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Coolness Averted posted:That's pretty cool, I got into those books in the mid to late 90s and I know there were a few threads dedicated to lets plays of them on SA The current one (which includes the recent books, whatever bonus adventures I can get hold of and the spin-offs) has been going since 2017.
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tanglewood1420 posted:Diplomacy is a great game. Despite its reputation, generally the players who tell the fewest lies do the best. It's very feasible to win a game without telling a single falsehood. It's much more about building relationships and trust and being good at convincing other players that their goals are aligned with yours than "let's ally, lol I stabbed you". Someone should run a PbP Diplomacy game again 
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FacePox posted:Has anyone here ever played diplomacy? I suck at it because I get too emotional and I'm bad at lying, but my friends seem to enjoy curb-stomping me. I tried a couple more after that but it never captured the schadenfreude of the original.
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Captain Walker posted:I have just joined Mycroft Holmes in his Fallout: New California Post Nuclear Political Simulation Game! I have never played a Political Simulation Game on the something awful dot com forums, and would appreciate advice on posting etiquette! How much RP is appropriate? Do we mimic a debate session or what? Hi! Thanks for joining! Feel free to RP as much as you want. Short form stories about your characters backstory, interactions with constituents or lobbyists, RP with other players, propose legislation, etc.
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Diplomacy is cool but the default Europe map is unbalanced in a way that means that experienced players are aware of which positions are stronger or weaker than others. For this reason I like games that use variant maps/nations to shake things up, especially if you have a mix of experienced and new players. Interestingly, 'Chromatic Diplomacy' (aka 'everyone is Italy') is not great for this purpose as while it's 'balanced' there's also not much in the way of differing relationships and it's also much harder to make an impactful move.
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happy Sex Number page everyone 
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bewilderment posted:Diplomacy is cool but the default Europe map is unbalanced in a way that means that experienced players are aware of which positions are stronger or weaker than others. The nations are unbalanced yes, but not overly so. As long as everyone in the game is of a similar experience level it doesn't matter too much. At high level play, the meta (I hate using that term, but in this case it is justified) ensures a pretty well balanced game. Italy is objectively in the worst position on a purely tactical level, but both the 2016 and 2017 world championships were won by the Italian player in the final.
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"An experienced player has a better chance f winning than an inexperienced one" sounds like a good thing for a game, not a bad one
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Diplomacy is a great example of a game that I think is really cool to listen to and think about but that I hate playing in practice. Just trips a bunch of my neuroses. I'm curious as to what alternative maps are considered good mostly because maps are cool.
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Countblanc posted:"An experienced player has a better chance f winning than an inexperienced one" sounds like a good thing for a game, not a bad one Edit: On the opposite side of things, a 4 hour game of snakes and ladders would be just as unfufilling to win or lose. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jun 19, 2021 |
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This may not be a story about TG in a traditional sense... But this is absolutely a TG story. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/o2z5pw/am_i_at_fault_for_drawing_a_sword_at_a_person_in/
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dwarf74 posted:This may not be a story about TG in a traditional sense... it's a TG story because like every one of those reddit posts, it's someone role playing
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Coolness Averted posted:Depends on the expectations and level of commitment required for a game. Most people aren't down for a 4-8 hour game that they lost in hour 1 because they didn't know the game well enough, but where that loss condition isn't triggered until late in the day. Winning under similar conditions also isn't very fulfilling for me. I feel like diplomacy would be a whole lot more rewarding if I hunkered down and read some strategy guides, much like chess.
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Does anyone have a link to that story - I think it might have been an imgur album? - about how infamously hard it is to get fantasy artists to draw the thing you've commissioned from them, and how they instead keep wanting to draw whatever titillates them? The one where it contrasts something to the effect of, the commission description of a female ranger in functional wilderness attire, and the actual art being basically softcore porn?
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I've played some Diplomacy. It's nominally a board game but it benefits from the current best practices for running a safe RPG table: that is, a pre-game warmup session in which everyone gets very firmly on the same page with regards to what is in or out of bounds; because as it is usually but not always played, it's about baldfaced lying to your fellow gamers, and that is a thing that may be embarrassing, offensive, and even friendship-ruining when it wasn't expected, or even sometimes when it was. "I had no idea you could lie to me so effectively" is a potentially fraught thing for a person to discover about another person they initially felt a lot of trust towards. But with a baseline of understanding well-established, it can be a very entertaining three to... twelve+ hours of gameplay 
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Leperflesh posted:"I had no idea you could lie to me so effectively" is a potentially fraught thing for a person to discover about another person they initially felt a lot of trust towards. I watched this happen to a couple while playing The Resistance, which is a much sillier game than Diplomacy.
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Kestral posted:Does anyone have a link to that story - I think it might have been an imgur album? - about how infamously hard it is to get fantasy artists to draw the thing you've commissioned from them, and how they instead keep wanting to draw whatever titillates them? The one where it contrasts something to the effect of, the commission description of a female ranger in functional wilderness attire, and the actual art being basically softcore porn?
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Nessus posted:I heard this story about Exalted artists. Some of the artists they hired would give them what they wanted, more or less, with, yes, some of their personal tastes intruding, but like that dude who really wanted to draw panda people drew so many they were just like "Ok fine, the panda people are canon, this is easier than arguing with him." Yeeeeep, it's widespread apparently. The post / article I'm thinking of had several examples from RPG books and, IIRC, Magic cards, where very reasonable, easy-to-follow instructions all turned into something the artist was clearly drawing with one hand.
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Nessus posted:I heard this story about Exalted artists. Some of the artists they hired would give them what they wanted, more or less, with, yes, some of their personal tastes intruding, but like that dude who really wanted to draw panda people drew so many they were just like "Ok fine, the panda people are canon, this is easier than arguing with him." Her name is Sophie Campbell, but yes.
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Was she also the one that really liked bald ladies with lip piercings? During 2nd edition it seemed like someone wanted to draw their personal character as each type of Exalt. Like there's a Lunar one that's going all chimera, there's an autochthonian one with a gear for a mohawk, etc.
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christ, i remember this article too but have no idea where to find it. the fact that it used magic cards as examples really makes me want to revisit it too to see if there was anything else shady going on
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Jun 20, 2021 08:18
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I really didn't like the bald people with all the piercings art. It was in that strange intersection of being both technically competent and viscerally unpleasant to look at.
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dwarf74 posted:This may not be a story about TG in a traditional sense... quote:Clearly the correct answer is to start carrying a Sakabatou so that you don't accidentally kill those weaker than you when you're forced to draw the blade. Alternatively you could study Chinese Kenpo, but only if you are confident you can become a Kaio
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theironjef posted:Was she also the one that really liked bald ladies with lip piercings? During 2nd edition it seemed like someone wanted to draw their personal character as each type of Exalt. Like there's a Lunar one that's going all chimera, there's an autochthonian one with a gear for a mohawk, etc. That's her. Bald ladies with lip piercings and literally everyone with nipple piercings.
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LatwPIAT posted:Her name is Sophie Campbell, but yes.
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Kestral posted:Yeeeeep, it's widespread apparently. The post / article I'm thinking of had several examples from RPG books and, IIRC, Magic cards, where very reasonable, easy-to-follow instructions all turned into something the artist was clearly drawing with one hand. Some people I've talked about this with before have noted it's actually easier to avoid this problem if you go with an artist who does in fact do lewd art in a more public manner, like how it's probably something along the lines that since they already do that stuff out in the open they are better able to separate out those impulses than artists who hide away any outer perversion in their art so it just leaks out anyways in a manner they can't really control, not a universal thing mind you but one that makes a certain amount of sense
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LatwPIAT posted:That's her. Bald ladies with lip piercings and literally everyone with nipple piercings. God, the loving nipple piercings. I once pulled out my copy of 1E Games of Divinity just to illustrate to my largely Exalted-ignorant partner that, yes, every humanoid demon in the Malfeas section has nipple piercings and it's incredibly off-putting -- maybe less so if it's just the artist's kink rather than an actual art-design decision, but still, ugh.
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Antivehicular posted:God, the loving nipple piercings. I once pulled out my copy of 1E Games of Divinity just to illustrate to my largely Exalted-ignorant partner that, yes, every humanoid demon in the Malfeas section has nipple piercings and it's incredibly off-putting -- maybe less so if it's just the artist's kink rather than an actual art-design decision, but still, ugh. One of my personal hangups because my brain is a gently caress is that piercings make me imagine stabbing pain in the corresponding area on my own body. The more sensitive the area is, the worse it affects me. Now that's a me problem and people are free to express themselves as they want etc. etc. but it makes reading Exalted books an... interesting experience.
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Leperflesh posted:I've played some Diplomacy. It's nominally a board game but it benefits from the current best practices for running a safe RPG table: that is, a pre-game warmup session in which everyone gets very firmly on the same page with regards to what is in or out of bounds; because as it is usually but not always played, it's about baldfaced lying to your fellow gamers, and that is a thing that may be embarrassing, offensive, and even friendship-ruining when it wasn't expected, or even sometimes when it was.
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drrockso20 posted:Some people I've talked about this with before have noted it's actually easier to avoid this problem if you go with an artist who does in fact do lewd art in a more public manner, like how it's probably something along the lines that since they already do that stuff out in the open they are better able to separate out those impulses than artists who hide away any outer perversion in their art so it just leaks out anyways in a manner they can't really control, not a universal thing mind you but one that makes a certain amount of sense porn artists have cheap commission prices
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I have the opposite problem where Sophie Campbell's artwork is the only Exalted artwork I remember beyond that awful Savant and Sorcerer cover. I can understand how it isn't a lot of people's cup of tea but just the fact that someone was doing something stylistically different was refreshing.
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Nonsense, there's also like twelve different drawings of the Roseblack in that scratch pen style, where she's making a face like she just ate a whole lemon.
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The Savant and Sorcerer cover is unironically good even with the cameltoe issue. Also wtf is this poo poo about bringing back the TSR?
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grassy gnoll posted:Nonsense, there's also like twelve different drawings of the Roseblack in that scratch pen style, where she's making a face like she just ate a whole lemon. Given how the Roseblack's day tends to go in all the times she's appeared in my Exalted campaigns, that face is 100% accurate.
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Plutonis posted:porn artists have cheap commission prices That's also true admittedly Plutonis posted:The Savant and Sorcerer cover is unironically good even with the cameltoe issue. Gygax's son bought the rights to use the TSR name and logo like a decade ago and is apparently now looking to do more with it
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Plutonis posted:The Savant and Sorcerer cover is unironically good even with the cameltoe issue.
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theironjef posted:Was she also the one that really liked bald ladies with lip piercings?
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Splicer posted:I like the way her waist is halfway up her ribcage. Really complements the way her shoulders are being wrenched off her body.
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I think a lot of Exalted art got the "the artist delivered so late and basically drew what they wanted to so we have no choice but to use it" syndrome.
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