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Skwirl posted:https://twitter.com/DCLBlogger/status/1407527416172449792?s=20 You should probably just share his comment in a screenshot if you don't think he would mind you sharing it.
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Silly Newbie posted:You should probably just share his comment in a screenshot if you don't think he would mind you sharing it. Phone posting, so it's a pain. And I wanted a link to the original idiot tweet.
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Splicer posted:Was going to say, mountains of madness is probably his best work. Elizabeth Bear's Shoggoths in Bloom  Neil Gaiman's A Study in Emerald is the best Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft crossover. In fact it may be the only good one.
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I've been reading Caitlín R Kiernan's collection of short stories, To Charles Fort, With Love, and they have some really great takes on the Mythos, without any of the, ah, usual Lovecrafty downsides, if anyone's keeping score.
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I think one of the great things about the lovecraft mythos is the fact that he described everything just enough to make your mind run with it and conjure its own horrors. Hate the fact that he was a bit of a racist bigot but the mythos has always been a big fascination of mine.
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A bit is a massive understatement
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It's a bit in the computer sense. He scored maximum racism.
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Splicer posted:It's a bit in the computer sense. He scored maximum racism. Influenced Robert E. Howard into having a stack overflow error and becoming marginally less racist (or so I've heard, can't confirm)
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Jun 23, 2021 11:31
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He was so racist his letters made a racism overflow error and made the guy who wrote Conan the barbarian become less racist. No poo poo, the guy was like “Jesus Christ, I hope I don’t sound like that” and backed off. E;fb
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Ugly In The Morning posted:He was so racist his letters made a racism overflow error and made the guy who wrote Conan the barbarian become less racist. I will always love Conan for its attempt at a Lovecraft demon where the thing's head was a big ol frog face in the middle of a swirling vortex of evil
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Influenced Robert E. Howard into having a stack overflow error and becoming marginally less racist (or so I've heard, can't confirm) Ugly In The Morning posted:He was so racist his letters made a racism overflow error and made the guy who wrote Conan the barbarian become less racist.
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Hard to say either were maximum racist given they lived literally contemporary with the Holocaust and lynchings and massacres in the US, and as far as we know neither directly participated in them. Also yeah, Lovecraft's entire family dying in asylums probably wasn't a hobby. He was raised as a girl by his aunts apparently.
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Jun 23, 2021 11:46
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I mean neither of those events really matter to this discussion as it doesn’t take maximum racism to kill people. It actually takes rather little if its systematic
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Khizan posted:The Shadow Over Innsmouth is his best, because the ending of it has the protagonist leaning that it's okay to be Welsh. I feel like I would probably describe it as the protagonist learns he is kind of weirdly horny about being Welsh and this overpowers his shame about it. Because being Welsh is basically a psychological disease as lovecraft understands it.
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Such Fun posted:I know there has been a push from residents for at least a decade to reduce the number of tourists. If the quarantine has shown a demonstrable improvement in water quality then that might help the resident’s argument. melancholy decay is the name of my ska band
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean neither of those events really matter to this discussion as it doesn’t take maximum racism to kill people. It actually takes rather little if its systematic I mean, it was an era where people were murdering minorities as a hobby, as a job, and as national policy. Some racist personal writings and themes in sci-fi/fantasy stories are a drop in the bucket in comparison. No one's being made any more racist by Lovecraft's writings. (as said, apparently we have evidence for being made less so) Also a funny thing is the subtext of most Lovecraft stories is that only educated upper-class white anglo men have the hubris to look into various cosmic terrors that all the 'lesser' races have the sense to leave the hell alone.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Influenced Robert E. Howard into having a stack overflow error and becoming marginally less racist (or so I've heard, can't confirm) I'm amazed they didn't get that with the works of Sax Rohmer... though I suppose they were a bit later than Lovecraft.
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Winter Tide is pretty legit (but an example of another author doing eldritch right)
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One time lovecraft was participating in an exquisite corpse style writing collab, and he wrote the character, having suddenly appeared on an alien planet, realizing that he was no longer human, but an alien and going gibberingly insane with horror at being a monster Robert E Howard picked it up next, and he had the character immediately come to his senses, realize that being an alien on the alien planet was cool and normal, and go on several pages of swashbuckling adventures with his new superpowers
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All this Lovecraft talk and nothing about the story where a guy goes to Congo and finds out his dad hosed an ape and therefor he is half-ape? And then he kills himself and the british Royal Anthropological Institute say ”that was weird, let’s not talk about this” and destroys all evidence. Fake edit: Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family was the title
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Thank goodness Ghost Leviathan is here to defend Lovecraft’s honorable racism because the Holocaust exists.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean, it was an era where people were murdering minorities as a hobby, as a job, and as national policy. Some racist personal writings and themes in sci-fi/fantasy stories are a drop in the bucket in comparison. No one's being made any more racist by Lovecraft's writings. (as said, apparently we have evidence for being made less so) I do remember thinking it was pretty funny that the protagonists of most of Lovecraft's stories are well todo WASPS who are told, usually by some swarthy foreigner not to touch/read/look at/acknowledge a thing and the response is always "Ha, I'm White" and then something terrible happens to them.
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joylessdivision posted:I do remember thinking it was pretty funny that the protagonists of most of Lovecraft's stories are well todo WASPS who are told, usually by some swarthy foreigner not to touch/read/look at/acknowledge a thing and the response is always "Ha, I'm White" and then something terrible happens to them. silly rustics
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goblin week posted:
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also a funny thing is the subtext of most Lovecraft stories is that only educated upper-class white anglo men have the hubris to look into various cosmic terrors that all the 'lesser' races have the sense to leave the hell alone. Well, either that or are having fun with. Cajun Cthulhu woo-hoo in the swamps, Polynesians gettin' freaky with fish people for mutual support, Witch House lady wandering the universe with her mutant rat buddy, etc etc. The wonder and glory forever seems pretty rad, as long as you're not an educated upper-class white anglo man whose brain will explode rather than admit the entire universe doesn't revolve around you.
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Gears is trashy dumb and usually fun, like why get so offended.
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Gats Akimbo posted:Well, either that or are having fun with. Cajun Cthulhu woo-hoo in the swamps, Polynesians gettin' freaky with fish people for mutual support, Witch House lady wandering the universe with her mutant rat buddy, etc etc. The wonder and glory forever seems pretty rad, as long as you're not an educated upper-class white anglo man whose brain will explode rather than admit the entire universe doesn't revolve around you. Yeah there is a very strong "oh god the poors are disgusting and I am definitely, definitely not into their poo poo, no, why do I keep writing stories where the upper class protagonist comes to revel in their terrible ways" vibe to his writing, it's great.
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Cliffy really shouldn’t be replying to every single person, but he was going after Notch and I don’t want to discourage that
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My favourite Lovecraft story is the Apologicon. Set 80 years in the future, a young man obsessed with tales of the macabre tries desperately to convince his dinner party guests that his favourite author wasn't racist. To his horror, the spirit of the author shows up as a late addition, and announces a poetry reading.
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christmas boots posted:Cliffy really shouldn’t be replying to every single person, but he was going after Notch and I don’t want to discourage that Ah, an Avenatti situation [
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah there is a very strong "oh god the poors are disgusting and I am definitely, definitely not into their poo poo, no, why do I keep writing stories where the upper class protagonist comes to revel in their terrible ways" vibe to his writing, it's great. So many of Lovecraft's villains are so obviously living their best and happiest lives. Joseph Curwen the necromancer; Nyarlathotep is a fabulous bitch every time he shows up; the brain-stealing guys in The Whisperer in Darkness just want to take you on a Big Space Adventure; aaa the horror yeah sure get out the way Howard let everyone else party.
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DreadUnknown posted:Gears is trashy dumb and usually fun, like why get so offended. It is very rude to say to somebody "that thing worked hard to make sucks and has always sucked, especially when you made it" and it's always a specific brand of internet brokebrain that says poo poo like that Cliffy clocked that guy 100% he just shouldn't have said it out loud
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christmas boots posted:Cliffy really shouldn’t be replying to every single person, but he was going after Notch and I don’t want to discourage that I just feel like it's probably not the best reply to write when the rest of Notch's replies are people posting "trans rights"
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