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90s Cringe Rock posted:They did say they deliberately designed the minis to be fiddly and expensive to produce. Why would you do that? That's just begging for failure.
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Kwyndig posted:Why would you do that? That's just begging for failure. The whole kickstarter is like that. Playability? Ease of use? Clear and concise? BAH those are for plebs. Our game is obscure.
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They fell into the trap a lot of game designers fall into, where they thought "more complexity = better gameplay." But that thought process extended into actual usability issues and labor costs for paint & construction (Which doesn't matter if you have a successful Kickstarter, right?!  )If they decide to sell the minis separately from the gameboard, it'd probably be a way better idea to just completely scrap this KS and do a Reaper Bones style campaign with tons of minis. They certainly could just sell these they have done, but trying to estimate the scale of the prototypes in their video, (1:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCReC6wu1xs&t=93s) they look a bit too big to be used alongside regular D&D or Warhammer mini's, unless you consider them bosses or something. They'd probably have to go back and get Blizzard's approval all over again though, which might not go as smoothly as the first time. Desfore fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 28, 2021 |
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Kwyndig posted:Why would you do that? That's just begging for failure. This is the campaign that listed "Hard to tell what is going on" as a positive feature, I think we're well beyond asking why
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I'd say the bigger issue is the $500 minimum to back. There's gaming table companies that have cheaper minimum buy ins. If they had somehow managed to have a $200 or, especially, a $100 base version and then had a bunch of add ons there's a chance this thing could have went the distance. Starting at $500 really limits you to a select group of whales willing to drop half a grand on an untested product.
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There was some discussion pages back about what makes a good KS promo. It's this. Do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfJo6iw9f0  They're also offering this nonsense as addons   https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cze/epic-spell-wars-of-the-battle-wizards-annihilageddon-2 It's so dumb. I love it.
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Infinitum posted:There was some discussion pages back about what makes a good KS promo. This to me is still Cryptozoic's best series. Load me up on all this dumb poo poo.
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I really liked the original Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards: Battle at Mt. Skullzfire, that's pretty tempting. NOVA looks pretty cool, anyone have any experience with Lumen as a system? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thegilaboy/nova-2 Echophonic fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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Far Off Games just dropped their trailer for Arydia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvOMibTOz_Y Looks interesting from the promo. Same designer+company who made Xia Customisable minis is a cool idea.
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Infinitum posted:Far Off Games just dropped their trailer for Arydia The ship cargo puzzling was the only good part of Xia. It had good feel, but the gameplay was just so dull and random.
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I thought the ship building stuff was cool, and I appreciated how well the "NPCs" were integrated and implemented. But I agree it was otherwise just not terribly exciting to play. I never tried the expansion which was supposed to add more to the experience, though.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/silvervinepublishing/floria-the-verdant-way-indie-japanese-trpg-translation Just 3 days left to get some early discounts and early access to Floria! The campaign's been absolutely incredible so far. I'm excited for people to get a hold of it and start playing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p72yzz363E
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Infinitum posted:There was some discussion pages back about what makes a good KS promo. Is this game any good? I'm not really into crude humour but the artwork is slick and I'd want the playmat so it would end up pretty pricey for a card game...
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CODChimera posted:Is this game any good? I'm not really into crude humour but the artwork is slick and I'd want the playmat so it would end up pretty pricey for a card game... Yeah, Epic Spell Wars is a lot of fun. The basic gist is that every player is a battle wizard who uses their turn to cast HORRIBLE SPELLS on their enemies by combining cards from their hand. Spells have multiple components (beginners, middle parts and enders) and there's rules on how you can combine different types of components. When you're done, you make fun combinations like MELVYN'S BAFFLING MULTI-DIMENSIONAL MEAT-TORNADO which might do D12 damage to the players on your either side, and force them to discard cards as they get sucked into the meat vortex. Every component has its own rules so you end up with drastically different spells. Whoever is the last wizard standing wins a point, whoever is the first to n points wins the games. Rounds are very fast and the games get extremely silly very quickly, especially if everyone leans into the overpowered fantasy WMD wizard theme hard. If you're looking for a very serious euro game, Epic Spell Wars very much isn't that, but then it was probably 100% obvious from the name and art style alone. E: Oh looks like this is a different game set in the same universe. Boy is my face red, and now I want to know if it's good as well. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:E: Oh looks like this is a different game set in the same universe. Boy is my face red, and now I want to know if it's good as well. The KS page says it’s compatible with the original, so probably basically the same game with new cards and a new gimmick or three.
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It seems like one of the things they did was to remove the time you spend inactive and not playing the game when your wizard dies, so that’s a good improvement on the original
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I wanna say one of the expansions allowed you to gently caress with the other weeezards when you were dead, but it has been so goddamn long since I have played...
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Getsuya posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/silvervinepublishing/floria-the-verdant-way-indie-japanese-trpg-translation I have been avidly following the updates, this looks really cool.
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CODChimera posted:Is this game any good? I'm not really into crude humour but the artwork is slick and I'd want the playmat so it would end up pretty pricey for a card game... This looks to be a Spell Wars version of the general Cryptozoic Deck Building system, used for various other settings like LOTR, Rick and Morty, Street Fighter, DC Comics, etc. The twist in this one seems to be more direct attacks against other players rather than just generally buffing your own deck to get the most VP at the end. Can't speak for how good it is, but I've played the Street Fighter version a few times and generally have fun with it, just don't expect it to be at all balanced.
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IDW’s Ghostbusters & Men in Black crossover board game ‘Ghostbusters x Men In Black: Ecto-Terrestrial Invasion’ is up for preorder on Backerkit. I missed the initial round completely apparently, having heard nothing about it before now. It’s an eye-watering $125, with another $29 for US shipping, but there’s a ton of minis and a fair few preorder exclusive characters. 
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I'm glad I'm not particularly attached to either franchise because I'd be annoyed at seeing a game about them done in that art style.
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Nope, and they remain insanely cagey about it too. All they'll say is "It's slated to arrive in homes late summer" and "We're sure it will and are already on top of shipping concerns thanks for asking" and stuff. Like, just so much less believable than all the other projects I've backed recently that are saying "Hey there's shipping setbacks obviously and we'll do what we can and keep you up to date on it."
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Games like those are the most fun when they have a large variety of bosses and objectives. 3 bosses just doesn’t strike me as particularly varied especially for a one-shot crowdfunded mini-game.
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If IDW was still going all-in on their "AUGS" game system that they started with TMNT and Batman TAS before completely pulling the plug AND the Ghostbusters/MIB game was a proper KS campaign with a billion stretch goals and extra minis, maybe I would have given it a look. However, for that price (very little value, mini-wise) and with all the uncertainty surrounding IDW's board game prospects (AKA, they are dropping all development altogether), it's just not worth it.
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Infinitum posted:Also I wanted to post this Hi, it's me the Warcraft fan who is going to buy Pandemic Warcraft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FEFspIwUGA
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Infinitum posted:Hi, it's me the Warcraft fan who is going to buy Pandemic Warcraft. Ok, but Pandemic is a really solid framework that has shown its ability to be reskinned to other genres pretty easily. Anything where you can experience sudden appearances of a threat which can spread along predictable paths if not dealt with works well on the Pandemic system. Even if this isn't your thing, it's at least not a terrible idea given the proven track record of other Pandemic hacks
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They should have made it about the corrupted blood people got in Zul'Gurub and spread to the general populace. That was a literal digital pandemic and was even studded by the CDC.
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It's on Gamefound, not kickstarter, but I'm curious if anyone has comments on Wild Assent https://gamefound.com/projects/lazy-squire-games/wild-assent-lavon-rising#/ I'm a sucker for mini games that have decent minis so I'm eyeing this one.
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InternetJunky posted:It's on Gamefound, not kickstarter, but I'm curious if anyone has comments on Wild Assent https://gamefound.com/projects/lazy-squire-games/wild-assent-lavon-rising#/ It looks really uncreative, simplistic, and dull. The camp phase in particular seems like a mess. I'm interested in a take on the monster hunting genre that's not single big boss fights all the time and plays more quickly than the others on the market, but Wild Assent doesn't look like it has anything like the depth or variety that the competition does. And that's including Kingdom Death: Monster, a game where the combat starts out literally just moving a little bit and rolling randomly. Wild Assent does have a bit more going on to start with...the problem is, not much. And it doesn't escalate very much from there, whereas KD:M definitely does. (And I don't even like KD:M really. Much more looking forward to things like Oathsworn: Into the Deepwoods, Aeon Trespass: Odyssey, and Primal: The Awakening.)
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Kaza42 posted:Ok, but Pandemic is a really solid framework that has shown its ability to be reskinned to other genres pretty easily. Anything where you can experience sudden appearances of a threat which can spread along predictable paths if not dealt with works well on the Pandemic system. Even if this isn't your thing, it's at least not a terrible idea given the proven track record of other Pandemic hacks What if pandemic but all the pieces are really tall and everything is matte black? InternetJunky posted:It's on Gamefound, not kickstarter, but I'm curious if anyone has comments on Wild Assent https://gamefound.com/projects/lazy-squire-games/wild-assent-lavon-rising#/ The minis look cool, but like the previous poster said the gameplay just doesn’t look that engaging. I was a lot more pumped about their other game, Stormsunder. Vidmaster fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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I've got a Kickstarter launching in September and the preview link was just approved today, so I figured it would be a good time to make my first post about it here. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/580070528/the-red-burnoose-algeria-1857 The game is called The Red Burnoose: Algeria 1857. Its designed by Roberta Taylor and myself. In the game you play as a coalition of Kabyle villages in Algeria trying to stave off multiple French armies. The game's primary mechanic is that of a deckbuilder, but it also uses some area control and dice rolling to battle the French. The game is designed to serve as an intro to wargaming for the curious, but also fit for people who just want to play a deckbuilder. We tried to do some interesting things with the game as well. We thought about how we could incorporate feminist principles into wargame design and incorporated that into this game through several of the people who show up in the game. It also comes out in the setting, since the game's main protagonist, Fatma N'Soumer, has been called the Joan of Arc of Algeria before and many women participated in these battles as well. We also wanted to be sure the game was anticolonialist, and as such it is a coop for 1 to 4 players where you can only play as the Kabyles. The French are run by an automa deck. I hope you'll like the Kickstarter campaign to be notified when it launches. I'm happy to answer questions and will be posting more when we come up on our September launch. 
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JazzFlight posted:If IDW was still going all-in on their "AUGS" game system that they started with TMNT and Batman TAS before completely pulling the plug AND the Ghostbusters/MIB game was a proper KS campaign with a billion stretch goals and extra minis, maybe I would have given it a look. However, for that price (very little value, mini-wise) and with all the uncertainty surrounding IDW's board game prospects (AKA, they are dropping all development altogether), it's just not worth it. Oh, they're not doing any more AUGS games? That's a bit of a blessing and a curse, I already don't have room for the Batman one.
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Echophonic posted:Oh, they're not doing any more AUGS games? That's a bit of a blessing and a curse, I already don't have room for the Batman one. They also ended the TMNT comics and are probably getting out of board games. I just hope I receive the Batman: TAS one in the next few months so I can at least rest easy knowing that it was fulfilled safely. It looks like a real labor of love with a bazillion characters and scenarios.
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nesbit37 posted:We thought about how we could incorporate feminist principles into wargame design and incorporated that into this game through several of the people who show up in the game. "Not ignoring the contributions of women" is good. What other ideas for incorporating feminist principles into a wargame did you come up with, but reject for this particular game?
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Vidmaster posted:What if pandemic but all the pieces are really tall and everything is matte black? I went out of my way looking at gameplay vids for Wild Assent looking for reasons to back it as I really enjoy Monster Hunter (the vidya game). I just couldn't talk myself into it, and I'm normally pretty loose with my KS money. I'd give it a pass.
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homullus posted:"Not ignoring the contributions of women" is good. What other ideas for incorporating feminist principles into a wargame did you come up with, but reject for this particular game? We also explored intersectionality which made it into the game with the elderly and the young, which are also often ignored in this genre. We didn't want to just have these groups in the game but also demonstrate how they contributed to the conflict which comes out in the actions their cards and pieces can take. In the end it is still a wargame, and I wouldn't say we rejected any particular principles as much as we could only show so much. Particularly as a historical game and we were not willing to add things that were not part of the conflict. Part of the effort with this game was coming off a book chapter I wrote last year in this text: https://www.routledge.com/Feminist-...k/9781032082424
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nesbit37 posted:We also explored intersectionality which made it into the game with the elderly and the young, which are also often ignored in this genre. We didn't want to just have these groups in the game but also demonstrate how they contributed to the conflict which comes out in the actions their cards and pieces can take. In the end it is still a wargame, and I wouldn't say we rejected any particular principles as much as we could only show so much. Particularly as a historical game and we were not willing to add things that were not part of the conflict. Part of the effort with this game was coming off a book chapter I wrote last year in this text: Yeah, good -- I did indeed mean "reject" in the sense of "this isn't right for this topic and this design" rather than a rejection of the principle itself. Extra thanks for the book link, that is very much the kind of thing I like to read.
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