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MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Iirc the host of In Our Time is literally a Lord so yeah

Although definitely listen to the episode where someone brings a chromatography set into the studio to demonstrate what it looks like...on a radio show lol

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Atrocious Joe posted:

I love listening to In Our Time and yelling at the conservative British academics. Its really easy to find episodes where the French Revolution is referred to as a horrific event, and how great it is that the UK avoided a revolution and succeeded with gradual reforms.

In the past few years they've tried to expand their guest list to have some more perspectives. I still would recommend it, because in general it gives you an idea of some of the different academic disputes on certain topics. Also the science episodes tend to be good as well.

I did not even bother with the Cultural Revolution episode

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


the Fall of Rome podcast guy (patrick wyman) has a phd and it shows in the good way

I dunno if he is an actual Marxist but he squares the material conditions and socio-economic circumstances of the Roman Empire during it's late stages as fundamental to understand the whole thing. The migrations, the plagues, the concentration of capital in the hands of patricians who become ever-so-more insular and unwilling to contribute with the imperial maintenance, who suddenly see themselves lacking resources provided by the empire (because turns out to get the fancy eastern products you want in northern Gaul you need to pay for roads in Pontus)... it's good stuff

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

dead gay comedy forums posted:

the Fall of Rome podcast guy (patrick wyman) has a phd and it shows in the good way

I dunno if he is an actual Marxist but he squares the material conditions and socio-economic circumstances of the Roman Empire during it's late stages as fundamental to understand the whole thing. The migrations, the plagues, the concentration of capital in the hands of patricians who become ever-so-more insular and unwilling to contribute with the imperial maintenance, who suddenly see themselves lacking resources provided by the empire (because turns out to get the fancy eastern products you want in northern Gaul you need to pay for roads in Pontus)... it's good stuff

i'll check it out, thanks for the rec. real dearth of historical materialist stuff out there (at least in audio form)

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

dead gay comedy forums posted:

the Fall of Rome podcast guy (patrick wyman) has a phd and it shows in the good way

I dunno if he is an actual Marxist but he squares the material conditions and socio-economic circumstances of the Roman Empire during it's late stages as fundamental to understand the whole thing. The migrations, the plagues, the concentration of capital in the hands of patricians who become ever-so-more insular and unwilling to contribute with the imperial maintenance, who suddenly see themselves lacking resources provided by the empire (because turns out to get the fancy eastern products you want in northern Gaul you need to pay for roads in Pontus)... it's good stuff

Parenti wrote a book adjacent to this topic that is very good.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Parenti wrote a book adjacent to this topic that is very good.

seconding Parenti's "The Assassination of Julius Caesar: A People's History of Rome" as being an extremely fun read

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

dead gay comedy forums posted:

the Fall of Rome podcast guy (patrick wyman) has a phd and it shows in the good way

I dunno if he is an actual Marxist but he squares the material conditions and socio-economic circumstances of the Roman Empire during it's late stages as fundamental to understand the whole thing. The migrations, the plagues, the concentration of capital in the hands of patricians who become ever-so-more insular and unwilling to contribute with the imperial maintenance, who suddenly see themselves lacking resources provided by the empire (because turns out to get the fancy eastern products you want in northern Gaul you need to pay for roads in Pontus)... it's good stuff

he also makes YouTube versions with maps and clips from related films that add another layer

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

genericnick posted:

I think the correct way to pay attention to the English Civil War is "don't".

Watch Wolfwalkers for an entertaining animated portrayal of Oliver Cromwell who is even more obsessed with killing wolves than Catholics

Also the Diggers were pretty cool

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
Is Thomas Piketty worth checking out? Specifically his books Capital in the 21st Century and Capital And Ideology?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

no and he never read marx

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The wrong side won and the wrong side lost, that's all I need to know.

Napoleonic Wars too

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Demon Semen posted:

Is Thomas Piketty worth checking out? Specifically his books Capital in the 21st Century and Capital And Ideology?

I never read it, but the historic data collection part is supposed to be pretty good if that's your thing. Don't think he has any great explanatory models, really.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Thomas piketty's solution to alienation and the tendency of the rate of profit to decline, is to institute higher taxes

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
Thomas Piketty saying "Marx had no data" is the clearest indication that he'd never even tried to read Capital lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
piketty lol.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

John Charity Spring posted:

Thomas Piketty saying "Marx had no data" is the clearest indication that he'd never even tried to read Capital lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Rhizzone_Txt/status/830500907024420864

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That's been my official position for years now mostly because its funny but also secretly because it's correct

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

mcclay posted:

make the stalinst professor a C-Spam mod

or admin

or site owner

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Larry Parrish posted:

That's been my official position for years now mostly because its funny but also secretly because it's correct

Wow, how do you justify Stalin invading Hungary you drat Tankie???

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

euphronius posted:

I did not even bother with the Cultural Revolution episode

it's pretty funny. iirc one of the guests says that every single woman who went to the countryside was forced into sex work.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

exmarx posted:

it's pretty funny. iirc one of the guests says that every single woman who went to the countryside was forced into sex work.

Lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
as in each individual woman or every unmarried woman

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

exmarx posted:

it's pretty funny. iirc one of the guests says that every single woman who went to the countryside was forced into sex work.

the gpcr deserves a lot of poo poo but that dont seem correct

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Trabisnikof posted:

Wow, how do you justify Stalin invading Hungary you drat Tankie???

I've always wanted to do a bit of acting constantly mad at "tankies" while also being a hardcore Stalinist

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

mila kunis posted:

the gpcr deserves a lot of poo poo but that dont seem correct

cultural revolution was very good

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

indigi posted:

I can’t deal with listening to English people speak at length anymore, idk why but I’ve developed some sort of revulsion to their accents

That's a perfectly rational defensive reflex.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Top City Homo posted:

cultural revolution was very good

it had some tangentially good effects with rural people seeing some of their needs attended to and the sharpening effect of the next generation of leaders experiencing the countryside (for eg, xi) deepening their knowledge of the country and how it worked and allowing them to take it to where it is now, but it also wrecked china's productive forces and was a mini civil war with brigades fighting the PLA and each other and it set the PRC back for a decade.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

What's a good book on the cultural revolution?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

three body problem ?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
ten years of madness was a decent book of first hand accounts that was assigned in one of my Chinese history classes

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat

one day

Demon_Corsair
Mar 22, 2004

Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.
Does anyone still have the reading list that used to be in the last thread?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

mila kunis posted:

it had some tangentially good effects with rural people seeing some of their needs attended to and the sharpening effect of the next generation of leaders experiencing the countryside (for eg, xi) deepening their knowledge of the country and how it worked and allowing them to take it to where it is now,

its got rid of the countryside hating trots (lil emperors) and provided a sense of self determination for the majority of the country. That's good.

quote:

but it also wrecked china's productive forces and was a mini civil war with brigades fighting the PLA and each other and it set the PRC back for a decade.

the second civil war is what is called a secondary contradiction and its perfectly fine

these things happen

Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 22:57 on Jun 29, 2021

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Demon_Corsair posted:

Does anyone still have the reading list that used to be in the last thread?

this one?

Top City Homo posted:

these things happen

I feel like there may be sample size issues

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Demon_Corsair posted:

Does anyone still have the reading list that used to be in the last thread?

just read althusser, alain badiou, the classics in the reading list and Heidegger. Heidegger although an idiot nazi in his older life still is an outstanding philosopher and is basically the yang of Marx writing about the same poo poo: why modernity sucks

I am also adding Maurice Cornforth https://www.marxists.org/archive/cornforth/index.htm

because he is a great popularizer of dialectical materialism and pops Popper right in his whore mouth about the "open society" trash

https://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/

This is a giant in the Soviet Union who added to Theory as much as Stalin

and Joseph Dietzgen https://www.marxists.org/archive/dietzgen/index.htm

the OG who lived alongside Marx and of whom Marx said "this dude understands Dialectical Materialism" (direct quote)

Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 23:30 on Jun 29, 2021

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


i love the security theatre and surveillance meant to code that this is bad, actually

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

V. Illych L. posted:

i love the security theatre and surveillance meant to code that this is bad, actually

that is not the intent at all

its supposed to be something called "people's punk" a sort of socialist realism and upside down cyberpunk where technology serves humanity

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Centrist Committee posted:

he also makes YouTube versions with maps and clips from related films that add another layer

where are these I couldn't find them

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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Raskolnikov38 posted:

please for the love of my sanity stop listening to history podcasts by lay morons and pick something from this list that says it’s made by actual academics

https://networks.h-net.org/node/84048/pages/102491/academic-podcast-roundup

e: oh ffs Duncan doesn’t even have a goddamn BA in history aaaaaaaaaa

lol, you know revolutions is on that list, right?

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