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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

shame on an IGA posted:

I want this man's gentle voice in my ears forever

He seems like the only general aviation journalist left. He makes very good videos and talk a lot of sense

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monkeytennis
Apr 26, 2007


Toilet Rascal

meltie posted:

Went to see the AN-225 land at Brize, and they bowled us a dummy - a few Voyagers took off and landed to demonstrate the active runway direction so all the locals beetled over to the fields off the east end of the runway to see it land overhead.

Five minutes later the AN-225 came in high, went south of the airport, turned on a wingtip and landed in the other direction where no-one was expecting to see it. Grr.


Captain Antonov has just posted his video of the trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCpaV2I17E

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

monkeytennis posted:

Captain Antonov has just posted his video of the trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCpaV2I17E

Well that's pretty flipping cool. Thank you :)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


monkeytennis posted:

Captain Antonov has just posted his video of the trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCpaV2I17E

How have we missed this channel all this time?!

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




That guy must have the absolute best stories to tell if you find him at a bar.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

shame on an IGA posted:

I want this man's gentle voice in my ears forever

he's the best

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



shame on an IGA posted:

I want this man's gentle voice in my ears forever

I was lulled to slumber and awakened when my laptop lid slapped over onto my forehead.

He's the Bob Ross of GA engines

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
I could've sworn snuff films were against YouTube's TOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVmB2cAqGi4

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

PainterofCrap posted:

I was lulled to slumber and awakened when my laptop lid slapped over onto my forehead.

He's the Bob Ross of GA engines

Yeah, him and that adorable dude at Mentour Aviation are my go tos

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
:cripes:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-777x-certification-issues/

An unnamed FAA source is also quoted, who states that “there’s a general feeling that Boeing has kind of lost a step,” referring to Boeing’s reputation for excellence in the past, and that “the days of Boeing being able to say to the FAA ‘just trust us’ are long gone.”

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Got another crazy passenger:

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/flight-leaving-lax-interrupted-after-passenger-opens-door-jumps-onto-tarmac

Honestly, does the US have some sort of official record keeping for this?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

HookedOnChthonics posted:

something fun ive never heard of before, from the UFO thread--britain's homegrown attempt at a flying saucer:

https://reuters.screenocean.com/record/434045



And it looks like the UFO hovers inside the airship hanger at Cardigan.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Nebakenezzer posted:

Got another crazy passenger:

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/flight-leaving-lax-interrupted-after-passenger-opens-door-jumps-onto-tarmac

Honestly, does the US have some sort of official record keeping for this?

Jeez E170s aren’t *that* bad!!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



BIG HEADLINE posted:

:cripes:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-777x-certification-issues/

An unnamed FAA source is also quoted, who states that “there’s a general feeling that Boeing has kind of lost a step,” referring to Boeing’s reputation for excellence in the past, and that “the days of Boeing being able to say to the FAA ‘just trust us’ are long gone.”

quote:

The FAA cited a long list of concerns, the most significant of which involved a December 8, 2020, test flight. During this, the plane experienced an “uncommanded pitch event,” meaning the nose of the aircraft pitched upward or downward without input from the pilots.

A Boeing product with uncommanded pitch changes? :monocle:

Edit:vvvvvvvvv :thurman:

Midjack fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 27, 2021

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


BIG HEADLINE posted:

:cripes:

“there’s a general feeling that Boeing has kind of lost a step,”

if Boeing has lost a stepladder I know where to look

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

FuturePastNow posted:

if Boeing has lost a stepladder I know where to look

:iceburn:

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

BIG HEADLINE posted:

:cripes:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-777x-certification-issues/

An unnamed FAA source is also quoted, who states that “there’s a general feeling that Boeing has kind of lost a step,” referring to Boeing’s reputation for excellence in the past, and that “the days of Boeing being able to say to the FAA ‘just trust us’ are long gone.”

Good.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

BIG HEADLINE posted:

:cripes:

https://onemileatatime.com/news/boeing-777x-certification-issues/

An unnamed FAA source is also quoted, who states that “there’s a general feeling that Boeing has kind of lost a step,” referring to Boeing’s reputation for excellence in the past, and that “the days of Boeing being able to say to the FAA ‘just trust us’ are long gone.”

I only realized this in hindsight because I don't follow Boeing or airplane manufacturing that closely but this has been coming and evident for years. Boeing spun off every in house manufacturing division and engineering division to pump quarterly stock earnings and now they've become basically an aircraft assembler. The c-suite wrecked that company

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Arson Daily posted:

I only realized this in hindsight because I don't follow Boeing or airplane manufacturing that closely but this has been coming and evident for years. Boeing spun off every in house manufacturing division and engineering division to pump quarterly stock earnings and now they've become basically an aircraft assembler. The c-suite wrecked that company

A true American success story.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Arson Daily posted:

I only realized this in hindsight because I don't follow Boeing or airplane manufacturing that closely but this has been coming and evident for years. Boeing spun off every in house manufacturing division and engineering division to pump quarterly stock earnings and now they've become basically an aircraft assembler. The c-suite wrecked that company

They're basically a marketing team at this point, their core competencies have all been demolished in the name of margins.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



rscott posted:

They're basically a marketing team at this point, their core competencies have all been demolished in the name of margins.

As a corporate cog since 1984: Such is the way of corporate America today. Only the profit margins of the next quarter matter. All else can and will be sacrificed.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

e.pilot posted:

A true American success story.

That should be the subtitle of a McDonnell-Douglas documentary covering 1990-present

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



hobbesmaster posted:

That should be the subtitle of a McDonnell-Douglas documentary covering 1990-present

Boeing will rebrand as McDonnell-Douglas in a futile attempt to escape their recent embarrassment.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

hobbesmaster posted:

That should be the subtitle of a McDonnell-Douglas documentary covering 1990-present

"Winning by Failing: How We Managed to 'Dig Up, Stupid!'"

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Zero One posted:

Speaking of squwaking 7500, jump to 47:30 in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFYhdX1F578

And just keep listening, he's got some doozies to tell.


LimaBiker posted:

That guy must have the absolute best stories to tell if you find him at a bar.

And if you can't find him, read this book about all the poo poo people got into in ex-Red Army IL-76s and the like,

https://smile.amazon.com/Outlaws-Inc-Market-Dangerous-Smugglers-ebook/dp/B005ERL4G8/

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


rscott posted:

They're basically a marketing team at this point, their core competencies have all been demolished in the name of margins.

I mean, it's the logical conclusion of capitalism

Be good at something
Gain reputation and $
Use $ to get someone else to do work (ie subcontract)
Leverage reputation to justify margin
Need to show $ growth
Cut staff (and associated costs) because someone else is doing the work now
Quality falls, reputation only carries on for so long
Superseded by new company that's good at thing
Repeat

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

The Sky Thief
How did Beebo Russell — a goofy, God-fearing baggage handler — steal a passenger plane from the Seattle-Tacoma airport and end up alone in a cockpit, with no plan to come down?

The stolen airplane began rolling forward under its own power, with no one in the cockpit. The twin engines of the Horizon Air Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 aircraft had been set to idle. But without anyone riding the brakes, the 13-foot propellers began pushing the plane slowly toward the runways of Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

The thief, Richard “Beebo” Russell, had just disconnected the tow bar of a tug vehicle he’d used to pivot the plane out of its parking spot. In a frantic, seven-second dash, the husky 28-year-old abandoned the truck and sprinted to the lowered passenger-entry door. He scrambled into the fuselage and hoisted up the hatch before flinging himself into the captain’s seat.


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/beebo-russell-seattle-plane-theft-true-story-1187023/

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

simplefish posted:

I mean, it's the logical conclusion of capitalism

Be good at something
Gain reputation and $
Use $ to get someone else to do work (ie subcontract)
Leverage reputation to justify margin
Need to show $ growth
Cut staff (and associated costs) because someone else is doing the work now
Quality falls, reputation only carries on for so long
Superseded by new company that's good at thing
Repeat

If anything you are being charitable. MD/Boeing is what happens when there is just enough regulation to keep the company from eating all their competitors (bring the most wealth to the officers and owners through monopoly) so instead the officers funnel their efforts into easy grift.

Carnegie was likely a trillionaire in today’s dollars and would have kept going if he could.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

rscott posted:

They're basically a marketing team at this point, their core competencies have all been demolished in the name of margins.

Listen, pal, this was the very definition of success like 20 years ago

I'm not even joking, being a brand that can collect rent, outsource all functions, and control suppliers by starving them into bankruptcy while vaguely promising a fat contract at some future date, and being composed of nothing but a C-suite is the 2000 business ideal

Speaking of Boeing and breaking things, about a million years ago in 2018 a cargo 747 in Halifax overshot the runway and wrote itself off. The report on the crash just came out:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...id=winp1taskbar

Spoiler: fatigue

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
So someone in the thread recently reminded me of the "Drowned Man" story and perhaps the same person mentioned the "Doctor Killer" Bonanza so I decided to try and adapt it (I'm sure someone else has in the past and probably did it way better), and kept it on the shelf for about a week now:

A doctor was polishing his Bonanza. He'd just gotten his PPL.

A grizzled, seasoned pilot came by to congratulate him. "You've gotta be careful with those things, y'know. It's a lot of airplane in a really small package."

The doctor smiled smugly and replied, "it's okay, I'm a doctor. I handle life and death situations every day, and I've got surgeon's hands, so I think I can handle a plane."

The veteran pilot sighed, threw up his hands in idle frustration, shook his head, and walked off.

Then a fuel truck came by, and the driver welcomed the new pilot to the field. Again, he cautioned him about the unforgiving nature and reputation of the Bonanza.

The doctor was more terse with the fuel guy, as he saw him as a *servant* and not a peer. "I'm a doctor *and* a fully licensed pilot. I think I know what I'm doing."

The fuel guy laughed heartily and drove off.

Finally an aircraft mechanic clad in dirty coveralls comes along and quietly watches the guy sloppily pre-flighting his plane. The doctor sees him open his mouth to say something and gives him a horrible death stare.

"Listen, buddy. I've had half the fuckin' airfield come by today and try to tell me what *I* need to do with *my* plane. I'm a loving DOCTOR, I graduated top of my class from Harvard Medical School. I've got more professional degrees than you have years out of diapers. So whatever you're gonna say, I don't wanna hear it. Now gently caress OFF, I wanna get some flight hours in today."

The mechanic shrugs and walks back towards the hangar. Later on that day the field hears that the doctor's plane crashed and he was killed. Inexplicably, the man goes to Heaven and is told by St. Peter at the gates that God wants to see him immediately. As he enters the Heavenly Hall, he's greeted by an ethereal figure wearing coveralls and covered in all manners of grease working on the nicest Beechcraft Model 18 you've ever seen. This wasn't the God he was expecting, but he still had things he'd wanted to do in his life, so he decided he'd give his Creator a piece of his mind. As the figure turned to face him, he's not dumbstruck by the visage of his Creator, but rather, that of the aircraft mechanic from earlier.

"You know, you really shouldn't be here," He said. "I sent you a veteran pilot, a fuel guy, and actually came down to Earth Myself in My preferred form to warn you to be careful with that plane."

Without missing a beat, the doctor roared, "AND I FUCKIN' TOLD *YOU* I'M A FUCKIN' *DOCTOR* AND DIDN'T NEED ANY FUCKIN' ADVICE FROM SOME FUCKIN' GREASE MONKEY! I WENT TO *HARVARD*!"

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jun 29, 2021

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

A nice article but the writer really seems to think that a locked door is the solution to this happening again.

Anyone who had a car break-in can tell you that a locked door won't stop a determined thief. And also it would have been likely that this guy would have been given keys because part of his job included going onto flight decks to help with towing.

The other element of this gone unmentioned is that if the guy had called up the tower and asked for a VFR departure no one might have realized the plane was stolen until after it crashed.

TBH I'm not sure what more can be done to stop a determined insider. I guess you could password protect the ignition of all planes and require some multofactor authentication to start them but you'd still need to give a ton of people access to start it anyway.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

Zero One posted:

A nice article but the writer really seems to think that a locked door is the solution to this happening again.


The other element of this gone unmentioned is that if the guy had called up the tower and asked for a VFR departure no one might have realized the plane was stolen until after it crashed.

Seattle doesn't really see that many VFR departures (it's probably a single digit number per day), and a Q400 requesting a VFR clearance from that particular spot on the airport would have raised some eyebrows, since that area is almost exclusively used by Horizon to park operational spares during the day, and they're always towed to and from there.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

azflyboy posted:

Seattle doesn't really see that many VFR departures (it's probably a single digit number per day), and a Q400 requesting a VFR clearance from that particular spot on the airport would have raised some eyebrows, since that area is almost exclusively used by Horizon to park operational spares during the day, and they're always towed to and from there.

It's hard to say since it didn't happen, I guess. But my point is that the only red flag (until the barrel roll) was not talking to ATC. If he had pretended to be a pilot on the radio he could have avoided detection for even longer.

Edit: hell with a little more research he could have found out how to file IFR and read back clearance.

Zero One fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jun 29, 2021

wibble
May 20, 2001
Meep meep

Can't wait to watch the Mayday for this!

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Zero One posted:

It's hard to say since it didn't happen, I guess. But my point is that the only red flag (until the barrel roll) was not talking to ATC. If he had pretended to be a pilot on the radio he could have avoided detection for even longer.

Edit: hell with a little more research he could have found out how to file IFR and read back clearance.

“Not talking to ATC” includes a bunch of airspace violations

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

hobbesmaster posted:

“Not talking to ATC” includes a bunch of airspace violations

I'm not sure what you are saying here? By not talking to ATC they immediately knew something was wrong when he taxied onto the runway. They didn't need to wait for him to bust airspace.

I'll admit to not knowing Seattle airspace but hypothetically if he had departed Seattle with ATC clearance it would have included clearance into the Class B. Maybe they figure out quick, maybe not until after he circles Mt. Rainer. My point is that someone more determined than him could have been a lot more stealthy with stealing the plane.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Is there some kind of db with a list of planes that show no reg and just a hex?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Pretty astonishing finding in a Norwegian accident report.

Short version: Helicopter pilot feels mechanical vibration, decides to land and check it out. No chip light or other warnings. While searching for a good spot, it gets worse and just before he can set it down, the main gearbox fails and the helicopter crashes from 2-3 m height. Both occupants uninjured. Investigation finds a snapped input shaft containing two wine corks. Someone has probably thought that end plug was causing an oil leak and fixed it with some fluid containment devices presumably readily available in the workshop. The real source of the oil leak was a propagating crack.

The gearbox apparently had a spotty maintenance record from time in Italy, partly with the company "Copter & Boat’s Dream".






Full report: https://havarikommisjonen.no/Aviation/Published-reports/2021-07

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

Ola posted:

Pretty astonishing finding in a Norwegian accident report.

Short version: Helicopter pilot feels mechanical vibration, decides to land and check it out. No chip light or other warnings. While searching for a good spot, it gets worse and just before he can set it down, the main gearbox fails and the helicopter crashes from 2-3 m height. Both occupants uninjured. Investigation finds a snapped input shaft containing two wine corks. Someone has probably thought that end plug was causing an oil leak and fixed it with some fluid containment devices presumably readily available in the workshop. The real source of the oil leak was a propagating crack.

The gearbox apparently had a spotty maintenance record from time in Italy, partly with the company "Copter & Boat’s Dream".






Full report: https://havarikommisjonen.no/Aviation/Published-reports/2021-07
If that had happened at height, would a gear-box failure be an auto-rotate situation, or a bend-over and kiss your arse good-bye?

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Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Cable Guy posted:

If that had happened at height, would a gear-box failure be an auto-rotate situation, or a bend-over and kiss your arse good-bye?

Actual knowledgeable helicopter dudes may correct me here, but in theory you could autorotate from that since it's just the engine no longer inputting. If the rotor is spinning as normal and is controllable you can do it. But the pinion which has broken loose is probably no longer contained in its usual place. If it moves it will probably upset the clockwork inside in a noisy, crunchy way and the forces at play will be redirected in ways which will bend you over and kiss your rear end goodbye before you have time to do it yourself.

Ola fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jun 30, 2021

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