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Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Turin Turambar posted:

I watched the entire video, if only because I don't think I ever progressed past the first half of Hexen...

I also watched the entire video, and I was surprised how much I remembered from a playthrough about 5 years ago. Especially the secret levels. I played on the second difficulty tho. Still a switch hunt, but nowhere near as much as a slog.

If there is a Hexen 2 video I look forward to seeing some of the puzzles.

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treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
Hexen rules and the ice shard spell is my runner up for best shotgun after the SSG. The first hub is needlessly esoteric and visually boring and I think the general view of the game is unfavorable because memories of that hub are the first to surface every time people think of Hexen. The rest of the game is a lot better and deserves more respect than it gets. I've played through the game several times and have still never, ever visited the first secret map legitimately without cheat warping there. The second I can exit that first hub, I'm out.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
where is my goddamn Cruelty Squad vid Civvie

Prophet of Nixon
May 7, 2007

Thou art not a crook!

treat posted:

Hexen rules and the ice shard spell is my runner up for best shotgun after the SSG. The first hub is needlessly esoteric and visually boring and I think the general view of the game is unfavorable because memories of that hub are the first to surface every time people think of Hexen. The rest of the game is a lot better and deserves more respect than it gets. I've played through the game several times and have still never, ever visited the first secret map legitimately without cheat warping there. The second I can exit that first hub, I'm out.

I love Hexen (try it with High Noon Drifter too!) but what kept me stuck on that first hub in the 90s was figuring out that there were sliding chunks of level geometry in Guardian of Steel. Finding switches is easy, figuring out the cause and effect is a lot harder. Aside from Guardian of Steel I don't think the first hub is too boring, but I do agree that the game just gets better and better afterward.

I still think the audio and music of that game is almost unmatched.

Never really could get into Deathkings though.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Yeah, I think if you didn't have Guardian of Steel then the first hub of Hexen would play much smoother, it's the one I think you have to go back and forth from the most and it just kinda sucks.

I need to give Hexen another go, I made it past the first hub once (by taking advantage of crouching, admittedly) but I need to actually just play the drat thing.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Another thing that would improve Hexen is if they hadn't bothered with the separate classes as it just results in the three characters being rather shallow by FPS standards in terms of arsenal

Also Civvie really should stop playing games on the hardest difficulties you can really tell he doesn't get a lot of enjoyment out of doing that in most of the games he plays(and it definitely results in some of his longer videos getting a little tedious in parts too) and I don't just mean Civvie the character I mean you can just feel the tedium leaking through in a lot of his videos from doing that

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



drrockso20 posted:

Another thing that would improve Hexen is if they hadn't bothered with the separate classes as it just results in the three characters being rather shallow by FPS standards in terms of arsenal

Also Civvie really should stop playing games on the hardest difficulties you can really tell he doesn't get a lot of enjoyment out of doing that in most of the games he plays(and it definitely results in some of his longer videos getting a little tedious in parts too) and I don't just mean Civvie the character I mean you can just feel the tedium leaking through in a lot of his videos from doing that

I think he feels the pressure to play them that way because part of the popularity of the channel is watching someone angry and/or suffering with videogames.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Hexen is pretty awful, despite being amazing

Hexen 2 is pretty excellent, despite being awful

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
:siren: A Dark Messiah multiplayer pick up game is starting up in a couple hours at 5pm Pacific. There will hopefully be a good number of people joining but the more the merrier. The game is also on sale for $2.50 if you somehow don't own it.

Server info:

CFG NA Dark Messiah server
IP: 107.220.62.54
Port: 27015

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

treat posted:

:siren: A Dark Messiah multiplayer pick up game is starting up in a couple hours at 5pm Pacific. There will hopefully be a good number of people joining but the more the merrier. The game is also on sale for $2.50 if you somehow don't own it.

Server info:

CFG NA Dark Messiah server
IP: 107.220.62.54
Port: 27015

Never played it before, sell me on why it's worth my $2.50

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?
It's a pre-Dishonored game by Arkane, fwiw.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

drrockso20 posted:

Never played it before, sell me on why it's worth my $2.50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS49Dazin3E

szary
Mar 12, 2014

drrockso20 posted:

Never played it before, sell me on why it's worth my $2.50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1GLZILJc24

just mute the stupid music.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



drrockso20 posted:

Never played it before, sell me on why it's worth my $2.50

Single player? Holy poo poo is well worth it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS49Dazin3E
Edited out the 2nd video because there are some spoilers.

Guillermus fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jul 2, 2021

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...




there is no amount of nostalgia on god's green earth that will somehow warp my brain into thinking that hexen's overall map design wasn't awful

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Ok I think I'm sold

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Johnny Joestar posted:

there is no amount of nostalgia on god's green earth that will somehow warp my brain into thinking that hexen's overall map design wasn't awful

I don’t know what’s different in the N64 version but I remember getting stuck immediately after I rented it.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Also ARMA: Cold War Assault(aka Operation Flashpoint) is free on Steam at the moment so grab that before it expires

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
7 minutes of System Shock gameplay from the Research level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWaCLBUCeA

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

7 minutes of System Shock gameplay from the Research level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWaCLBUCeA

Cool to see some actual gameplay coming out of them; their demos don't run well on WINE which is a shame. The lighting seems a little overboard however, it's like the Dynamic Lighting Wizard cast a spell of Bloomicus Maximus. Oh and is my memory failing me, or are those little spider bots original additions (not that there's anything wrong with that)? I don't recall them at all.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
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Spider bots are in the original, but only a handful show up throughout the entire game.

Rocket Pan
Nov 3, 2011

Anything can be sent, as long as it's less than 1200 bytes
https://twitter.com/pripyatbeast/status/1411082784047734788

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

7 minutes of System Shock gameplay from the Research level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZWaCLBUCeA

Looks cool. Announce a release date, cowards. (I preordered for SS2EE)

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

drrockso20 posted:

doesn't get a lot of enjoyment ... getting a little tedious

That's just Hexen

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Hexen is good; the level design isn't anywhere near as much of a problem as the extremely narrow arsenal. Playing with wrath of cronos fixes that problem and lets the rest of the game really shine

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Anyway I want to see Civvie do hexen 2 to see if he can figure out how that goddamn nine tiles puzzle works

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Wamdoodle posted:

That's just Hexen

I've seen it happen in a lot of his videos, though Hexen is definitely an extreme example

Overwatch Porn posted:

Hexen is good; the level design isn't anywhere near as much of a problem as the extremely narrow arsenal. Playing with wrath of cronos fixes that problem and lets the rest of the game really shine

That definitely is a huge part of the problem, and again not helped by Civvie playing on the highest difficulty, way I see it most games aren't really meant to be played on those difficulties in the first place and often what they do to achieve that extra challenge tends to sap the things that make the game any fun

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

SeANMcBAY posted:

I don’t know what’s different in the N64 version but I remember getting stuck immediately after I rented it.

Renting N64 games bro!!

my friends and i used to rent the same copy of Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy and used to mess with each others CAWs

Eric: "AWWW poo poo HERE COMES DOOMSDAY HES GONNA gently caress THIS RUMBLE UP!"
*Doomsday runs to the ring and stands like a sassy lady and just bitch slaps people*
Eric: WHAT THE gently caress
me: *crying with laughter*

verbal enema fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jul 3, 2021

Prophet of Nixon
May 7, 2007

Thou art not a crook!

drrockso20 posted:

I've seen it happen in a lot of his videos, though Hexen is definitely an extreme example

That definitely is a huge part of the problem, and again not helped by Civvie playing on the highest difficulty, way I see it most games aren't really meant to be played on those difficulties in the first place and often what they do to achieve that extra challenge tends to sap the things that make the game any fun

Highest difficulty Hexen is a bit of a slog but it keeps your interest due to the scarcity of mana/ammo and health. Every usable item becomes important at high level, and things like creating chokepoints with flechettes or repulsing enemies over cliffs become really important too. It also means a lot of using your starter unpowered weapon though. It would definitely be boring to watch someone else play.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

playing as mage hurts too. the ice shards are the most annoying weapon

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



What’s the extra difficulty do in that source port he was using?

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Overwatch Porn posted:

Anyway I want to see Civvie do hexen 2 to see if he can figure out how that goddamn nine tiles puzzle works

Yes! Quoting an old post of mine.

Mierenneuker posted:

I just tried to look up the YouTube video I used to figure that tile puzzle out. I think it was this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmaUQIqeuQg&t=284s
Pattern/solution at 4:45, actual puzzle is at 8 minutes. It ends up being the third pattern listed. Which he only tried during the final attempt.

But now I'm not actually sure if not running is the key to the puzzle. I just suggest you just noclip to skip to the next level. Don't noclip the puzzle, skip the ENTIRE level.

Edit: This is how every speedrunner does the puzzle :shepface:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwFJTebapfY&t=913s
(15:13)

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause

shoeberto posted:

Looks cool. Announce a release date, cowards. (I preordered for SS2EE)

I'm trying to psyche myself up to not get inconsolably bummed when they miss the "end of summer 2021" release date. :negative:


A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

I'm trying to psyche myself up to not get inconsolably bummed when they miss the "end of summer 2021" release date. :negative:



If I had to guess, and this is a wild guess, mind you, it looks like they're trying to port SiN to a new engine.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I am 100% down to play SiN in a new engine. Never completed it back in the day.

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Hoyl f

https://twitter.com/SelacoGame/status/1411326697618784263

:swoon:

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?



i love the bright environments

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

juggalo baby coffin posted:

i love the bright environments

It looks somewhat like the final base levels of Far Cry Blood Dragon, which I enjoyed entirely.

JLaw
Feb 10, 2008

- harmless -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgBg2sEmqA

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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
I'm sorry, was that a flak cannon?

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