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https://twitter.com/ArborErich/status/1411688736602169347 https://twitter.com/ArborErich/status/1411688738292387855 Happy 4th of July but leftishly 
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Jul 5, 2021 07:54
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i feel like that even though he wasnt explicitly marxist this news would mean most to the people itt. extremely sad  rip to an anti-racist king e: https://www.nature.com/articles/266283a0 
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Jul 5, 2021 07:59
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Lenin…was not perfect
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Jul 5, 2021 08:02
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the American revolution was barely even a bourgeois revolution, it was more like establishing Britian no longer controlled the colonies de Jure rather than merely de facto
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Jul 5, 2021 08:03
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i was curious about context and it's from an open letter to american workers so he's being more rhetorical than analytical there (with some bonus irony about dividing up stolen lands that he was probably aware of though):https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/laboraction-ny/1945/v09n05/lenin.htm posted:The history of modern civilized America opens with one of those great, really liberating, really revolutionary wars of which there have been so few among the large number of wars of conquest that were caused, like the present imperialist war, by squabbles among kings, landowners and capitalists over the division of seized lands and stolen profits. It was a war of the American people against English robbers who subjected America and held it in colonial slavery as these “civilized” blood-sucker,s are now subjecting and holding colonial slavery hundreds of millions of people in India, Egypt and in all corners of the world.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:08
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Hodgepodge posted:i was curious about context and it's from an open letter to american workers so he's being more rhetorical than analytical there (with some bonus irony about dividing up stolen lands that he was probably aware of though): hmm right yet again
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Jul 5, 2021 08:20
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To be honest, it does really sound like he is bullshitting but in a way that honestly most Americans would lap up. Eh...I don't know what that says about Americans.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:20
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america, a great grift built atop a great theft
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Jul 5, 2021 08:22
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https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1409322918677389314 The guy he's quoting was a huge rear end in a top hat on boardgamegeek which I find hilarious for some reason.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:38
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cenotaph posted:https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1409322918677389314 lol punching down on community colleges while upholding the perfect smoothness of academia stupid loving liberals, the guillotine is too good for them
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Jul 5, 2021 08:40
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the American revolution was barely even a bourgeois revolution, it was more like establishing Britian no longer controlled the colonies de Jure rather than merely de facto America wasn't even the first constitutional state to defeat an empire, seeing as how the Dutch beat the Spanish Hapsburgs.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:44
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exmarx posted:
that whole article is so loving good lol. have you ever listened to that one lecture series he did, "biology as ideology"? its a banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni8kL5TTRtA
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Jul 5, 2021 08:46
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my bony fealty posted:lol punching down on community colleges while upholding the perfect smoothness of academia My humanities teacher in community college was Harvard educated.
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Jul 5, 2021 08:47
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cenotaph posted:https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1409322918677389314 i'm permabanned from there lol
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Jul 5, 2021 09:23
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Trash Ops posted:i'm permabanned from there lol lmao how? Their moderation is so soft.
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Jul 5, 2021 09:29
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cenotaph posted:lmao how? Their moderation is so soft. when i wasn't being a commie in rsp i trolled their byob whatever it was called, until someone doxxed me. i told her that her cat committed suicide rather than live with her crazy rear end, then octavian pulled the trigger
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Jul 5, 2021 09:39
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anyways ddj was one of the main freaks i enjoyed making fun of, lol
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Jul 5, 2021 09:41
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lol
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Jul 5, 2021 09:41
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:that whole article is so loving good lol. yeah, it's great. as is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvG1ylKhzoo&t=187s his and levins' articulation of biology really helped me get dialectics as a whole
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Jul 5, 2021 10:00
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The American revolution did one unironically good thing - bankrupt the French crown and allow for the chad bourgeois revolution to foment
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Jul 5, 2021 12:25
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the American revolution was barely even a bourgeois revolution, it was more like establishing Britian no longer controlled the colonies de Jure rather than merely de facto it was an aristocratic revolt basically. not sure why they didn't just end up calling themselves a kingdom tbh. it literally might have just been that washington and the like literally 2 other proto-jacobins were just that persuasive. there's at least a couple founding fathers (and a lot of financial backers) whos primary reason for revolt was 'jackass king wouldn't promote me to aristocrat '
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Jul 5, 2021 13:05
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exmarx posted:yeah, it's great. as is this one: this was fantastic by the way, thank you very much for sharing. we are for real worse off as a whole without him
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Jul 5, 2021 13:10
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Larry Parrish posted:it was an aristocratic revolt basically. not sure why they didn't just end up calling themselves a kingdom tbh. it literally might have just been that washington and the like literally 2 other proto-jacobins were just that persuasive. there's at least a couple founding fathers (and a lot of financial backers) whos primary reason for revolt was 'jackass king wouldn't promote me to aristocrat it's because the founders were Romeaboos who jacked off to the Enlightenment, so the cool thing to do was be a republic. It also would've been a lot easier at the time to manage 13 sovereign governments with a weak central authority instead of having a monarch whose power is vested by God. Yes, they could have had a weak constitutional monarchy but then the colonial governments couldn't be republics either. As edgy and revisionist as we like to be, there really was a radical democratic undercurrent to the American Revolution ideologically - so the founders could have only carried their aristocratic interests so far. It was better to keep things de facto than de jure or else they could have a second revolution on their hands.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:11
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A lot of that gets hashed out in the evolution from the articles of confederation to the constitution in tue 1790s.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:13
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it seems to me the difference is whether they wanted to fight the civil war right away, basically. cuz there's no point in doing a monarchy at that time and place if you're not going to heavily centralize the government. but heavier centralization than what we got would have meant triggering the civil war way earlier. who knows. the founding fathers suck rear end either way imo.
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Jul 5, 2021 13:25
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Tom Paine was all right
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Jul 5, 2021 13:57
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https://twitter.com/sunraysunray/status/1411675804174589955 Lol
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Jul 5, 2021 15:45
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Was listening to this: https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1411472957185069059 and they were roasting a guy who had a Bakunin poster, and they mention that Bakunin was a raging anti-Semitite, which I knew, but also that he had warm words for the US Confederates. Lol.
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Jul 5, 2021 17:53
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gradenko_2000 posted:Tom Paine was all right Unironically yes. Only founding father worth reading more than once
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Jul 5, 2021 21:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/ArborErich/status/1411688736602169347 Liberalishly: if you nasty leftists don't stop saying harsh truths about America then all the indoctrinated people won't listen to you 
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Jul 5, 2021 22:17
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OK baizuo posted:Liberalishly: if you nasty leftists don't stop saying harsh truths about America then all the indoctrinated people won't listen to you as much as I hate this poo poo I think there’s a bit of truth to the idea that socialist/communist rhetoric would be more effective with an appeal to (ugh) American values or identity if Lenin could lower himself to it maybe it’s worth considering
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Jul 5, 2021 23:28
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real Americans kill nobles. and what's more like a noble than a rich person?
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Jul 5, 2021 23:29
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God drat it I didn't save my old cool avatar link. Thanks whichever lurker dipshit bought me this.
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Jul 5, 2021 23:31
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Cool text, Larry.
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Jul 5, 2021 23:52
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indigi posted:as much as I hate this poo poo I think there’s a bit of truth to the idea that socialist/communist rhetoric would be more effective with an appeal to (ugh) American values or identity "American values & identity" are explicitly anti-communist and anti-socialist. There's just no getting around it. They're explicitly defined that way. American values are bourgeois values.
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Jul 5, 2021 23:53
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larry if you weren't such tankie/stalinist/assadist/xi lover/genocide denier/dicktator lover/brownmoses denier maybe you wouldn't have so much trouble 
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Jul 5, 2021 23:56
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"American values & identity" are explicitly anti-communist and anti-socialist. There's just no getting around it. They're explicitly defined that way. American values are bourgeois values. yeah but luckily this is America so you can just gerrymander “American values” to mean only what you want them to mean. Nat Turner and John Brown exemplified American values
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Jul 5, 2021 23:59
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I’ve been reading about “socialism with Chinese characteristics” is the CCP ideology considered to be legit Marxism or is it a fig leaf for other interests ?
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Jul 6, 2021 00:01
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euphronius posted:I’ve been reading about “socialism with Chinese characteristics” what other interests would it be a fig leaf for? big mobile games?
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underestimate the mobile market at your own peril
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