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Syrnn posted:In the end, Trek guns shouldn't really matter this much. It's not really what Gene's Vision™ is about, and they're going up against the ZF-1 for tacticoolest sci-fi gun. Instead, let's get a shoutout to the design team for sticking to their guns on these bad boys. It's just so ergonomic: You could at least moderately injure someone with one of those. I rate it a 5.5 on the Adama scale of flashlights.
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If you can beam down a red shirt with a phaser you can beam down one of those drones from Insurrection. Was that one of the last instances of Trek predicting a device that would soon become real? Small military drones have been a big deal in Ukraine and Azerbaijan/ Armenia.
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Syrnn posted:In the end, Trek guns shouldn't really matter this much. It's not really what Gene's Vision™ is about, and they're going up against the ZF-1 for tacticoolest sci-fi gun. Instead, let's get a shoutout to the design team for sticking to their guns on these bad boys. It's just so ergonomic: Is it my imagination or did they eventually switch to one strapped to your hand?
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Jul 5, 2021 05:49
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McSpanky posted:They sketched up just such a thing! It turns out that a weapon composed primarily of grip is so much not like a weapon that it doesn't convey any kind of threat or menace at all. It's like you're pointing a fancy doctor's office ear scope at someone. To be fair, being zero threat pointing an ear scope kinda fits the Starfleet mood. That said, imo the two larger drawings of the pistols there work really well, but were probably too gunlike.
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Jul 5, 2021 05:53
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MikeJF posted:Is it my imagination or did they eventually switch to one strapped to your hand? Yup, Voyager had a big bulky one that strapped to your wrist and had to be held straight out to see anything. So dumb.
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Star Trek Online has little flashlights that hover behind your shoulder and illuminate whatever you're looking at, hands free. Because that was cheaper to do.
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Syrnn posted:In the end, Trek guns shouldn't really matter this much. It's not really what Gene's Vision™ is about, and they're going up against the ZF-1 for tacticoolest sci-fi gun. Instead, let's get a shoutout to the design team for sticking to their guns on these bad boys. It's just so ergonomic: Wait, why's Picard being an rear end in a top hat and just shining that thing right at eye level into someone's face?
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nine-gear crow posted:Wait, why's Picard being an rear end in a top hat and just shining that thing right at eye level into someone's face? He finally found the fifth light
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nine-gear crow posted:Wait, why's Picard being an rear end in a top hat and just shining that thing right at eye level into someone's face?
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Syrnn posted:In the end, Trek guns shouldn't really matter this much. It's not really what Gene's Vision™ is about, and they're going up against the ZF-1 for tacticoolest sci-fi gun. Instead, let's get a shoutout to the design team for sticking to their guns on these bad boys. It's just so ergonomic:
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Yup, Voyager had a big bulky one that strapped to your wrist and had to be held straight out to see anything. From the action figures, I know that this was called a SIMS beacon.
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So the Romulans left Vulcan after Surak's revolution in the 4th century AD, which means their races is about 2,000 years old by the time of TNG. In the TNG episode "The Enemy", Dr Crusher says that Romulans are not exactly like Vulcans, there are enough differences to make treating her injured Romulan difficult. 2,000 years is not enough time for a species to diverge. Romulans should be totally like Vulcans.
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Based on what we know of exactly one planet and the species thereon, which all share a common heritage.
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Kurzon posted:So the Romulans left Vulcan after Surak's revolution in the 4th century AD, which means their races is about 2,000 years old by the time of TNG. In the TNG episode "The Enemy", Dr Crusher says that Romulans are not exactly like Vulcans, there are enough differences to make treating her injured Romulan difficult. 2,000 years is not enough time for a species to diverge. Romulans should be totally like Vulcans. Maybe they diverged millions of years ago and are like cro magnon vs humans, but they sharey a planet, but the Romulans decided to actually leave 2000 years ago
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Terror Sweat posted:He finally found the fifth light (In Bullock voice) "How did the Cardassians know I kept this here? I never tell a soul about my secret lights! Number One? You haven't breathed a word to anyone of my... *secret lights*? ...jolly good! Then let's get down to Ten Forward and rail synthaine off my woolly chest!"
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Maybe they diverged millions of years ago and are like cro magnon vs humans, but they sharey a planet, but the Romulans decided to actually leave 2000 years ago Maybe vulcans changed their DNA with telepathy.
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PerniciousKnid posted:Maybe Romulans hosed some Remans.
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Interfering with my post is a violation of the Prime Directive.
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2000 years is enough time if you assume some steep founder effects.
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MikeJF posted:2000 years is enough time if you assume some steep founder effects.
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Kurzon posted:By the standards of the early 1990s, those portable lights very bright. Flashlights in those days gave weak illumination, we've been spoiled by high-power LEDs. I remember reading somewhere that they couldn't actually power the prop with batteries (as you say, it was way too bright) so there was a long power cable running up the actor's sleeve and out the bottom of their pant leg to plug into the wall.
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MikeJF posted:2000 years is enough time if you assume some steep founder effects.
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Vulcans are clearly genetically augmented. Physically and mentally superior? Check. Dangerously passionate, to the point of murderous rages? Check. Romulans, meanwhile, seem to have none of these traits, and are presumably the unenhanced 'baseline' Vulcans, forced into exile after Vulcan's own Eugenics Wars ended.
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Kurzon posted:Romulans must breed like rabbits if they can go from a tiny founding population to an interstellar empire that outnumbers the original Vulcans. Well, they had just escaped from a culture that only fucks once every seven years, so
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Well, they had just escaped from a culture that only fucks once every seven years, so When you put it that way, it's pretty amazing that Vulcans can retain control of their emotions when they only get some every seven years.
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Maybe crazy space stuff and living on a very different planet could speed up genetic drift. There's been very little exploration of stuff what else Vulcans got up to during their days of ancient space exploration.
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Maybe they could do what they did for Klingons in Enterprise and say that the Romulans contracted some virus that altered their genome and gave them all bumpy foreheads (god I hate that episode, why couldn't they just pretend that Klingons always had bumpy foreheads?).
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Kurzon posted:So the Romulans left Vulcan after Surak's revolution in the 4th century AD, which means their races is about 2,000 years old by the time of TNG. In the TNG episode "The Enemy", Dr Crusher says that Romulans are not exactly like Vulcans, there are enough differences to make treating her injured Romulan difficult. 2,000 years is not enough time for a species to diverge. Romulans should be totally like Vulcans. It was that brief alliance mentioned in TOS -- the Klingons got cloaking tech, the Romulans got D-7s and forehead ridges.
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Little known fact, the D' in D'deridex stands for "dooj"
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Kurzon posted:Maybe they could do what they did for Klingons in Enterprise and say that the Romulans contracted some virus that altered their genome and gave them all bumpy foreheads (god I hate that episode, why couldn't they just pretend that Klingons always had bumpy foreheads?). They really should have had Worf inexplicably look like TOS Klingons when he was on the station and never acknowledged it in dialogue.
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Kurzon posted:Maybe they could do what they did for Klingons in Enterprise and say that the Romulans contracted some virus that altered their genome and gave them all bumpy foreheads (god I hate that episode, why couldn't they just pretend that Klingons always had bumpy foreheads?). In Star Trek Picard they have both bumpy Romulans and non-bumpy Romulans and apparently the bumpy ones are 'northerners'. Which is a good a handwave as any.
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It would be more interesting if Klingon was a cultural signifier rather than a species. To be a Klingon requires performing the correct rituals, observing the correct practices, and generally being a beligerant rear end in a top hat most of the time.
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MikeJF posted:In Star Trek Picard they have both bumpy Romulans and non-bumpy Romulans and apparently the bumpy ones are 'northerners'. I absolutely loved that bit, because its the only time in star trek I can think of that has regional variety within a species (the northerners being allegedly stubborn) as well as real-world non-generic-english/american accents for aliens.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It would be more interesting if Klingon was a cultural signifier rather than a species. To be a Klingon requires performing the correct rituals, observing the correct practices, and generally being a beligerant rear end in a top hat most of the time. Or just an expression of hegemony. Like how all citizens of the Roman Empire were “Romans” even if they lived right up against Hadrian’s Wall. Every species under the Klingon Empire is a “Klingon”… whether they want to be or not.
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nine-gear crow posted:Or just an expression of hegemony. Like how all citizens of the Roman Empire were “Romans” even if they lived right up against Hadrian’s Wall. Every species under the Klingon Empire is a “Klingon”… whether they want to be or not. Yeah exactly. Like, the OG Klingons would have more political power because that's how imperialism works, but conquered people who put up a good fight before bending the knee, then raised their kids to follow the Empire's rules and rituals would be considered Klingon
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Angry Salami posted:Vulcans are clearly genetically augmented. Physically and mentally superior? Check. Dangerously passionate, to the point of murderous rages? Check. Vulcans also have a lot of adaptations that are specific to living in an irradiated postnuclear desert, adaptations that Romulans lack.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I absolutely loved that bit, because its the only time in star trek I can think of that has regional variety within a species (the northerners being allegedly stubborn) as well as real-world non-generic-english/american accents for aliens. Yeah I haven't really watched Picard but that's actually a great explanation.
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That there exists a category of "proto-Vulcans" like the Mintakans lends credence to the idea that Arretans did in fact seed a bunch of 'Vulcanoids' across the galaxy... Meaning that Vulcans did not originate from Vulcan.
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Brawnfire posted:Little known fact, the D' in D'deridex stands for "dooj" Unfortunately their intercom blares a very annoying siren whenever a key system is down.
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Hey yall I'm watching Nemesis and this movie is loving terrible
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