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Volmarias posted:Jeez. Whoever gave him a sixer, it sounds like it should be a six monther. Chronically terrible posters don't get banned anymore. There's basically no reason not just post garbage.
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MickeyFinn posted:I object to these jobs being referred to as healthcare jobs. Spending nearly 1/3 of our healthcare expenses on administration is bureaucratic bloat. I always wonder what the cost of advertising is as well. I never understand why hospitals put up billboards or drug companies telling me to "ask my doctor" for poo poo. If I need to go to a hospital, pretty sure my brand loyalty is "the closest one please" and as far as drugs go, shouldn't me doctor be telling me? EDIT: Sorry not really tech related On topic, what does everybody think about the increasing move towards telehealth? I'm kind of mixed on it. On the one hand, certain stuff can be diagnosed over the phone and it seems like therapy sessions can too. But things like strep throat and what have you...I don't know. I had something a month back that kicked my loving rear end for 2 weeks. The doctor refused to see me due to covid symptoms even though I was vaccinated and had to teleconference 2x. First time they said bronchitis but when the meds didn't work they ramped it up to pneumonia. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I always wonder what the cost of advertising is as well. I never understand why hospitals put up billboards or drug companies telling me to "ask my doctor" for poo poo. If I need to go to a hospital, pretty sure my brand loyalty is "the closest one please" and as far as drugs go, shouldn't me doctor be telling me? True if you go to the emergency room but for most other things you probably have enough time to contemplate options. Not defending the system just saying they're trying to get non-emergency business.
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Well, that still seems weird. It's not a resort or a vacation spot. It's a god damned hospital and I'm only going to one if something's broken or poo poo like that. I started a healthcare thread somewhere because it comes up in SO MANY threads here but it died on the vine for some reason.Doggles posted:https://twitter.com/DeanTrantalis/status/1412563013383737344 Wait. Wait. An underground transportation in loving FLORIDA? On the COAST? Houses can't even have basements here. Our entire foundation is limestone and we get sinkholes all the time. Our Republican leadership vetoed high speed rail which we desperately need. What the gently caress is this? Jesus Christ.
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Submarine tunnel bro
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Mister Facetious posted:Submarine tunnel bro We've got em here in southeastern VA but I don't get the sense Elon Musk's little drill scam is up to it 
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Musk also recently posted about how FSD turned put to be much more difficult than expected (as everyone said it would be) because getting it to work reliably in urban environments requires a bunch of general AI work (as everyone said it would).
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Musk’s tunnels will make Florida safer by finding the sinkholes before they reach the surface. Thank you, Muskmelon. 
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Senor Tron posted:Musk also recently posted about how FSD turned put to be much more difficult than expected (as everyone said it would be) because getting it to work reliably in urban environments requires a bunch of general AI work (as everyone said it would).
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TheScott2K posted:We've got em here in southeastern VA but I don't get the sense Elon Musk's little drill scam is up to it No, I meant a tunnel for submarines. Because it'll be flooded on the first day  For the water tight Tesla that doesn't let people out.
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Mister Facetious posted:No, I meant a tunnel for submarines. Hyperloop: Aqua Edition.
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We already discussed the Musk rescue submarine concept in the context of a potential Vegas tunnel flood (due to freak weather patterns or dousing a flaming Tesla, whichever) like 100 pages ago, pay attention.
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That's an accident waiting to happen, this is a business opportunity!
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TheScott2K posted:We've got em here in southeastern VA but I don't get the sense Elon Musk's little drill scam is up to it Two Tunnels and four man made islands Also fun fact, those tunnels were not drilled, they were built, they cut a trench for each tunnel line, then lowered prefabricated sections into place and had divers weld the sections tight, pumped the water out and then buried the lines. By doing so they ensured that the main shipping channels would be clear. I personally travel on the Bay Bridge further up north which is apparently so terrifying that there is a service available where a person gets in your car, drives you over the bridge while you presumably froth at the mouth or something then gets out and you continue on your way, state used to pay for it but its privatized now.
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AtomikKrab posted:Two Tunnels and four man made islands It's actually nine tunnels if you count the one-tube Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel and the two-tubes-apiece Downtown and Midtown Tunnels. Also they're gonna do more tubes for the Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel.
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Github's new 'AI' driven coding project, Copilot, is basically stealing people's code: https://twitter.com/NoraDotCodes/status/1412741339771461635?s=20 Including replaying API keys that are supposed to be private: https://twitter.com/linusgroh/status/1412067104082345993?s=20 https://fossbytes.com/github-copilot-generating-functional-api-keys/ Also been cases of it regurgitating people's comments and License agreements.
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CommieGIR posted:Github's new 'AI' driven coding project, Copilot, is basically stealing people's code: My codes will FINALLY see the credit they deserve when you hit tab and GitHub inserts my patentented Bimboification adapter.
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CommieGIR posted:Github's new 'AI' driven coding project, Copilot, is basically stealing people's code: The thing that gets me about this is how does Microsoft not foresee it causing problems for them? There are absolutely open source projects backed by orgs with the resources to sue MS. And who knows what happens if some junior dev uses it to accidentally insert something malicious into a DoD project.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The thing that gets me about this is how does Microsoft not foresee it causing problems for them? There are absolutely open source projects backed by orgs with the resources to sue MS. And who knows what happens if some junior dev uses it to accidentally insert something malicious into a DoD project. Its worse than that, apparently some people are getting it to spit out proprietary code that is from private githubs that they host, which means they are training it on even private code.
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BiggerBoat posted:I always wonder what the cost of advertising is as well. I never understand why hospitals put up billboards or drug companies telling me to "ask my doctor" for poo poo. If I need to go to a hospital, pretty sure my brand loyalty is "the closest one please" and as far as drugs go, shouldn't me doctor be telling me? To the best of my knowledge, only two counties in the world allow medical advertising. The US and New Zealand. But the Kiwis have socialised medicine, which makes a big difference.
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The obvious goal with the ai assistant is to make development cheaper for them. I'd they can teach an AI to code their poo poo instead of something made if meat they don't have to pay it. Of course they would use private repos for this goal. That was the whole point of buying GitHub!
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CommieGIR posted:Its worse than that, apparently some people are getting it to spit out proprietary code that is from private githubs that they host, which means they are training it on even private code. On further investigation it has also spat out working API keys. Good god, Microsoft.
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I'm going to laugh and laugh when it turns out they're digging through Enterprise repositories too. There's a lot of government stuff there.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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TACD posted:I really don’t think anybody should be using a frame shift drive in urban areas at all Last time I tried the Friendship Drive around Sol 3 I got blown up.
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I figure you're grav locked in the city so it doesn't make sense even if you could engage it, so I've never tried.
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Thought I asked this already but don't see it. What's the thread's general take on telehealth and video conferenced doctor visits? I'm sort of on the fence about it and can see upside as well as downside.
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BiggerBoat posted:Thought I asked this already but don't see it. What's the thread's general take on telehealth and video conferenced doctor visits? I'm sort of on the fence about it and can see upside as well as downside. Personally I think there are a ton of use cases that are really legitimate. It’s really easy to make therapy appointments when it’s on your phone or computer, and those services where you call contact a nurse if you’re unsure of the severity of a problem are only improved if you can see each other. Not to mention cases where folks are in remote or poorly served areas. Sure, there are plenty of ways that it could go way too far, and I’m also curious what actual healthcare providers think.
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telemedicine is a slight positive, at least for increasing the rate of initial contacts between patient and doctor. aside from folks with mobility issues, folks in remote areas, folks with transportation issues - i'm sure most of us relatively privileged folks have had some small health problem but weighed it against the cost of a whole visit to the doctor's office and declined. at the very least, being able to solicit a knowledgeable opinion on a phone call about a weird pain or strange cough is a benefit. i dont see a problem so long as the call could easily lead to a "i'm not sure about this... you better come in person / we'll send someone to you" outcome, and isn't just a way to check off "patient consulted" and then ignore the problem
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You can maybe squeeze in a telemedicine visit on your lunch break, and not get fired for missing work to go to the doctor, for people who have to deal with those kind of jobs/bosses.
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I think it's a good thing overall. It can turn into a whole event if you need to see a doctor and you have kids and no one else to watch them.
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BiggerBoat posted:Thought I asked this already but don't see it. What's the thread's general take on telehealth and video conferenced doctor visits? I'm sort of on the fence about it and can see upside as well as downside. Healthcare obvioualy differs greatly by nation and jurisdiction but still it's amusing to see what people consider normal. Here tele-medicine is an integrated part of healthcare from top to bottom and have been for a while Serious health issues go to the emergency 9-1-1 number where a nurse or doctor is patched directly into the call to evaluate and assist if needed. Partly to provide direct assistance with injuries, CPR etc and partly to have a competent assesment of the situation so the proper care can be dispatched. If necesarry video can be piped in through the callers phone camera, provided permission.. For non-emergency cases at odd hours you can call a national hotline similar to 9-1-1 and talk directly to a doctor sitting somewhere in a room full of other doctors waiting for your call. This is for anything health related so you can call at 4 in morning and have a chat with a doctor about your fever or prescriptions or whatever. When you call 9-1-1 Sunday night because you smoked some pot and now feel kinda strange you'll be transferred here. For regular care during the day you have your own doctor and you can schedule a phone or video conference like a regular meeting. I don't know when that started but it's not particularly recent. There's also an app for e-consultations which is presumably just a kind of secure email. We have a bunch of islands <100 pop so I guess it makes sense we'd be ahead on this one although the US seems to have plenty of remote rural areas.
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Owling Howl posted:For regular care during the day you have your own doctor and you can schedule a phone or video conference like a regular meeting. I don't know when that started but it's not particularly recent. There's also an app for e-consultations which is presumably just a kind of secure email. We have a bunch of islands <100 pop so I guess it makes sense we'd be ahead on this one although the US seems to have plenty of remote rural areas. Remote rural areas that would probably fight this tooth and nail. We have some places with privatized fire departments who will just let the building burn if you haven't paid your bill on time.
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Volmarias posted:Remote rural areas that would probably fight this tooth and nail. We have some places with privatized fire departments who will just let the building burn if you haven't paid your bill on time. The us has volunteer fire department in many rural area staffed by pay people that don't stay on station, I am not aware of any that are privatized. The one big story you may be thinking of was a rural fire department that did some out of service coverage ie outside of 5 miles of town that had a license you paid for that was only a few dollars a year that was for providing some funding to an immensely underfunded system. The place in question that was allowed to burn down was a home that they had put out twice before without charging them and that refused to pay the pittance fire fee because my rights. Firefighting is not cheap, nor is ems. Volunteers get paid nothing and many have to do fundraising to even pay for basic stuff at the station. It's a direct fault of local and state governments that it's like this, but many places flat out can't afford the costs to keep a full 24/7 ems and fire crew. But again, I have heard of absolutely no fire service that's full private, namely because unlike ambulances, there is nowhere near enough potential revenue in it to do so, and what your gonna charge thousands every time a fire alarm goes off? No one will pay it. Source:I work ems and directly with fire departments
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UCS Hellmaker posted:The us has volunteer fire department in many rural area staffed by pay people that don't stay on station, I am not aware of any that are privatized. The one big story you may be thinking of was a rural fire department that did some out of service coverage ie outside of 5 miles of town that had a license you paid for that was only a few dollars a year that was for providing some funding to an immensely underfunded system. The place in question that was allowed to burn down was a home that they had put out twice before without charging them and that refused to pay the pittance fire fee because my rights. There's a couple in Tennessee that require you to pay a yearly fee if you are in unincorporated parts of the county: https://www.salon.com/2010/10/04/libertarian_fire_department/
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UCS Hellmaker posted:what your gonna charge thousands every time a fire alarm goes off? No one will pay it. I admit this is a false equivalency, but cops respond to swatting all the time and their budgets (and occasionally body counts) only go up! 
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UCS Hellmaker posted:But again, I have heard of absolutely no fire service that's full private, namely because unlike ambulances, there is nowhere near enough potential revenue in it to do so, and what your gonna charge thousands every time a fire alarm goes off? No one will pay it. Weren't there some rich-rear end parts of LA (I wanna say near Hollywood?) that had basically assembled their own private firefighting force during last wildfire season? As the planet grows warm and everything burns down, privatizing fire services until no one but the rich can afford them would be very on brand.
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Solkanar512 posted:Personally I think there are a ton of use cases that are really legitimate. It’s really easy to make therapy appointments when it’s on your phone or computer, and those services where you call contact a nurse if you’re unsure of the severity of a problem are only improved if you can see each other. Not to mention cases where folks are in remote or poorly served areas. Yeah, I'm of 2 minds on it. I can totally see how it can save time, eliminate unnecessary office visits, keep sick people away from mingling in tight quarters and stuff like that. Certainly safer for the healthcare workers too. But I recently caught something that had every Covid symptom but the fever and it wound up lasting 2 weeks. The office wouldn't see me at all because of my symptoms, even though I was vaccinated, and they diagnosed me over the phone with bronchitis and gave me meds. 4 days later and I feel even worse so now it was apparently pneumonia. More meds. I can't help but think that sometimes actually seeing you in person leads to a much more accurate diagnosis, for obvious reasons. Rashes, strep throat...poo poo like that. Also, I'd imagine that there'd be some cost savings to the doctor's office which I'm CERTAIN will be passed on to the patients, right? There's also the issue of elderly people who see doctors more often not being incredibly tech savvy. RIGHT??
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CommieGIR posted:There's a couple in Tennessee that require you to pay a yearly fee if you are in unincorporated parts of the county: That's exactly what mean though. It's areas where they are outside of even the rural volly departments that you here of it, and primarily so that they have some ability to get coverage and the department does get some extra finding in order to pay for it. Again volly departments don't get paid. And have to fundraise more often then not for vehicle expenses. Considering how spread out the areas in question can be having to cover everything in a county is insane considering how bad it can get.
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