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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Casey Finnigan posted:

we'll just expand incarceration rates and prison labor some more. slaves aren't just for wildfires these days!!

being unemployed is now illegal

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Torpor
Oct 20, 2008

.. and now for my next trick, I'll pretend to be a political commentator...

HONK HONK

silentsnack posted:

beyond legal migrant workers there's also the colossally stupid gestapo ice/cbp raids targeting undocumented workers who were doing the jobs nobody else would willingly accept, for criminally-low wages

right, border restrictions might be a source of some of the issues in the world economy, with work not being done and the associated spending and remittances not happening. I’m not sure if student visas imploded or not but those guys did sometimes do food service jobs.


edit: the actual USCIS numbers for 2020 don’t seem to bear out a tremendous change in immigration, so v:shobon:v

Torpor has issued a correction as of 18:41 on Jul 22, 2021

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005



But how will his methods help cure the tsarovichs son's hemophilia?

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Shrecknet posted:

But how will his methods help cure the tsarovichs son's hemophilia?

weird of him to pickle his dick when being alive still.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Shrecknet posted:

But how will his methods help cure the tsarovichs son's hemophilia?

You seem to have made an error, the mad monk was a highly charismatic person

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Mr. Lobe posted:

You seem to have made an error, the mad monk was a highly charismatic person

The longer your beard the more charismatic.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Rutibex posted:

being unemployed is now illegal

that's literally how the soviet union worked~

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Imagine having a brain like this.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Solving world peace with the blockchain.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
lol just got an email from a major intl logistics company going through a lot of stuff you all know and it’s very doomsday and at the end it says

at this time there is no indication as to when cargo will again flow at pre-pandemic service and transit time levels

lol

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Rutibex posted:

being unemployed is now illegal

your state unemployment office has a job you can't refuse... in the prisons

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


Update: they're all up bigly now, lmao

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Monetary policy is not the solution to inequality

lol is the U.S. and China more alike than they think

quote:

The big contrast between the US and other high-income countries in income inequality, for example, is in the relative absence of redistribution in the former. In some big emerging economies, there is little redistribution, especially in supposedly socialist China.



This seems surprising

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




sonatinas posted:

at this time there is no indication as to when cargo will again flow at pre-pandemic service and transit time leveled

plan on years I’m thinking like 5. like it’ll be not terrible as bad as now at some point before that. but years before back to anything “normal” and maybe never.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Bar Ran Dun posted:

plan on years I’m thinking like 5. like it’ll be not terrible as bad as now at some point before that. but years before back to anything “normal” and maybe never.

Looking at the mega droughts, fires, collapsing infrastructure, and climate apocalypse in general. Yeah I am goingto go with never.

Like at least within USA there's going to have to be a lot of reshuffling of industries that things probably won't go back to the way they were.

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 20:24 on Jul 22, 2021

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Bar Ran Dun posted:

plan on years I’m thinking like 5. like it’ll be not terrible as bad as now at some point before that. but years before back to anything “normal” and maybe never.

guess job security for people like me who do intl container logistics because brining somebody into this mess without proper training is yikes

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Maximo Roboto posted:

Monetary policy is not the solution to inequality

lol is the U.S. and China more alike than they think



This seems surprising



I see that salmon color and instantly know not to read it

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Bar Ran Dun posted:

plan on years I’m thinking like 5. like it’ll be not terrible as bad as now at some point before that. but years before back to anything “normal” and maybe never.
people are going to have to start clarifying their “normal” in “back to normal”, do you mean pre-2008 crash, or pre-trump, or pre-pandemic?

or maybe they won’t since everything is just ratcheting downwards towards collapse no matter what

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Bar Ran Dun posted:

plan on years I’m thinking like 5. like it’ll be not terrible as bad as now at some point before that. but years before back to anything “normal” and maybe never.

the current is the new normal. it’s like 9/11 where everything goes insanely stupid in response and then never snaps back

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




well yeah I think the trend going forward is less global. international supply chains are probably going to get less predominate and JIT now has a bloody nose and black eye in just about everybody’s minds.

by normal I mean you’ll actually be able to get a container. or you’ll actually get things rather than containers sitting at anchor in ships for months. or drayage companies will actually be able to move something for you without a three + week wait.

the system going back to prepandemic I don’t think that’s coming back.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate
I’ve been working on some trans load projects and warehouses are getting full because of so many disruptions. a container yard I deal with has 500 auto manufacturers containers on lot just sitting there, other warehouses just storing product…

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

TACD posted:

people are going to have to start clarifying their “normal” in “back to normal”, do you mean pre-2008 crash, or pre-trump, or pre-pandemic?

or maybe they won’t since everything is just ratcheting downwards towards collapse no matter what

i want it to be 1997 again

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


the local neighborhood grocery here is being told by their suppliers that they are having trouble getting stuff in because the major grocery chains are stockpiling shelf stable goods in anticipation of price hikes from manufacturers.

cool and good.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

lol

lmao

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
Finally my bean hoard will save me

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




sonatinas posted:

I’ve been working on some trans load projects and warehouses are getting full because of so many disruptions. a container yard I deal with has 500 auto manufacturers containers on lot just sitting there, other warehouses just storing product…

spring time for claims management.

expect to see underwriters withdrawing from offering marine policies.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

euphronius posted:

I see that salmon color and instantly know not to read it

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Shifty Pony posted:

the local neighborhood grocery here is being told by their suppliers that they are having trouble getting stuff in because the major grocery chains are stockpiling shelf stable goods in anticipation of price hikes from manufacturers.

cool and good.

haha those stupid soviets with their shortages and queu-*holds finger to ear piece*

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Shifty Pony posted:

the local neighborhood grocery here is being told by their suppliers that they are having trouble getting stuff in because the major grocery chains are stockpiling shelf stable goods in anticipation of price hikes from manufacturers.

cool and good.
Lol

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

we elected Ol Socialist Joe and in less than a year were running out of food

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

So now that China is stockpiling food and the US free market is doing the same, now everyone will have to do it?

This is how the economy works right?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


I guess it is worth noting that the "manufacturers" in this case are smaller specialty brands because the local neighborhood grocery stocks some fancy poo poo. I guess those are the first that will raise prices tho.

still very lol. hope you've got your small batch artisanal bean hoard!

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
Trumps gonna win

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Casey Finnigan posted:

we'll just expand incarceration rates and prison labor some more. slaves aren't just for wildfires these days!!

IIRC Tyson foods has a pretty sweet deal with Oklahoma where prison labor is funneled into chicken processing plants as a 'diversion' program.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Well the news keeps saying how the farm output is going to be way down this year because of all this climate. So it's probably going to be a bit more than just some specialty brands.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



sullat posted:

IIRC Tyson foods has a pretty sweet deal with Oklahoma where prison labor is funneled into chicken processing plants as a 'diversion' program.

also lots of "rehab" programs there, pretty much every single one that is religiously oriented (tax exempt)

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

anime was right posted:

Trumps gonna win

I'm not gonna predict this because I thought he would win in 2020.

but yeah

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit

GoLambo posted:

gently caress you

i don't care what ohh better not sound mad on the internet level cringe this is genuinely gently caress you, gently caress off. I hope you get mugged you sanctimonious piece of poo poo class traitor.

eat poo poo motherfucker

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Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I'm not gonna predict this because I thought he would win in 2020.

but yeah

trump is going to be president again, but he isn't going to win any elections. many would say trump has been president this whole time

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