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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Angry Salami posted:

And most of the rest turned out to be fakes created by chuds to mock young people.

Incels, NAMBLA et al are fakes cooked up by right wingers? Conservatives were just loving anthromorphic dolls to trigger the libs?

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Bismuth posted:

Speaking of 9/11 I found a 9/11 fanfic on a dragon pet site. Idk if its idiotic but it did make me laugh. Bolding mine

"What is that man doing to his anus?," I thought to myself.
In that moment, I knew what my name would be.
"What is your name?" It was Kristoff's voice calling me back from my vision.
"I am Goatse," I replied, my eyes opening to look up at him.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Panfilo posted:

Incels, NAMBLA et al are fakes cooked up by right wingers? Conservatives were just loving anthromorphic dolls to trigger the libs?

Please try to read the conversation before joining because you look like a real loving moron by posting unrelated things

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Panfilo posted:

Incels, NAMBLA et al are fakes cooked up by right wingers? Conservatives were just loving anthromorphic dolls to trigger the libs?

Things like "oppa homeless style" and other such stories are essentially false and made by one dude who 1) Hates fat people and 2) Is really goddamn right wing.

Also Incels are usually, but not exclusively, a right wing phenomenon.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Are the pedos that try to legitimize their behavior by conflating it with LGBT issues also a purely right wing plant? Because I could see that going either way; bigots that try to delegitimize LGBT groups or people that genuinely think there's nothing unnatural with perving on toddlers and try to appropriate other inclusive groups in the process.

What about the nofap thing, is that another right wing plant?

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
Yes

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Panfilo posted:

Are the pedos that try to legitimize their behavior by conflating it with LGBT issues also a purely right wing plant? Because I could see that going either way; bigots that try to delegitimize LGBT groups or people that genuinely think there's nothing unnatural with perving on toddlers and try to appropriate other inclusive groups in the process.

What about the nofap thing, is that another right wing plant?

It started as a 4chan thing without a doubt (the whole "cloversexual" thing is a clear 4chan reference), but it very well may have pulled in people who weren't in on it. Still, it never really picked up any steam anywhere so I think we can safely say it was just a plant

Also yeah the nofap thing was entirely a weird rightwing obsession with masculinity

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Panfilo posted:

Are the pedos that try to legitimize their behavior by conflating it with LGBT issues also a purely right wing plant? Because I could see that going either way; bigots that try to delegitimize LGBT groups or people that genuinely think there's nothing unnatural with perving on toddlers and try to appropriate other inclusive groups in the process.

What about the nofap thing, is that another right wing plant?

Yes, and yes

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The most famous nofap people are the Proud Boys. It’s not a right wing plant so much as an overt ideological choice.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

the recent right wing plant fad is pretty fuckin nuts y'all

burexas.irom
Oct 29, 2007

I disapprove of what you say, and I will defend your death because you have no right to say it!

Just Asking Questions

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

hawowanlawow posted:

the recent right wing plant fad is pretty fuckin nuts y'all

That loving aloe will never get away with this

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Angry Salami posted:

And most of the rest turned out to be fakes created by chuds to mock young people.

I think the balance of genuine weirdos, most of which were just younger folks (not necessarily teens) trying desperately to find a unique identity in an impossibly crowded social environment, to fake 4channers was very heavy towards the genuine.

Some folks love to point at any particularly stupid progressive/leftist and yell "false flag" and it just makes them sound like a mirror universe Alex Jones. If you don't believe in deeply embarassing leftists, just go to a few local DSA meetings, or hell, post in CSPAM.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Every ideology will have daft people as part of it. However there is a fairly well documented case of 4chan folks pretending to be tumblr folks in order to get other 4chan folks mad.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean realistically deeply embarrassing is something only someone extremely online cares about, and at that point it’s kind of throwing stones in a glass house

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012





Lol the comment section is boomer facebook level.

The pronoun outrage is so drat idiotic. The same people who are usually totally fine with other equally or more inane bullshit like table etiquette, Ms./Mrs. differentiation, HOA rules for what species your lawn can be, etc.

They are literally only against it because it's against the status quo and things can only be good if it's what they were like when their brains turned to mush and started learning.

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Panfilo posted:

Are the pedos that try to legitimize their behavior by conflating it with LGBT issues also a purely right wing plant? Because I could see that going either way; bigots that try to delegitimize LGBT groups or people that genuinely think there's nothing unnatural with perving on toddlers and try to appropriate other inclusive groups in the process.


Pedophiles trying to compare themselves to LGBT+ goes back to at least the 70s with groups like the paedophile information exchange. Sure 4chan made it a 'thing' again but there have been actual groups pushing for this for a long time and some of them definitely believe the stuff they claim.

Mega Comrade has a new favorite as of 14:39 on Jul 23, 2021

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

lobsterminator posted:

Lol the comment section is boomer facebook level.

The pronoun outrage is so drat idiotic. The same people who are usually totally fine with other equally or more inane bullshit like table etiquette, Ms./Mrs. differentiation, HOA rules for what species your lawn can be, etc.

They are literally only against it because it's against the status quo and things can only be good if it's what they were like when their brains turned to mush and started learning.
Not only that, but as I've asked previously, how often is this even relevant in their day to day life? They are acting like it's some huge burden that I doubt a fraction of chuds even have to address.

You are right about the status quo thing. It's less about pronouns themselves and apparently more about who gets the power to dictate them. They don't get to gatekeep pronouns so it gets seen as some threat.

But it's funny how much of an overreaction it is to them.

:smug: "Climate change isn't real. I'm not gonna live in fear of cow farts."

:byodood: "Someone said their pronouns are they/them! Society is collapsing as we speak!"

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Mega Comrade posted:

Pedophiles trying to compare themselves to LGBT+ goes back to at least the 70s with groups like the paedophile information exchange. Sure 4chan made it a 'thing' again but there have been actual groups pushing for this for a long time and some of them are definitely genuine.

I thought the history was that some early gay rights orgs (maybe GLF or something like that?) initially did include pedophiles but had all kicked them out by some point in the 70s. I think it had something to do with being recognized by the UN as human rights orgs, maybe?

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


One More Fat Nerd posted:

I thought the history was that some early gay rights orgs (maybe GLF or something like that?) initially did include pedophiles but had all kicked them out by some point in the 70s. I think it had something to do with being recognized by the UN as human rights orgs, maybe?
That would be ILGBTIA, and it wasn't until 1993 :chloe:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

Mega Comrade posted:

Pedophiles trying to compare themselves to LGBT+ goes back to at least the 70s with groups like the paedophile information exchange. Sure 4chan made it a 'thing' again but there have been actual groups pushing for this for a long time and some of them definitely believe the stuff they claim.

Right. Which kind of supports a hypothesis I have :

People that do bad and unethical things will rationalize the gently caress out of it; parents that beat their children often genuinely believe what they are doing is perfectly normal. They aren't doing it while feeling incredibly guilty in the process, they are putting together a narrative that makes them the reasonable person in that situation. When they get ostracized for what they are doing they will project and act like it's other people that are backwards and intolerant for disagreeing.

A sexual predator has a huge incentive to rationalize their behavior this way. If they can find the tiniest toe hold of legitimacy of their behavior they would gladly take it.

Another challenge with subcultures is maintaining control of the narrative. Maybe adults that like My Little Pony are not in of themselves weird or gross, but the loudest and dominant members of the community happen to be unapologetic sex pests, zoophiles, whatever. The sane members could insist "we aren't all like that" but it's a tough claim to make when their moderators and community organizers are fitting the stereotypes. You can't exactly say that it's a right wing plant at that point, the proof is right there.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Trying to control the narrative is beyond pointless. Trying to justify yourself through the actions of others is doomed to failure

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.



...

What? :confused:

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Shai-Hulud posted:

So im sorry cause i cant keep up with all the poo poo you guys over there are doing but...Nazis tried to storm the capitol and overthrow the government right? And now the government pretty much decided that "Nah were not gonna look into that or investigate it any deeper than possibly prosecuting the people we could easily identify"? That cant' be right can it? Cause that would be pretty loving ridiculous!
The government decided no such thing. The minority party (Republicans) attempted to stop the investigation. The majority party (Democrats) announced there would be an investigation anyway. The Republicans nominated investigation members who were election deniers. The Democrats rejected the deniers. The Republicans took their ball and went home.

There will still be an investigation. It just won't be a "bipartisan" investigation, because the Republicans don't want an investigation at all.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Mega Comrade posted:

Pedophiles trying to compare themselves to LGBT+ goes back to at least the 70s with groups like the paedophile information exchange. Sure 4chan made it a 'thing' again but there have been actual groups pushing for this for a long time and some of them definitely believe the stuff they claim.

To the best of my knowledge every public member of PIE was a Tory, some of them fairly high in the party, so it still feels like a right wing thing?

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Tiggum posted:

...

What? :confused:

Tumblr recently rolled out a premium feature where people can paywall their posts, so that people need a subscription of 3-10usd/mo to see them. They barely clarified this at all, and only rolled the feature out to a handful of handpicked blogs.

Meaning that those people were essentially thrown under the bus to take the brunt of peoples' kneejerk rage at this newest attempt at monetizing the platform.
Because in a vacuum it would seem like a tiiny handful of popular accounts suddenly, overnight started paywalling content.

Honestly though, if they had rolled out this feature 5 years ago, while porn-tumblr was still in full swing they'd probably be ahead of the game, and gotten a lot of support from creators. But all those people got driven away ages ago due to the porn purge.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



lobsterminator posted:

The pronoun outrage is so drat idiotic.

They say they hate pronouns so much, but the moment a piece of plastic removed theirs (but didn’t really) the loons went on a 2 month long cry fest on the daily news about it.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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Henchman of Santa posted:

The most famous nofap people are the Proud Boys. It’s not a right wing plant so much as an overt ideological choice.

The proud boys were a nofap club that accidentally discovered they were all racist and pivoted hard. One of the founding figures (alongside Gavin McIness) was a black comedian named Dante Nero who had a podcast about dating, where he advocated nofap as a way to improve your success getting girls. He eventually distanced himself from them and stopped going to their events when he brought his daughter (?!) to one and they kept calling her the n-word.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
reminder that the proud boys named themseleves after a song from the broadway live action musical of Aladdin.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



PhazonLink posted:

reminder that the proud boys named themseleves after a song from the broadway live action musical of Aladdin.

It doesn't even make any goddamn sense

"Proud of Your Boy" isn't even the same grammatical framing

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
doing a quick search engine search / wikiepdia lookup to confirm my fact, huh apparently the have black and white flag, its a cock facing left standing on an arrow with a W?

if your not a chicken farmer or biz, why would you chose a chicken for your flag

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004
Reminds me of police supporters using the Punisher symbol, except the Punisher hates police.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

PhazonLink posted:

doing a quick search engine search / wikiepdia lookup to confirm my fact, huh apparently the have black and white flag, its a cock facing left standing on an arrow with a W?

if your not a chicken farmer or biz, why would you chose a chicken for your flag

Are you sitting here telling me that you have never seen a weather vane?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
oh is that what it is.

also, no, not in this part of the country. kinda want to make a quip about new england, but dont know if my geographyic bubble is weird.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

PhazonLink posted:

oh is that what it is.

also, no, not in this part of the country. kinda want to make a quip about new england, but dont know if my geographyic bubble is weird.

I have never seen a real one in 40+ years of life, but they are all over old cartoons and old photos of farm buildings

Darkhold
Feb 19, 2011

No Heart❤️
No Soul👻
No Service🙅

Data Graham posted:

It doesn't even make any goddamn sense

"Proud of Your Boy" isn't even the same grammatical framing
IIRC it was because Gavin was offended that in that song a boy was seeking a :females: approval they should be proud of just being so super hyper masculine manly men.

So (already) Proud Boys

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Worth noting that expecting the group that initiated you by beating the poo poo out of you while you recite brand name cereals to make sense is maybe a fools errand

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Pancho Jueves
Aug 20, 2007

BEST FRIENDS!!
The Cleveland Indians announced they are changing their name to the Guardians, and fans of the old racist name are predictably butthurt:

https://twitter.com/ShawnHils/status/1418580172689784838

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