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Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
Here is the list of candidates.

https://ballotpedia.org/Gavin_Newsom_recall,_Governor_of_California_(2019-2021)

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

lmao that Gavin is going to be successfully recalled because he didn't file in time to be on the democrat ballot.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
From what I can tell all of the (D) candidates running are nobody crazies, let's just pull one out of a hat:



Survey Questions posted:

Paffrath came to California with $1,000 at 17 years old. While working at Jamba Juice & Red Robin, he attended Buena High & Ventura College before graduating UCLA. Paffrath became a Realtor & bought his first home and later numerous rental homes. He later became a real estate broker & is now a self-made millionaire with a net worth of over $20 million. He shares his knowledge through YouTube. Now, Kevin understands why people are fleeing California. Taxes are too high. Homelessness is endemic. Housing affordability is at an all-time low. And, our schools are failing our citizens.

Please list below 3 key messages of your campaign. What are the main points you want voters to remember about your goals for your time in office?

Remove the CA State Income Tax on the first $250,000 of income
Solve the Homelessness Crisis
Completely Overhaul Education by Creating Future Schools

What areas of public policy are you personally passionate about?

Kevin Paffrath is passionate about investing in education, increasing affordable housing, and solving the homeless crisis in California.

One my first day, I will issue four states of emergency.

1.) State of Emergency: Ending Homelessness within 60 days.
2.) State of Emergency: Housing Crisis: State to Take Over ALL Building and Safety/ Development for Expediting Building Permits IMMEDIATELY.
3.) State of Emergency: Creating Future Schools to immediately provide a free path to financial, vocational, high school, and college education in ONE platform.
4.) State of Emergency: Transportation: Immediately authorizing and requiring private proposals for tunnels, variable toll roads, mass transit, roads, and ending High-Speed-Rail Funding.

What do you love most about your state?


That Gavin Newsom won't be governor come November.

Tell us your favorite joke.

Gavin Newsom

:hmmyes: I agree :airquote: self-made :airquote: youtube multi-millionaire man: homelessness, the lack of affordable housing, school funding, and lack of transportation infrastructure beyond roads are all major issues facing the state. And clearly the answer to resolving all these issues is... get rid of all income tax below $250K, and shutter HSR. Wait...

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
This whiny bitch I knew from College apparently decided to run in this recall as well (he was some Ben Shapiro-like Republican in the Davis recall) but this time he's got a D next to his name.

Motherfucker watched Fox News like it was manna from heaven. What a fucksad existence of constantly craving validation.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



FilthyImp posted:

This whiny bitch I knew from College apparently decided to run in this recall as well (he was some Ben Shapiro-like Republican in the Davis recall) but this time he's got a D next to his name.

Motherfucker watched Fox News like it was manna from heaven. What a fucksad existence of constantly craving validation.

pst that's what republicans do to get elected in california, change parties and keeping acting like republicans

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
In a previous state rep election I noticed that it was the exact two candidates as the last election, but instead of D vs R they were now both listed as D's. Looked up the former GOP guy and sure enough they had not changed their policy stance whatsoever. However their last name was higher up in the Alphabet so I guess they were hoping being the first listed (D) would let them win. They got more votes than last time but still lost handily.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Sydin posted:

What do you love most about your state?

That Gavin Newsom won't be governor come November.

Tell us your favorite joke.

Gavin Newsom

tbf, this is pretty hilarious

Seph
Jul 12, 2004

Please look at this photo every time you support or defend war crimes. Thank you.

sb hermit posted:

it just feels like a potential 2016 all over again and I'm just sooooo tired

It would certainly be bad if Newsom was recalled, but it would be nowhere near 2016 levels of bad. If he got recalled, his replacement would only serve a year before the 2022 election where a Democrat would almost certainly win. There would also be a Democrat supermajority in both chambers of the state legislature that could override any veto from the new governor. So the damage would be contained to executive actions that could easily be undone once they are voted out in 2022.

Canasta_Nasty
Aug 23, 2005

redreader posted:

Are there any actually-good far left candidates that I can get excited about, see massive popular support for, then see defeated somehow anyway? Or is it just Newsom vs a bunch of republican candidates?

Ask me anything about being a socialist on the ballot

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/24/moor-j24.html

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

DoomTrainPhD posted:

lmao that Gavin is going to be successfully recalled because he didn't file in time to be on the democrat ballot.

it's meaningless. why would anyone vote yes on question one but then also vote for gavin on question two?

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




FCKGW posted:

it's meaningless. why would anyone vote yes on question one but then also vote for gavin on question two?

If 49% of people vote not to recall on question 1 and Gavin on question 2, and 51% of people vote to recall on question 1 and split their vote for all sorts of crazies on question 2, then Gavin could win on question 2.

E: thought I was responding to a hypothetical where Gavin could be a choice on question 2. In reality, I don't think that is possible. The democrat thing is that Gavin won't have a (D) next to his name on the ballot at all because he missed a filing deadline.

VikingofRock fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jul 24, 2021

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

FCKGW posted:

it's meaningless. why would anyone vote yes on question one but then also vote for gavin on question two?

You can't run to replace yourself. It's against the law.

quote:

11381 (c) No person whose recall is being sought may be a candidate to succeed himself or herself at a recall election nor to succeed any other member of the same governing board whose recall is being sought at the same election.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

VikingofRock posted:

The democrat thing is that Gavin won't have a (D) next to his name on the ballot at all because he missed a filing deadline.

That's pretty funny and I wouldn't be surprised if it loses him a few votes from confused people, but I don't think it's going to be a big deal. Of course it does show that the Dems aren't taking this at all seriously, and we've seen what can happen when they think they have things in the bag.

edit: quote and edit are different buttons, I have discovered via this doublepost

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Seph posted:

It would certainly be bad if Newsom was recalled, but it would be nowhere near 2016 levels of bad. If he got recalled, his replacement would only serve a year before the 2022 election where a Democrat would almost certainly win. There would also be a Democrat supermajority in both chambers of the state legislature that could override any veto from the new governor. So the damage would be contained to executive actions that could easily be undone once they are voted out in 2022.

You're right. It won't be 2016 levels of bad, but the self own would be pretty funny and there's no telling how much a republican governor would grind the gears of governance to a halt, crippling the economy. And then they would blame the high income tax and seek to further reduce property taxes and solve the homelessness problem by simply making it illegal.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Canasta_Nasty posted:

Ask me anything about being a socialist on the ballot

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/24/moor-j24.html

Wait is this actually you because I will 100% vote for a socialist sped teacher, sped teachers should absolutely run the world lmao

Like I’ll still say “no” to the recall but I’ll vote this dude on question 2

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Hawkperson posted:

Wait is this actually you because I will 100% vote for a socialist sped teacher, sped teachers should absolutely run the world lmao

Like I’ll still say “no” to the recall but I’ll vote this dude on question 2
Yea, if this is real I'll campaign or do phone banks for you

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Please let the GOP cartoon heads turn this guy into a soviet premier photoshop

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Please let the GOP cartoon heads turn this guy into a soviet premier photoshop
Calling fox news to complain about this guy is probably the best campaign you could give him.

Canasta_Nasty
Aug 23, 2005

Hawkperson posted:

Wait is this actually you because I will 100% vote for a socialist sped teacher, sped teachers should absolutely run the world lmao

Like I’ll still say “no” to the recall but I’ll vote this dude on question 2

This is totally me and I'm actually calling on people to vote no on the recall but vote for me on question 2. If you want to get involved sign up at the link in there and donate money as I need everything I can get.

My first campaign stop is tomorrow morning in Oakland talking to some autoworkers both former NUMMI and hopefully some current Tesla from the Fremont plant.

edit: It's a little bare bones but my campaign site is socialism2021.com

Canasta_Nasty fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 24, 2021

Canasta_Nasty
Aug 23, 2005

eSporks posted:

Calling fox news to complain about this guy is probably the best campaign you could give him.

I've already received several candidate questionnaires from absurdly far-right groups. The Orange County Pro-Family Candidate Campaign wants to know

quote:

4. Do you maintain that marriage is only between one man and one woman? ____ Yes ____ No

5. Do you accept that our nation is founded on Judeo-Christian principles? ____ Yes ____ No

6. Do you believe the Constitution should be interpreted according to original intent rather than as a
“living document” that is subject to varying interpretation over time? ____ Yes ____ No

7. Do you oppose the practice of sharia law? ____ Yes ____ No

8. Do you oppose the use of tax monies for abortions and abortion referrals? ____ Yes ____ No

9. Do you oppose legalization of physician assisted suicide and euthanasia? ____ Yes ____ No

10. Would you ever vote for, support or endorse a candidate for public office who embraces a
pro-abortion (pro-choice) public policy position? ____ Yes ____ No

11. Should police departments be defunded? ____ Yes ____ No

They are barking up the wrongest tree for this

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Canasta_Nasty posted:

I need everything I can get.
So do I!

I can't donate at all, but I am 100% serious about helping out with time. I signed up for the newsletter, if there is something you need let me know. I'll spread the word to some friends too.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Canasta_Nasty posted:

I've already received several candidate questionnaires from absurdly far-right groups. The Orange County Pro-Family Candidate Campaign wants to know

They are barking up the wrongest tree for this


"The Jews will not replace us" _____Yes ____No

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
I can't wait for wannabe Josh Hawley of Placer County Chud Fundy Teabaggrunt Kiley to win you goddamned dipshits. :jerkbag:

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Keyser_Soze posted:

I can't wait for wannabe Josh Hawley of Placer County Chud Fundy Teabaggrunt Kiley to win you goddamned dipshits. :jerkbag:
I don't think anyone is voting Yes on the recall, its not a bad idea to actually have a horse in the race for option B. I don't think a socialist is at risk of stirring up the R voters into showing up any more than Gavin Is. As far as most R voters go, Gavin's biography and agenda doesn't read much different from Moore's.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Canasta_Nasty posted:

This is totally me and I'm actually calling on people to vote no on the recall but vote for me on question 2. If you want to get involved sign up at the link in there and donate money as I need everything I can get.

My first campaign stop is tomorrow morning in Oakland talking to some autoworkers both former NUMMI and hopefully some current Tesla from the Fremont plant.

edit: It's a little bare bones but my campaign site is socialism2021.com

Ok, well, I signed up for your mailing list and I'll totes throw you a few dollars at the start of the month. Also you should come hang in the SAL teacher thread, I can never decide if ppl just don't like our vibe or don't realize there's a K-12 thread in there but I'm guessing it's probably the second lol. Good luck and definitely scribble "HAIL SATAN" on that OC survey and mail it back.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Canasta_Nasty posted:

Ask me anything about being a socialist on the ballot

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/24/moor-j24.html

A Trot, huh? Well I'd definitely love to pick your brain.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Canasta_Nasty
Aug 23, 2005

fermun posted:

A Trot, huh? Well I'd definitely love to pick your brain.

Given that I'm running for office as a socialist in an area where there are fascists talking about killing all communists, I'll kindly ask that you not "joke" about wanting to murder me.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Sydin posted:

It was a joint poll conducted by "Inside California Politics" which is the politics desk of Sacramento-based local news outfit KTXL and Emerson. And like I said the poll is nowhere to be found on Emerson's site. :shrug: I do not live in Sacramento and have never watched this station so I don't know what their blatant political leanings (if any) are, but just peaking at the politics section on their website it is nothing but nonstop articles about the recall, and how Larry Elder has a real shot to unseat Newsom (:lol:) so I can kinda infer here.

idk, again it's entirely possible this poll is legit and Newsom is in serious trouble because people are pissed about the fires and the drought, but it's raising a lot of red flags.
It looks like they finally uploaded the poll, if anyone wants to take a closer look:
https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/california-voters-split-on-recalling-governor-newsom

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Canasta_Nasty posted:

This is totally me and I'm actually calling on people to vote no on the recall but vote for me on question 2.
See this guy gets how to do their campaign. Congrats on the start of your campaign!

I don't know how to convey it exactly, but from the few people I've talked to they didn't seem to immediately understand that by not voting on Question 2 (since the Democratic Party is not running anyone in Question 2), they're ceding their question 2 vote to those who want the Recall to happen. It's like they're giving away their life raft before the sinking of The Titanic believing that The Titanic will never sink. If you have an easy way to convey that, then I think you'll find many more votes for you from those people voting No on Question 1.

sb hermit posted:

You're right. It won't be 2016 levels of bad, but the self own would be pretty funny and there's no telling how much a republican governor would grind the gears of governance to a halt, crippling the economy. And then they would blame the high income tax and seek to further reduce property taxes and solve the homelessness problem by simply making it illegal.
I haven't really given a lot of thought about the outcome more than the recall circus itself. Giving it some thought though... it's very true that if Gavin was ousted his successor would have their hands tied legislatively and even executively in in many cases (Due to many executive positions being elected)... however... imagine if Question 1 succeeded in ousting Governor Newsom, and the majority of those voting No to the Recall hadn't selected a candidate, while those voting Yes voted primarily for Larry Elder, who was leading in the aforementioned poll...

...the people will have elected Larry Elder, a Republican, as the first person of color to be elected Governor of California since it became a state in 1850, reviving a demoralized CA GOP, putting a hubris-laden CA DEM into total chaos, and embarrassing the national Democratic Party as media outlets spin endless clickbait articles on what this means for the 2022 mid-terms, and that California "might be in play" for 2024 presidential election (Super unlikely! But they'll write the articles!). There would be political implications beyond Gavbot's career.

It would also be very funny and the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm would be very appropriate.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Canasta_Nasty posted:

Given that I'm running for office as a socialist in an area where there are fascists talking about killing all communists, I'll kindly ask that you not "joke" about wanting to murder me.

Are there any areas where that's not the case? Maybe China or Vietnam?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

BeAuMaN posted:

It looks like they finally uploaded the poll, if anyone wants to take a closer look:
https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/california-voters-split-on-recalling-governor-newsom

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. And while the headlines coming out are still a bit hyperbolic, there are some troubling deeper numbers:

quote:

Independent voters are breaking in favor of recalling Newsom, at 54%. Hispanic voters are also slightly in favor of the recall, 48% to 44%. Regionally, support for recalling Newsom is highest in Northern California (52% to recall), Central California (55% to recall), and Southern California (48% to recall).

Support for keeping Newsom in office is highest among Democrats (75% to keep), Black Californians (70% to keep), and those with a college degree (56% to keep). Regionally, Newsom has the most support to stay in office among voters in the Bay Area (58% to keep), and Los Angeles (53% to keep).

The regional divides aren't surprising, although Newsom should be sweating at the Hispanic vote slightly breaking for recall, and that he only pulled 53% to keep in LA of all places.

And then there's this nugget:

quote:

On the question of who they would vote for if Newsom was recalled, a majority (53%) of voters are undecided on a candidate.

Which really just punctuates how loving stupid it was for the CA DNC to decide not to run or endorse any backup candidate for the recall.

Canasta_Nasty
Aug 23, 2005

Hawkperson posted:

Ok, well, I signed up for your mailing list and I'll totes throw you a few dollars at the start of the month. Also you should come hang in the SAL teacher thread, I can never decide if ppl just don't like our vibe or don't realize there's a K-12 thread in there but I'm guessing it's probably the second lol. Good luck and definitely scribble "HAIL SATAN" on that OC survey and mail it back.

Thanks! We'll be in touch about the campaign.

As for the teachers thread I'll take a look. I know for me at least, work can get so intense I've only survived by leaving it in the classroom. Outside of my political work I've tended to avoid teacher things beyond work hours.

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Are there any areas where that's not the case? Maybe China or Vietnam?

I was gilding the lily a bit. A good rule of thumb is that telling an internet stranger you want to murder them is not going to actually be funny. The rumblings of neo-Nazis across the globe just emphasizes the problem. Anyways, looks like the mods took care of it so I'm happy letting it drop.

Dr. Video Games 0069
Jan 1, 2006

nice dolphin, nigga

Sydin posted:

Regionally, support for recalling Newsom is highest in Northern California (52% to recall), Central California (55% to recall), and Southern California (48% to recall).

Whoa, that's all the Californias!

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Wanna see how they defined Northern/Central/Southern. Remembering a survey where everyone thought Northern California started wherever they lived and anything south of that was Central. Had people in Redding saying anything south of them was Central and people in Monterey saying they were definitely in NorCal.

They also have a section where they ask people the most important issue facing California and they let people give their own responses if they picked other. Some fun ones I saw:

quote:

Capitalist servitude to Mammon

quote:

Globalist totalitarian Marxist agenda being imposed on caif which includes all the aforementioned issues plus illegal immigration & visa workers

quote:

Landlord unable to evict and raise rent do to moratorium

quote:

out of wedlock pregnancy

quote:

Take care of the working class , get rid of sanitary city’s and states , cut stupid taxes ,take care of the Americans not illegal aliens , he is a socailest and a control freak like his aunt men like him are are bad people for this country’s healing he is a racist color should not make a difference including white

And my favorite:

quote:

Critical Race Theory

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


I assume by "Central California" they mean inland California. :colbert:

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Everything north of SLO is Northern California, everything south of SLO is Southern California, and everything east of SLO is Central California :ca:

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe
Very curious who's posting these signs that say GOP but the O is the hammer and sickle on East Bay highways. What political stance is that, ultra-Trumpism?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



SuperKlaus posted:

Very curious who's posting these signs that say GOP but the O is the hammer and sickle on East Bay highways. What political stance is that, ultra-Trumpism?

rachel maddowism

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

SuperKlaus posted:

Very curious who's posting these signs that say GOP but the O is the hammer and sickle on East Bay highways. What political stance is that, ultra-Trumpism?

Shear Modulus posted:

rachel maddowism
Someone else asked about that in TFR California chat, and this is apparently the culprit. Shear is correct.
https://twitter.com/maddogpac/status/1009562116238598145

Sydin posted:

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. And while the headlines coming out are still a bit hyperbolic, there are some troubling deeper numbers:

The regional divides aren't surprising, although Newsom should be sweating at the Hispanic vote slightly breaking for recall, and that he only pulled 53% to keep in LA of all places.

And then there's this nugget:
Yeah, those are all good points, especially that last takeaway

Sydin posted:

Which really just punctuates how loving stupid it was for the CA DNC to decide not to run or endorse any backup candidate for the recall.

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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
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quote:

A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.

Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine.

"Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.

He was treated for pneumonia and Covid-19 in a hospital outside Los Angeles, where he died on Wednesday.

In the days leading up to his death, Mr Harmon documented his fight to stay alive, posting pictures of himself in his hospital bed.

"Please pray y'all, they really want to intubate me and put me on a ventilator," he said.

In his final tweet on Wednesday, Mr Harmon said he had decided to go under intubation.

"Don't know when I'll wake up, please pray," he wrote.

Despite his struggle with the virus, Mr Harmon still said he would reject being jabbed, saying his religious faith would protect him.

Why is the US falling behind with its vaccinations?

Twitter suspends US congresswoman over Covid posts

Prior to his death, had joked about the pandemic and vaccines, sharing memes saying he trusted the Bible over top US disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci.

Hillsong founder Brian Houston confirmed news of his death in a tweet on Thursday.

"Ben has just passed on to us the devastating news that our beloved friend, Stephen Harmon has passed away from Covid. Heartbreaking," Mr Houston said.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRnkbZ4MTsn/

In an Instagram post, he paid tribute to Mr Harmon.

"He was one of the most generous people I know and he had so much in front of him," he wrote on Instagram.

"He would always turn up to our grandkids soccer games and he will be missed by so many. RIP."

He added that the church encourages its members "to follow the guidance of their doctors".

California has seen a rise in Covid-19 cases in recent weeks, with the majority of those being taken to hospital unvaccinated.

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