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Darchangel posted:Right now, the battery capacity is the issue. Even in a small/lightweight car, you end up with a lot of weight in battery, more so than a modern ICE of comparable performance. Basically, even a small EV is a bit of a porker with current battery tech. It's coming, of course, but no clue when - EVs have been waiting on batteries for 50 years or better, now... Even just a bit of a sidestep idea like using clusters of small Lithium batteries rather than monolithic larger lead acid or Nickel metal hydride might make a difference. I certainly wouldnt have thought a cluster of lithium laptop batteries would have been a workable - and successful - solution but yet here we are and EV's are rushing into the mainstream as a result. Just rewind to 2011 here and no one would have believed that lovely Tesla Roadster we all laughed at on Top Gear was about to lead to the Model S - and that's turned out to be the 21st century's car industry turning point to the direction of EV's and what they are. I kinda think Lithium wont be the long term battery solution but it's def good enough while someone works out the next step.
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Reading science stuff about sodium ion battery technology makes it seem like not as much performance and capacity, but vastly cheaper and easier build than lithium ion. Which kinda sounds to me like the ideal thing for commuter cars and grocery getters, where who cares about weight, performance, and overall maximum range, when cheap and safe are the most important factors. So in a hypothetical future, you might get loads of sodium based economy cars, and the lithium stuff will be reserved for the high performance, high power, expensive luxury cars.
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20 years from now: "Lithium swap ALL THE THINGS!" When all cars are electric, are the special effects people going to revise what cars look like when they explode in movies?
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New Fiat vid is up now I'm in the correct thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6OKgREcHFM
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um excuse me posted:Individually cased cylindrical batteries seems like a terrible way to build a battery pack if lightweight is the goal, but I'm not going to assume I know more than the engineers who are pushing these cars out with this configuration. Yeah, it's mainly an issue with the chemistry tending to be safer using a shitload of 18650 cells versus the pouch cells. Think laptop batteries, and how few puff issues there were when they still used the individual cells. Of course, they were larger and more awkward, too. I guess they got the pouched cells good enough, since that what most of the EVs are using, right? I'd drive that for sure. boxen posted:20 years from now: "Lithium swap ALL THE THINGS!" Nah. Movies are already wrong about gas cars exploding, so why bother?
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Darchangel posted:Yeah, it's mainly an issue with the chemistry tending to be safer using a shitload of 18650 cells versus the pouch cells. Think laptop batteries, and how few puff issues there were when they still used the individual cells. Of course, they were larger and more awkward, too. Always bothers me about Terminator 2 and the tow truck/dirt bike/canal scene.
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Jul 28, 2021 00:47
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Darchangel posted:Yeah, it's mainly an issue with the chemistry tending to be safer using a shitload of 18650 cells versus the pouch cells. Think laptop batteries, and how few puff issues there were when they still used the individual cells. Of course, they were larger and more awkward, too. Don't the cells basically expand during charging or use. Easier to contain the pressure with 18650. That's true about the movies, but there's no reason you couldn't make the explosions wrong in new and exciting ways. You could make the explosion... blue?
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Saukkis posted:That's true about the movies, but there's no reason you couldn't make the explosions wrong in new and exciting ways. You could make the explosion... blue? Just make it look like an immortal was killed on the way to there being only one.
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Jul 28, 2021 01:03
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 I saw a suspicious vampire in the wild!
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Jul 28, 2021 03:00
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27k original miles on the body with a supercharged LS3 swap hot drat
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KakerMix posted:Always bothers me about Terminator 2 and the tow truck/dirt bike/canal scene. I watched Last Crusade recently and it's absolutely full of ridiculous effects that I never noticed as a kid, but the boat exploding because it gets squished is particularly over-the-top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG1vn39lP3M&t=36s
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Memento posted:27k original miles on the body with a supercharged LS3 swap I'm not a fan of the rims, and although I'm sure the LS swap is much more reliable, faster, probably better on fuel etc.... I want one with a 460. 
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I like it! https://i.imgur.com/mFtey3G.mp4
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StormDrain posted:
Guy chose the vampire over his wife. Ex-wife must have really been bleeding him dry.
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Memento posted:27k original miles on the body with a supercharged LS3 swap Absolutely would. AmbassadorofSodomy posted:I'm not a fan of the rims, and although I'm sure the LS swap is much more reliable, faster, probably better on fuel etc.... I want one with a 460. The wheels are OK with that particular car, but I'd agree on the engine as long as it's built, modernized, and EFI. The smogger original was embarrassing. So the new Bronco has a live axle? Interesting. I hadn't noticed that until now.
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Darchangel posted:So the new Bronco has a live axle? Interesting. I hadn't noticed that until now. Solid rear, independent front.
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I didn't get caught up in the Bronco hype until I saw this.
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Can't wait for all the denied warranty claims on Broncos just like the Raptors from people seeing this and doing it
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I still remember that video of someone bending their Raptor in half doing a jump with it. It makes me smile.
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Perfect for wafting about like you would in an original DS... https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/355650/electrogenic-reveals-electric-citroen-ds-conversion-200-mile-range quote:Based on a 1971 example of the iconic Bertoni designed Citroen saloon, the company has created what it claims to be the world’s first professionally converted DS running on electric power only. The car’s original 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol engine has been replaced by a 120bhp electric motor developing 235kW torque. Like other classics converted by the company, it still sends its power to the wheels (the front wheels in the case of the DS) through the car’s original manual gearbox. A battery 48.5kWh in capacity has been packaged in, which the brand says offers a real-world range of around 140 miles on a single charge.    
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Perfect for wafting about like you would in an original DS... THIS is what I'm talkinga bout. EVs don't have to be stupid Blinkenlights with touchscreen tech-disrupting bullshit. Still...would like more range with that comes with the amazing torque.
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gently caress knows, their Instagram says it uses their hyper 9 motor, which gives 120bhp /173 ft lbs. Perfectly adequate on that chassis. Good conversion, great to see.
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Humphreys posted:THIS is what I'm talkinga bout. EVs don't have to be stupid Blinkenlights with touchscreen tech-disrupting bullshit. Still...would like more range with that comes with the amazing torque. Oh yeah, I'm very excited to see what The Drive reporter does with this https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/41363/1993-renault-twingo-review-i-bought-the-happiest-car-on-the-planet  The Drive posted:I was pretty upfront that my plan was (and still is) to convert her to an electric drivetrain. At 28 years old and with her original engine, she's sadly completely non-compliant for any emissions regulations and there's not much point in having a city car you can't drive in London, especially when you live there. But my intention in doing that is to give her at least another 30 years of very beloved life because it's impossible to look at this car without smiling and just sitting in her is a pure delight.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Perfect for wafting about like you would in an original DS... I'm the filthy original windshield washer reservoir. I love swaps like this and with prices slowly coming down it's becoming more of a reality. While I do love the sound of many old cars I'd also like to daily drive one without concern of whether it will start or need work every other weekend. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Perfect for wafting about like you would in an original DS... I fuuucking love seeing swaps like this. Classics getting turned into EVs is something I hope becomes mainstream in the coming years. Classic style, quiet efficient modern power.
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cursedshitbox posted:I fuuucking love seeing swaps like this. Classics getting turned into EVs is something I hope becomes mainstream in the coming years. Classic style, quiet efficient modern power. Has anyone EV swapped a proper lowrider yet? Seems like you could simplify the hydraulic system quite a bit since you wouldn't need the massive bank of deep cycle 12V's for the pumps.
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cursedshitbox posted:I fuuucking love seeing swaps like this. Classics getting turned into EVs is something I hope becomes mainstream in the coming years. Classic style, quiet efficient modern power. This is the future Gattaca predicted. Now to bring on the dystopian genetic discrimination 
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ElBrak posted:I still remember that video of someone bending their Raptor in half doing a jump with it. It makes me smile. Never don't smile at this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU
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Goddamn that thing hit hard hahahaha. What a bunch of jabronies.
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Godholio posted:Never don't smile at this. Ow! My freakin' spine!
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I know it's the common question to ask, but what the gently caress did they think was going to happen? The best case for that would have been for there to be a landing ramp and calculated speeds to ensure you hit it. Just going balls out to land flat? How does anyone think "yeah, my truck will totally have this"?
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AFewBricksShy posted:I know it's the common question to ask, but what the gently caress did they think was going to happen? The best case for that would have been for there to be a landing ramp and calculated speeds to ensure you hit it. Just going balls out to land flat? How does anyone think "yeah, my truck will totally have this"? Have you considered: Rednecks.
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It works on the tee vee! Them Duke boys do it all the time! Full send!
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Also, gently caress yeah the crowd is going to cheer. It’s not their money or spine!
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Advent Horizon posted:Also, gently caress yeah the crowd is going to cheer. It’s not their money or spine!
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Perfect for wafting about like you would in an original DS... Kudos for them keeping the hydro-pneumatic suspension. Mcqueen posted:Goddamn that thing hit hard hahahaha. What a bunch of jabronies. I am not surprised to see Texas inspection and reg stickers. AFewBricksShy posted:I know it's the common question to ask, but what the gently caress did they think was going to happen? I ask myself that every time I see the video. They believed the hype that Ford built them a factory Baja 1000 race truck, see?
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Darchangel posted:I ask myself that every time I see the video. I'm not going to pretend to understand Baja and off-road racing, but isn't the Raptor technically supposed to be a "pre-runner", which, as I understand it, would drive a course much more slowly and map out obstacles and stuff? Someone who understands this, please add details.
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MetaJew posted:I'm not going to pretend to understand Baja and off-road racing, but isn't the Raptor technically supposed to be a "pre-runner", which, as I understand it, would drive a course much more slowly and map out obstacles and stuff? Same people that think you can take a factory Corvette Z06 out to the track and thrash on it all day without issues
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