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College Rockout posted:The fight was one sided enough that I don't really have much interest in a rematch and I'd much rather have Yan vs TJ instead. Aljo has been pretty cringey with how he’s been handling the whole thing, and it also seems to have sent Yan completely over the edge, so I’m pretty excited to see Yan execute Aljo before the TJ fight.
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Yea it's surprising how bad he's been about this considering how well he handled it immediately post-fight. He really didn't look like he wanted the belt when Buffer announced him as the winner and in the incredibly medically irresponsible post-fight interview he kept on saying that wasn't the way he wanted to win. Recently brain-damaged Aljo has more self-awareness than regular Aljo . Yan going full Ivan Drago for the rematch is a fun angle at least.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 16:31 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It was stupid of Yan and he should have known the rules to not throw it. He knew the rules been in ufc since 2018, just hosed up is all i agree with the thought that he may have expected aljo to stand up right then, just didn't wait until he could be sure or his corner hosed up and said it was good to throw
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 18:47 |
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CommonShore posted:This and the Eddie Alvarez dq led me to my unpopular theory that remaining in a position like that, where you're basically offering illegal strikes and you're only being protected by the rules, should count as grounds for TKO. I have always claimed that if you give up your back while mounted you should be disqualified.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 19:19 |
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I mean, the entire MMA world decided Aljo was a stupid lovely faking loser who sucks the literal moment he decided he couldn't continue, including Yan, so at a certain point why would you try to play it off nicely when everyone including the dude whose fault it is that you have the belt has already made up their mind
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 19:22 |
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david carmichael posted:I have always claimed that if you give up your back while mounted you should be disqualified. long time no see! Nah I'm more talking about those spots where all someone is doing is exposing the back of their head and not trying to improve their position: hanging out in a spot where the threat of a DQ is all that's keeping them from taking a life-altering blow to the dome. Most people who lay there with someone on their back without trying to improve their position or get out get TKOed anyway. It's not the being in the position that annoys me, it's when fighters jut stay there.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 20:12 |
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I think if you present your back to your opponent during a fight, at any point in time for any reason, it should be registered as a submission and you should have to give your opponent livestock as penance
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 20:42 |
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no one saw this one coming https://twitter.com/ryanmckinnell/status/1420424255242522629?s=21
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 20:52 |
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if i put myself into a guillotine and i dont know how to get out, it's your fault if i jab my grubby lil gremlin claws in your eyes to try and escape, that's just fair
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double negative posted:no one saw this one coming I don't know much about Weidman's habits outside the ring. He's always come off pretty disciplined with training. Is this implying he messed up his PT/recovery somehow?
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CarlCX posted:I mean, the entire MMA world decided Aljo was a stupid lovely faking loser who sucks the literal moment he decided he couldn't continue, including Yan, so at a certain point why would you try to play it off nicely when everyone including the dude whose fault it is that you have the belt has already made up their mind This is a good point and I think the reasonableness of this community has warped my perspective a bit. I appreciate that the only issue people here had was that the ref didn't stop the fight immediately and kept asking Aljo how he was doing even though he physically couldn't stand up without stumbling.
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 21:25 |
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kimbo305 posted:I don't know much about Weidman's habits outside the ring. He's always come off pretty disciplined with training. He is historically very injury prone, in and out of the cage.
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LobsterMobster posted:if i put myself into a guillotine and i dont know how to get out, it's your fault if i jab my grubby lil gremlin claws in your eyes to try and escape, that's just fair What's the correct escape for a self-gogoplata
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 21:28 |
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kimbo305 posted:I don't know much about Weidman's habits outside the ring. He's always come off pretty disciplined with training. i was kinda following him as he was documenting his recovery/return, and his PT seemed hosed up from the jump to me and my non-doctor eyes, with him getting back to running and then training extremely quickly. on the subject of injury, suarez’s situation makes me sad too
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 21:33 |
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The Ultimate Fighter recap! Episode 9: Clocked Things are all tied up going into the semi-finals, baby! Both Volko and Ortega lost their #1 bantamweight picks, so that's fun! Bryan Battle and Ricky Turcios are ~V I B E B R O S~, hanging out by the pool, talking about life and whatnot. We move to Team Ortega's morning practice session, and there's, uh, no Coaches from Team Ortega. One of the fighters says "You know they won't be here for another 40", so I guess T-City is a municipal district without a single clock. Rettinghouse says "we just learned to deal with it" As a prank, Volko stuffs the Ortega locker room with clocks and put "Ortega Time: Better Late Than Never" posters up. Ortega is adamant that the prank is not good and also lame. Liudvik likes Ricky and his crazy style. Volko says Ricky is a weird and also cool dude. Ricky wants to stay behind his jab, a theory that could put him among the smartest MMA strikers in a long time. Ricky's key for his victory is to be unpredictable in the cage. Dana says because the fights have been so good (they honestly have), he is going to give the semi-finalists a reward: a call home, you know, like if they were prisoners. Liudvik is very appreciative seeing his family again, noting that it doesn't matter if he wins or lose, these are the people who have been with him from the beginning, and will be with him until the end. Liudvik asks what's going in the world, and his friends say Elon Musk populated Mars. Fun times with the Sholinians! Ricky calls his dad in El Salvador, and they reconnect in a very touching manner. Ricky's dad says he's been sending his son good vibes and energy every day, so that's where Ricky gets it from. They end the call with both men double bicep flexing, shouting LET'S GO to each other. Hell yeah, baby! Both guys make weight with no issues. Kemran calls this potentially the fight of the season. Today's The Ultimate Fighter Flashback, presented by Toyo Tires (Remember when it came out that UFC was going to reward whoever got KO, submission, and Fight of the Year a new set of Toyo tires, and that's it, that's all they received as a bonus?) is Jon Gunther from season 27, Cormier vs Miocic. Gunther is the weirdo who shears alpacas for a living. Isn't it wacky to be involved in such a profession?? Gunther got choked unconscious almost instantly in his first fight. Wacky! Uh, anyway, it's fight day. We got 20+ minutes left on this one, so expect a 3-rounder, friends. (Oh, the semi-finals are already set for 3 rounds. Well, don't expect sudden victory, then) Tale of the Tape Ricky Turcios Age: 27 Height: 5'9" Weight: 135.00lbs Reach: 72" Liudvik Sholinian Age: 31 Height: 5'8" Weight: 135.50lbs Reach: 70" Round 1 Ricky trying his yell "ablooga blooga" technique to draw out feints, to no reaction from Liudvick. Both guys throwing single shots, jabs and low kicks. Ricky rushes in with a combo, misses everything but the last strike, a nice body kick. Ricky pops Liudvik coming forward with a solid jab. Both guys getting a little brawly. Ricky shoots for a takedown, gets Liudvik against the fence. Clinching on the cage, little flurries of punches. Liudvik separates, and we're back to distance striking. Ricky using the jab well, Liudvik with a stiff cross. Ricky goes in for the clinch against the cage. Few punches in the clinch, but they separate again with under one minute in the round. Ricky starts landing good shots, Liudvik looking a little hurt against the fence. Ricky should take that with his output at the end of the round. Liudvik has a cut near his hairline, he claims it's from a clash of heads. Round 2 Ricky pumping his jab. Liudvik keeps pulling straight back to escape. Liudvik shoots a double and gets the takedown. Ricky throwing elbows from bottom. Ricky elevates with his butterflies and gets back to his feet. Liudvik clinching Ricky against the fence. They separate, back to distance striking. Ricky pressuring forward. Both guys trading jabs. Ricky shoots, Liudvik sprawls, Liudvik gets top position in the scramble. Ricky explodes, looking for Liudvik's legs. Liudvik tries to take Ricky's back. Scramble, both guys grabbing, but they get back to standing. Liudvik with another takedown, Ricky rolls, but Liudvik has mostly taken Ricky's back. Another scramble, back to standing. Ricky pushing Liudvik against the fence. Round ends with both men throwing. Tougher round. Liudvik didn't do a whole lot with his grappling. I could see it 19-19, but Ricky being up 20-18 is a strong possibility. Round 3 Ricky yells LETS' GO at the start of the round. Both guys exchanging punches. Ricky shoots, Liudvik sprawls, Ricky rolls, and we're back to standing. Liudvik starts winging these overhand, slapping punches. Ricky with a good jab and low kicks. Ricky rips to the body, landing elbows to the face. Ricky landing some nice 1-2s, Liudvik throwing back, but not landing as much, or as cleanly. Liudvik getting tagged consistently, and Ricky is avoiding most of the return fire. Liudvik shoots, Ricky sprawls. Ricky cements his Max Holloway status by pointing to the center of the cage with 30 seconds to go and inviting a brawl. He gets tagged with some hard shots, but lands against Liudvik. Round 3 and the fight should go to Ricky. Winner: RICKY TURCIOS God dang, that was a great fight! After the fight, it seems like a producer is trying to get "just one quick question" answered by Liudvik, but he's not in the right state, mentally, to answer, so he bails. Good on him, man. NEXT WEEK! Team challenge. It looks like their are changing tires. Uh, ok. sure. Also, Bryan Battle vs Andre Petroski in middleweight action!
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Brut posted:Yeah maybe if he doesn't get kneed there Aljo eats a punch on the way up, stands up, the round ends, but then what? My personal take is that Aljo didn't win, but Yan chose to lose. I don't care what Yan's corner may or may not have said, if he didn't internalize the rule that an opponent with a knee down is considered a grounded opponent (this isn't something that changes in the altered rule sets, so one can't use that excuse), that's on him. This isn't some obscure rule from an edge case in the Semaphore days, this is a fundamental part of the UFC's unified rules. I also don't think the belt should change hands on a DQ. It should go into escrow until they create a new matchup, ideally involving the person who "won" due to DQ (if they weren't too wrecked to continue competing) and someone else. If the DQ committer wants another shot, they gotta get back in line.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I also don't think the belt should change hands on a DQ. It should go into escrow until they create a new matchup, ideally involving the person who "won" due to DQ (if they weren't too wrecked to continue competing) and someone else. If the DQ committer wants another shot, they gotta get back in line. I don't think this is a horrible idea, but what about a situation where one fighter is winning easily then gets struck with a blatant foul and cant continue?
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I also don't think the belt should change hands on a DQ. It should go into escrow until they create a new matchup, ideally involving the person who "won" due to DQ (if they weren't too wrecked to continue competing) and someone else. If the DQ committer wants another shot, they gotta get back in line. This is the UFC we're talking about though..
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 23:01 |
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I like the belt being traded on a DQ, not because it's a fair and even-handed policy that considers every possibility but because it's an uncompromising black-and-white policy that discourages gamifying the championship rules
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# ? Jul 28, 2021 23:08 |
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Aljo being tired and stalling is definitely true. Yan being a really dumb man is also true. I don't think it needs a rule over haul to figure out a solution to it. IIRC someone posted - somewhere that Yan's corner yelled "hit him, hit him" or "you can hit" and Yan threw the knee but obviously they meant punches.
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I wrote way too many words about the real card of the weekend and here they areTroy Queef posted:Oh, Bellator. From your early days on ESPN Deportes, despite all commentary being in English (where a young--THIS FIGHT CLOCK IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY MODELO--commentator by--WEARING THE BLACK AND GOLD BEFITTING A CHAMPION--the name of--THIS THIRD ROUND IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY P3, PORTABLE PROTEIN PACKS--Jon Anik got his start in MMA), to its move to MTV2, to Viacom buying out Bjorn "My Dad Was The Winnebago Man" Rebney as head of the promotion, to its move to Spike when the UFC did the Fox deal, to bringing in Scott Coker once his non-compete was up, to abandoning the old "season" format (where certain divisions would have an eight-man tournament with the winner given a title shot each year), to signing every old guy you can think of up to and including Ken Shamrock, to Kimbo Slice vs Dada 5000 (which, it should be noted, is still the highest-rated fight in promotion history), to adding kickboxing, to hiring Mike Goldberg because of the nostalgia factor, you've certainly been a weird promotion in a weird sport. You've given us sneaky good fights combined with total squash matches and nostalgia rematches no one really asked for. Now, you've decided that 10 years after it got bought out by Zuffa, you're going to try and bring back the old Strikeforce magic. Hell, you've even moved to Showtime and put Mauro Ranallo on main commentary. And as luck would have it, one of the best fights your promotion could make just so happens to be the first card you're doing outside of your pandemic base at the Mohegan Sun, as well as a card going up against a frankly lovely UFC card over on ESPN.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 04:16 |
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Lol at Bellator having fighters like Khabib's cousin and Zabit's little brother. They're probably from real but it really contributes to the knockoff feel.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:My personal take is that Aljo didn't win, but Yan chose to lose. I don't care what Yan's corner may or may not have said, if he didn't internalize the rule that an opponent with a knee down is considered a grounded opponent (this isn't something that changes in the altered rule sets, so one can't use that excuse), that's on him. This isn't some obscure rule from an edge case in the Semaphore days, this is a fundamental part of the UFC's unified rules. Agree with the first bit, strongly disagree with the second bit. If you lose via DQ, then you should have all the same trappings of losing via decision or any other normal way.
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BlindSite posted:Aljo being tired and stalling is definitely true. Yan being a really dumb man is also true. I don't think it needs a rule over haul to figure out a solution to it. The way I understand it, is that they used the Russian word for "strike", which like English can mean both kick and punch. "Do I strike him?" "Yes, strike him!" I think DC said Khabib told him this is what happened.
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quote:This past weekend at BKFC 19, Liddell was part of a special commentary team doing an alternate broadcast for the event on FITE TV headlined by ex-UFC star Paige VanZant and Rachael Ostovich. I like chuck a lot as a personality and a former face of the UFC and hopefully he never fights at BKFC. The most recent Chuck Tito fight was probably the lowest point for me as an MMA fan.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 09:00 |
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world b lee posted:I think if you present your back to your opponent during a fight, at any point in time for any reason, it should be registered as a submission and you should have to give your opponent livestock as penance Spinning backfists own though. Also that genki sudo clip where he starts looking over his shoulder
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https://twitter.com/RyanMcKinnell/status/1420424255242522629
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 11:33 |
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Weidman really ought to commit to retiring if his leg isn't healing right. A shame for him. I don't like him as a fighter but he deserves better. Fingers crossed that Conor's doesn't heal right. gently caress Conor.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 12:26 |
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I wouldn't be confident in either of those guys being capable of taking a physiotherapists recommendations seriously.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 12:31 |
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https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1420794421528911874 but dana promised me covid wasn't a problem anymore
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 18:16 |
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That really loving blows.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 18:17 |
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Well that just loving sucks, goddamnit
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 18:21 |
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Sucks for her. Pena survies for a bit longer Rest of the card is a good fight night card but not a PPV.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 18:43 |
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lewis/gane is a good meme fight and aldo/munhoz, chiesa/luque, yadong/kenney and green/fiziev are all secretly really good fights imo.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 18:46 |
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The bolsonaro supporter who lives in Florida getting covid really coming out of nowhere
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 19:58 |
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A bunch of twitter commenters who have been paying attention to Chris Weidman's situation are saying he has been training on it, against doctor's orders. Welp.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 21:05 |
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Stealth Tiger posted:A bunch of twitter commenters who have been paying attention to Chris Weidman's situation are saying he has been training on it, against doctor's orders. Welp. https://www.instagram.com/p/CQMp4Z3DN4d/?utm_medium=copy_link oof
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 21:24 |
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I hope Amanda at least got vaccinated this time around, given last July:quote:Nunes said on Thursday during a virtual UFC 250 media day that she had all the Covid-19 symptoms when she returned from Las Vegas but cannot confirm it as she wasn’t tested.
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# ? Jul 29, 2021 21:41 |
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kimbo305 posted:I hope Amanda at least got vaccinated this time around, given last July: How's vaccine availability in Brazil?
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mewse posted:How's vaccine availability in Brazil? Every vaccine that crosses their border gets immediately put into this guy
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