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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I vaguely recall reading that this almost happened back in 2001. Like Iran was overjoyed at the US bombing the hell out of the Taliban because they absolutely loathed them. China too honestly. They hated the Taliban and welcomed the USA invasion while taking some advantage. Turns out the neocons and corporates that control American policy are incredibly loving dumb. Or maybe they're incredibly smart considering none of them will ever have to suffer consequences for bad mistakes and failures, while getting to keep all of the money given to them so generously by American taxpayers. All the while still making money forevermore on threatening forever wars with China and Iran. MIC is a bitch.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I vaguely recall reading that this almost happened back in 2001. Like Iran was overjoyed at the US bombing the hell out of the Taliban because they absolutely loathed them. Yep which is why I said finally. They aren't really any worse than the Saudis et al so we could just align our flavors of imperialism and be best buds
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https://twitter.com/BurgerPilled/status/1420966234821218311?s=20 Good troll game, IMO
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mobby_6kl posted:Yep which is why I said finally. They aren't really any worse than the Saudis et al so we could just align our flavors of imperialism and be best buds More likely of Washington to ally with the Taliban and pretend the past 20 years never happened.
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mobby_6kl posted:Yep which is why I said finally. They aren't really any worse than the Saudis et al so we could just align our flavors of imperialism and be best buds They don't have Saudi levels of $$$+oil and there's also the issue of the Israel lobby.
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/BurgerPilled/status/1420966234821218311?s=20 Holy poo poo lol
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Haystack posted:What is Isreal's influence on Afghanistan, anyway? Can't imagine its much; Israel's ground game is dogshit, and its not like the afghan warlords suffered a dearth of airstrike support.
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Haystack posted:What is Isreal's influence on Afghanistan, anyway? The Afghan war. Remember an Israel spy "Iranian defector", was instrumental in getting americas buy in.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The Afghan war. Remember an Israel spy "Iranian defector", was instrumental in getting americas buy in. I think the Taliban harboring Osama bin Laden was a lot more instrumental to getting Americas buy in for a war in Afghanistan
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Haystack posted:What is Isreal's influence on Afghanistan, anyway? During the Soviet-Afghan War at least, Israel (and Egypt IIRC) was the source of alot of the Soviet and East Bloc equipment provided to the Mujahideen at least.
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Welcome to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan cw: dead people hanging from a town gate https://i.imgur.com/JmSxoYL.jpg wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Vasukhani posted:Welcome to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Ouch. Taliban is doing targeted killings everywhere. Assassinating the key figures in municipal and federal chains of command. Yes been happening a long time but they are literally abducting people trying and executing them. Not just drive by shootings.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Ouch. yeah its going to get real ugly.
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Kandahar airport was cratered. They patched it and kept rolling. If the Taliban can get a VBIED on the tarmac they won't be able to patch that.
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Tooze did a really good writeup on the last decades of economics in Afghanistan. It also refers to this rather interesting report from 2020 about oversized aid and military presence turning Afghanistan into a rentier-economy.
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mobby_6kl posted:Yep which is why I said finally. They aren't really any worse than the Saudis et al so we could just align our flavors of imperialism and be best buds
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Ok guys, what's with the sudden manufacturing consent for a Gaddafi returning to lead Libya? There's very obviously some group who's been keeping this dude in their back pocket for the last decade and I'm willing to bet it's the CIA, but why's he suddenly popping up now? https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/amid-the-chaos-and-war-broken-libya-yearns-for-a-saviour-named-gaddafi-zv9b628ms https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/30/muammar-gadaffis-son-emerges-hiding-hints-libyan-presidency/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/magazine/qaddafi-libya.html https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20210730-muammar-gaddafi-s-son-suggests-he-may-run-for-president-in-libya
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I read some speculation that Russia/Putin being behind it, the overthrow of og Gaddafi regime being a big slap in the face back in the day
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Pistol_Pete posted:Ok guys, what's with the sudden manufacturing consent for a Gaddafi returning to lead Libya? There's very obviously some group who's been keeping this dude in their back pocket for the last decade and I'm willing to bet it's the CIA, but why's he suddenly popping up now? Well hopefully they end slavery again. but that might be seen as an infringement on the american way of life.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Ok guys, what's with the sudden manufacturing consent for a Gaddafi returning to lead Libya? There's very obviously some group who's been keeping this dude in their back pocket for the last decade and I'm willing to bet it's the CIA, but why's he suddenly popping up now? Why the hell would it be the CIA?
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I think the CIA are in the tank for the guy who wants to be the literal King of Libya, not one of Gaddafi's sons.
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bedpan posted:I think the CIA are in the tank for the guy who wants to be the literal King of Libya, not one of Gaddafi's sons. That would make more sense, yeah.
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The CIA isn't backing every shithead in the world. Russia and Iran back plenty of terrible people too.
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It's sounding like the Taliban are pushing pretty hard into Lashkar Gah, people are saying there's bodies on the streets, burnt out ANA vehicles laying about and the hospitals are filling up. If the Taliban can capture this provincial capitals they'll be much more motivated to make a move on others. On paper at least these bigger cities should be hard for them to take. The ANA has no supply lines and people will fight harder if their backs are against a wall. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58074525
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Charliegrs posted:The CIA isn't backing every shithead in the world. Russia and Iran back plenty of terrible people too. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...foutputType=amp --- Attack on MODs house in Kabul. Suicide bombers and gunmen involved in a four hour siege at the ministers house. Security guards wounded. USSOS says that the attack has hallmarks of Taliban assault. Could be isis though. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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Well, good to see that our wonderful news agencies have completely failed to articulate what on earth was going on there, or what any of it was about.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, good to see that our wonderful news agencies have completely failed to articulate what on earth was going on there, or what any of it was about. There is a shadow war going on lol
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The afghan defense minister was targeted for an assassination last night by several assailaints with rifles and suicide vests. It happened in Kabul amidst a social media inspired public gathering urging denizens to take to the streets which the minister participated in. https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-kabul-taliban-dc70d26462d8bdfd9f88d4a2bdd8a5b8
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, good to see that our wonderful news agencies have completely failed to articulate what on earth was going on there, or what any of it was about. What is going on?
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MiddleOne posted:The afghan defense minister was targeted for an assassination last night by several assailaints with rifles and suicide vests. It happened in Kabul amidst a social media inspired public gathering urging denizens to take to the streets which the minister participated in. If your defense minister is out in the streets personally trying to rally a levée en mass to defend the nation you might be in trouble
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, good to see that our wonderful news agencies have completely failed to articulate what on earth was going on there, or what any of it was about. The earlier article on it sheds a little light on it, albeit the whole thing is so many layers of murky that you kind of have to read between the lines. https://apnews.com/article/ship-isr...w&utm_medium=AP
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Fuschia tude posted:If your defense minister is out in the streets personally trying to rally a levée en mass to defend the nation you might be in trouble I'm half-convinced it was a psy-op to make the attack more likely to succeed but no journalists are biting on that so I assume there's more to it.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The earlier article on it sheds a little light on it, albeit the whole thing is so many layers of murky that you kind of have to read between the lines. So this is actually a different ship. This was the Asphalt Princess, she was hijacked by an unknown force today and then left in UAE waters. It's all extremely odd. quote:The British military’s United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations reported that the incident, which it had described as a “potential hijack” the night before, was now “complete.” It did not provide further details. The AP brief reads like one of those press reports you'd get in rainbow six, so that doesn't help things... https://twitter.com/Samir_Madani/status/1422823697572892673 The narrative emerging in the western press is that Iran is trying to soft blockade Gulf rivals with these actions (which started almost two years ago) wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Aug 4, 2021 |
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There were some reports of 5 vessels having been taken but I guess that's just some nearby crews going into their panic rooms, turning off the engines and setting the transponder to 'no one is on the bridge, stay clear !'. Communicating through AIS is something you see around Somalia as well, lots of ships going to destination ARMED GUARD ON BOARD
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quote:A city in southwestern Afghanistan has become the country's first provincial capital to fall to the Taliban in recent years, officials told the BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58119886  Long War Journal is saying it fell without a fight. quote:he Taliban took control of Zaranj, the capital of Nimruz province, without a fight. The western locale is the first provincial capital to fall under Taliban control since it launched its offensive across the country in May.
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Count Roland posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58119886
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