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The Slack Lagoon posted:So I live in a 'condo' that is a 2 family house. The 'hoa' consists of my unit and the other one. That sounds very annoying IMO. One of the best things about having an electric car is being able to leave it charging overnight and it's ready to go in the morning. I guess how annoying depends on how heavily you use your cars. Idk about that specific feature. My apartment block has power sockets for each parking bay that are wired into the respective apartment's meter, which is pretty neat but will be $
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The Slack Lagoon posted:So I live in a 'condo' that is a 2 family house. The 'hoa' consists of my unit and the other one. It's definitely possible, but I wonder if it would end up being more expensive than just getting a second EVSE. A high power weatherproof switch might be pretty cheap, but I'd want an electrical engineer to make sure it's up to spec and the circuit is designed correctly, and then an electrician to inspect or install it, which might cost more than just having someone come out and install another EVSE. Also, it adds the fun bonus of getting in to arguments with your neighbor about the $2 extra you got billed when they forgot to flip the switch when they plugged in. Look it's not about the money, Bob. It's the principle. This isn't the first time this month either, Bob.
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I'm one of the people who put down a reservation for the Ioniq 5 and I'm still waiting on any information whatsoever about them other than "Fall 2021." What IS cool, though, is that Hyundai wants to win over new consumers hesitant about EV's by doing an alternative "subscription" model, where you essentially do a monthly subscription, all-included with insurance etc., to "try" the car out for a little while until you feel more confident in a yes or no decision. It's brilliant, I think, because a lot of people are still on the fence about EV's and don't realize how far that industry has come even in the past two years regarding things like range and cost. I'm just nervous about price release, but if they want to compete in the space, I'm guessing it will be somewhere between/around the cheapest Tesla model (advertised as $39,500) and the Mach-E ($43,000), and that's OK with me. The Rav4 Prime is listed around the same spot but as we know, dealers are charging the moon for it now because of supply issues.
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Car subscriptions have been the hot new thing in Europe for a year or two, seems that payment model is popular.
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Fame Douglas posted:Car subscriptions have been the how new thing in Europe for a year or two, seems that payment model is popular. its extremely hyped but penetration is low
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Fame Douglas posted:Car subscriptions have been the how new thing in Europe for a year or two, seems that payment model is popular. I'm surprised it's taken so long to get to the US. Cars are a major commitment and they're expensive. Forcing people to commit to 3-year leases (or maybe 2 year) seems a little stupid nowadays. At the very least, having a try before you buy period of like six months seems like a no-brainer for car companies to quell hesitancies of consumers.
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fawning deference posted:I'm surprised it's taken so long to get to the US. Cars are a major commitment and they're expensive. Forcing people to commit to 3-year leases (or maybe 2 year) seems a little stupid nowadays. At the very least, having a try before you buy period of like six months seems like a no-brainer for car companies to quell hesitancies of consumers. customers really, really, don't like it for whatever reason. people are still really in to "owning" a car even if that's actually in the form of a lease.
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Jul 30, 2021 14:30
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:customers really, really, don't like it for whatever reason. people are still really in to "owning" a car even if that's actually in the form of a lease. Which I can see as annoying if you really just like a TT or whatever and don't need to change. The others seem prohibitively expensive, which makes sense if you realize the insurance/maintenance is out of your hands.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Oh, something you might want to consider as well, if you're a costco member, is they have an additional 1-3k off the Bolt EV on top of other manufacture and dealer deals. Huh… that’s actually pretty nice. Bit late for me to seriously consider (also no stock around me for 20-21 models) but definitely something I’m going to keep an eye out on from now on. Also gonna sign up for a test drive of the ‘22 bolt since they do have one right by home.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:its extremely hyped but penetration is low Enough about me, though.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Enough about me, though. sure, minus the hype
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Just wondering if there's some way to wire it so you can change which meter the power flows through. There's definitely a way to wire this. I suspect it's illegal. I'm not certain, it just strikes me as the sort of thing that you're not supposed to go doing. Not for safety reasons, but for billing or other administrative reasons.
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The Slack Lagoon posted:So I live in a 'condo' that is a 2 family house. The 'hoa' consists of my unit and the other one. The easiest solution, as long as you can deal with the limitations, would be to just install a 50A outlet fed from each meter near where you want to put the charger and just switch the plug around as needed. Obviously that means you max out at 40A charging but for most home uses that should still be fine. No idea on if there are code limitations on having adjacent outlets with different sources, but it seems like if there are limitations on that then they really wouldn't like any kind of hardwired solution.
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Finger Prince posted:It's definitely possible, but I wonder if it would end up being more expensive than just getting a second EVSE. A high power weatherproof switch might be pretty cheap, but I'd want an electrical engineer to make sure it's up to spec and the circuit is designed correctly, and then an electrician to inspect or install it, which might cost more than just having someone come out and install another EVSE. Yeah I don't think that kind of switch is any different than what you use to switch between shore and generator power on an RV / boat. But running extra 6 gauge wire might negate the cost of the EVSE as mentioned. Another solution, if you have flat electricity rates, is a "smart" EVSE that requires you to enter a PIN and you divvy it up at the end of the month.
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Not sure what's available in the US, but there are wallboxes with power metering capabilities. Maybe that'd be an option as well.
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What's stopping someone from just hitting the big Frankenstein switch over the to neighbor's when they're sleeping or whatever?
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FilthyImp posted:What's stopping someone from just hitting the big Frankenstein switch over the to neighbor's when they're sleeping or whatever? Honor *unsheathes katana*
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Can't wait to see more of this story on the upcoming reality TV show "Charger Wars - Neighbor against Neighbor"
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I've never given turning circle a thought when it comes to cars, but after 2 weeks with the ID.3 I will in the future. Makes parking (or more often getting out of spots) a breeze. It's almost like those 30's cars with a 5th wheel that deployed to help swinging into a parking space. Another super nice feature is that the ACC is calculating the deceleration when letting of the accelerator based on speed limit, distance to cars in front (and based on their speed) as well as upcoming turns or round-abouts. I'm also used to the weird steering wheel buttons now, and once you "get" them they aren't bad.
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The Slack Lagoon posted:So I live in a 'condo' that is a 2 family house. The 'hoa' consists of my unit and the other one. Just pay the extra cash for the two chargers. It'll be less of a pain in the rear end in the short term, and in the long term if you ever sell the place you won't scare off possible buyers with the frankencharger setup.
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mattfl posted:I thought I'd be slick and maybe pick up a slightly used 2020/2021 for a little less than my new one since my build date keeps getting pushed out, but gently caress that noise. Time to put my patient hat on as my wife would say I guess and just wait. Apparently my car will already be worth 5k more than what I'm paying for it? lol I took delivery of my Model 3 on Wednesday, and it was basically perfect. Couldn't find anything wrong with it. It's as advertised and I love it. But yeah 2021 3s are listed on Autotrader for 57-60k and I just paid a grand total of 53 for the thing. I can't believe I'm tempted to sell it, pocket the 4-7k, and just wait a few more months. It'll be annoying to be a one car family into the fall, but if you had told me a month ago you'd pay me 1k a month to wait longer for the car I'd have said hell yes. Plus if deliveries really are into November, the tax credits that are likely in the reconciliation bill may have landed, in which case the price might drop 7-10k further. So I wonder if it's really possible that if I wait until September-November for the car I could save somewhere between 10-15 grand on the total cost between the sale and the tax credit. Is that insane? It feels insane.
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AhhYes posted:
Are there any? I feel like whenever I've looked into it it comes off as "stuff we'd like to do" rather than "stuff that's getting voted on."
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Harveygod posted:Are there any? I feel like whenever I've looked into it it comes off as "stuff we'd like to do" rather than "stuff that's getting voted on." I was under the impression the reconciliation bill will get a vote sometime after the August recess and the tax credits were likely to be in it. But yeah, I don't think anyone is certain about what specifically will be in the bill. It'd just be quite the potential bonus for going through another order cycle.
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AhhYes posted:I took delivery of my Model 3 on Wednesday, and it was basically perfect. Couldn't find anything wrong with it. It's as advertised and I love it. You know asking price doesn’t equal selling price right
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bird with big dick posted:You know asking price doesn’t equal selling price right Lol yes but right now with things being so crazy price wise I wonder how much less than asking they're going for.
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What’s rumored to be in the reconciliation bill? I was under the impression that Tesla’s no longer qualified for the 7500 tax credit.
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SnatchRabbit posted:What’s rumored to be in the reconciliation bill? I was under the impression that Tesla’s no longer qualified for the 7500 tax credit. Pretty sure all EV stuff is going to get gutted from reconciliation just like it was gutted from the main bill that’s maybe passing today so I wouldn’t exactly hold my breath on it.
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I wouldn't expect anything in it. Despite having a majority in all three houses, the dems will compromise and remove anything useful before they even get any pushback. SnatchRabbit posted:What’s rumored to be in the reconciliation bill? I was under the impression that Tesla’s no longer qualified for the 7500 tax credit. 7.5k for all, 10k for domestic made, 12.5k for domestic union-made. No cap.
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Westy543 posted:7.5k for all, 10k for domestic made, 12.5k for domestic union-made. No cap. Yeah this is what left the finance committee. It was also retroactive to May IIRC
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AhhYes posted:Yeah this is what left the finance committee. It was also retroactive to May IIRC Does it include plug in hybrid cars?
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knox_harrington posted:I went to the garden centre  I should finally be picking up my RWD within a week I think! Excited and a little nervous to be driving my first non Tesla EV in ten whole years.
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eeenmachine posted:
Awesome! What colour did you go for in the end?
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knox_harrington posted:Awesome! What colour did you go for in the end? Carmine Red on Mission E's.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbAkuiS8PHU Hummer EV walkaround
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Nitrousoxide posted:Does it include plug in hybrid cars? I honestly don't remember but I think yes. The problem is what left the finance committee was (I fully admit that I might not know what I'm talking about here) a standalone bill for tax credits and not a part of the big bill everyone is waiting for. So while it was considered and passed the committee vote, there's no guarantee it'll be a part of the final big bill. It could serve as the framework for any credits that are included in the final bill but I don't think anyone knows for sure. It is the only specific policy on the subject that's been discussed in the last year though.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbAkuiS8PHU This shouldn't exist.
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AhhYes posted:Yeah this is what left the finance committee. It was also retroactive to May IIRC As a June car buyer (and ordered may 1st) fuuuucckkk yessss
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Westy543 posted:As a June car buyer (and ordered may 1st) fuuuucckkk yessss Sadly it has basically zero chance of passing without significant changes. No republicans will vote for it so they have to be able to pass it through reconciliation and Manchin has his own bill that he’s focusing on which has nothing to do with clean energy and everything to do with keeping fossil fuels alive for the foreseeable future.
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knox_harrington posted:I went to the garden centre this is a very pretty car.
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