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stev posted:I remember watching my dad play that when I was a lad and the way the Luggage followed you around really freaked me out. I think it was the legs. You're in line with just about every character in the books there, then.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:13
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thrashingteeth posted:I was watching Peep show the other day and remembered how much of an absolute mega melt Robert Webb is. I vaguely recall this whole thing was because Corbin referred to a deceased street sweeper he knew as hardworking. Edit: think I misremembered hand-fed baby bird fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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Jul 31, 2021 12:21
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Camrath posted:Yeah, I went into The Watch expecting to hate it utterly. Instead it kind of ruled? Given your enthusiasm I suspect the answer is obvious, but should I give this another shot? I watched about 15 mins of the pilot and gave up. It was less the "it's not Pratchett" thing and more that it just seemed kinda a mess and sloppily written. Maybe it's just because it's the pilot (and because I only watched 15 mins), but it was doing that bad adaptation thing of dropping lots of clunky exposition while also having things happen that are only really meaningful or interesting if you know the source material because the show hasn't done a good job of setting them up
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Jul 31, 2021 12:22
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Niric posted:Given your enthusiasm I suspect the answer is obvious, but should I give this another shot? I watched about 15 mins of the pilot and gave up. It was less the "it's not Pratchett" thing and more that it just seemed kinda a mess and sloppily written. Maybe it's just because it's the pilot (and because I only watched 15 mins), but it was doing that bad adaptation thing of dropping lots of clunky exposition while also having things happen that are only really meaningful or interesting if you know the source material because the show hasn't done a good job of setting them up 15 minutes probably isn't a fair shout though, idk
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Jul 31, 2021 12:26
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The first episode does not sell it well- the framing of it makes it all a bit of a mess. After episode 2 it straightens out into a more regular timeline and gets much better.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:28
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thrashingteeth posted:I was watching Peep show the other day and remembered how much of an absolute mega melt Robert Webb is. Jeremy Corbyn poopood the fancy unis and said some of the most intelligent and thoughtful people he had met had been Street sweepers. This made Oxford toffs apoplectic and Webb started proclaiming his working class credentials because he lived in a bungalow (didn't even have stairs in his house smh) while also bragging that he went to Oxford and worked hard for his money and was therefor more intelligent than a street sweeper. He's a oval office op.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:29
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Peep show was great entertainment but Mitchell was way funnier than Webb who has done nothing since Mitchell and Webb show is dire though
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Jul 31, 2021 12:32
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Peep show was great entertainment but Mitchell was way funnier than Webb who has done nothing since I would have quite liked Back if Webb wasn't in it being exactly his cunty self but thinking he's being knowingly self aware. And don't forget what a pathetic twat he was the other month when he was confronted about his transphobic views on a podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjhzvfWGUio&t=2578s stev fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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Jul 31, 2021 12:33
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Coat tail riders are always the most defensive of their spot Edit: Mitchell will probably have the exact same politics of Webb given his background and the family he married into but unlike Webb he's clever enough to remember he's a light entertainment dork who's trying to do mass appeal. Closest he gets to an opinion is "I feel society should improve somewhat" Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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Jul 31, 2021 12:37
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JollyBoyJohn posted:
No one sees to remember the show Ambassadors, where, to bring two strands of the thread together, Webb basically played Craig Murray.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:47
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OwlFancier posted:I really can't imagine someone who likes pratchett's work and is also a big terf.
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Jul 31, 2021 12:54
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I'm always slightly weary about David Mitchell, it seems he's just smart enough to keep schtum about politics beyond the superficial as opposed to Webb who just goes arse first into poo poo he has no clue about. I could just be being cynical however.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:06
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Camrath posted:The first episode does not sell it well- the framing of it makes it all a bit of a mess. After episode 2 it straightens out into a more regular timeline and gets much better. What didn't sell The Watch well at all was them kicking Rhi Pratchett off the project and throwing out everything she'd done. It may or may not be a good show in its own right, but I don't care; the sheer level of disrespect shown to both her and the material is too great. Anyway: raise a glass and a GNU to a true hero. 
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Jul 31, 2021 13:07
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thrashingteeth posted:I was watching Peep show the other day and remembered how much of an absolute mega melt Robert Webb is. First of all his mum died when he was young. Reading the early life chapters he was a very sensitive kid, something he now looks back on with scorn. It's the stereotypical internalised self hatred you see in every single guy out there who's afraid of not being a typical lad, so lashes out at their inner child. He ended up living with his dad, a man he portrays as a drunk, angry working class northern stereotype. He absolutely hates working class people because of his issues with his dad. He managed to fail his way into Cambridge (not Oxford) and immediately dropped the accent and affectations of his upbringing and adopted the persona of Cambs Lad. Which would be fine, except for the fact that he shits on anyone with an accent because of again, his internalised self hatred. He also portrays as a major, mindblowing revelation - steel yourselves dear reader - that he is bisexual and he fooled around with a male friend when he was younger. Seriously, he builds this up so loving much and it just shows how much he sees that side of himself as shameful as well. Webb's comedy shtick sort of falls through after reading about his past and internal monologue, because you realise he's not putting on an act with the nastiness and disdain in the characters he plays. He hams it up so you think it's a veneer, but when you read the opinions in his book and how they're fuelled by his rampant self loathing, the shtick is an excuse, almost performative reverse irony to make people think it's just an act, except it's not and he really is that spite driven. I suspect his terf turn is driven by the disappointingly typical 'I was never allowed to be myself, why should they' mentality. Like gently caress You Got Mine except he doesn't even have his. Pathetic
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Jul 31, 2021 13:11
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Webb is a twat and was always obviously second banana to the actual funny one of the comedy duo, and I wonder if that weighs on him. I still like Numberwang though.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:12
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Yeah, not going to give The Watch even a chance due to what they did to Rhianna and original crew who were working on it when Terry was alive. They stole it, and tried to gleam glory points for themselves, how great they were bring this to TV. gently caress them, and the show.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:13
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The only good thing the Sky adaptations have going for them is cementing Charles Dance in my head as Vetinari.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:18
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The only true adaptations are the audiobooks which are a treasure and a joy.
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Jul 31, 2021 13:50
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https://twitter.com/sirosenbaum/status/1421295667117498368?s=21
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Jul 31, 2021 13:56
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Sakurazuka posted:The first two Discworld games had the most insane puzzles in any point n click game. Everyone memes about the cat hair moustache thing in Gabriel Knight 3 (or whichever) but that whole sequence is like step one out of five in the easiest puzzle in the first Discworld game. The first Discworld game also had a pretty infamous Easter Egg because it got Eric Idel to say the F Bomb. The programmers thought they hid it so well that no one would find it, but someone heard the line when their game crashed and Windows went and played through all the sound files one by one. https://adventuregamers.com/forums/viewthread/4208
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Jul 31, 2021 13:56
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thrashingteeth posted:I'm always slightly weary about David Mitchell, it seems he's just smart enough to keep schtum about politics beyond the superficial as opposed to Webb who just goes arse first into poo poo he has no clue about. Yeah, Mitchell's established himself in a nice cushy little career of scriptwriting/ acting/ appearing on panel shows and keeps his politics anodyne and unremarkable - what's the point of involving himself in Twitter drama etc. when he's got pretty much everything he ever wanted? Webb has always been much more: "I HAVE THESE VERY IMPORTANT OPINIONS AND YOU ALL NEED TO CONCEDE THAT I AM CORRECT."
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Jul 31, 2021 14:05
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It should have a ring, but it *is* a ring...
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Jul 31, 2021 14:08
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What a poo poo useless party of cunts. https://twitter.com/EmmaLewellBuck/status/1421168950038179848
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Jul 31, 2021 14:08
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I'm pretty sure I've said before but his autobiography is fascinating in a bad way. This actually makes an absurd amount of sense haha, god he's just a tragic character lol.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:14
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keep punching joe posted:What a poo poo useless party of cunts. Reminds me of this, also form today https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/1421400665646059520 Probably not the case for Johnson, but my guess is that for other politicians, their thought process is "well they think they're buying influence, but I'm too smart for them  ; but I'll take their money". In other words, an MP version of the person who think advertising has no effect on them.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:17
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Mr Phillby posted:Being related to someone who's a pratchett fan and a mumsnet poster I've learned that theres no logical consistency beyond a belief that they're actually the progressive ones standing up for woman's rights therefore everyone truely progressive must be a terf too. But as people have demonstrated it is the literal actual loving text of the books, it is not subtext, a central arc of the dwarf books concerns the effect that their concept of rigid gender presentation has on people who want to present differently. Like unless you just don't read some of the best books (dwarf books best books fight me) and especially stuff like monstrous regiment where the whole loving book is about gender politics, presentation, and identity, I just do not get how your loving brain can just bounce his points like a loving KV-2 at Raseiniai.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:31
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learnincurve posted:The only true adaptations are the audiobooks which are a treasure and a joy. Specifically as voiced by Stephen Briggs save for some exceptions, like Mort sounding exactly like Neil from the Young Ones.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:44
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People can have all the lovely opinions they like as long as they shut the gently caress up and take them to their graves. If Davey M starts saying or acting on whatever bullshit he's got bouncing around his skull, then we've got a problem.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:49
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The thing I didn't like about that recent The Watch adaptation is that by raiding the good bits from all over the canon, they limit themselves from telling any of those future stories properly. Casting, costume and set design was top notch, though. V much agreed on Angua, too.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:51
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Most of Pratchett's books from the Soccer one onwards just felt awful and i eventually stopped reading them. Love the Channel 4/Cosgrove Hall animated stuff and a few of the tv movie ones (did not go near the latest one thankfully). Every so often i revisit Men At Arms and remember when all was good with the world and Pterry was the man. edit: gently caress Alzheimer's.
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Jul 31, 2021 14:53
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https://twitter.com/_daniredd/status/1419945625550995461
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Jul 31, 2021 14:55
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MelanieMoore/status/1417791769983414281
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Jul 31, 2021 14:58
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OwlFancier posted:But as people have demonstrated it is the literal actual loving text of the books, it is not subtext, a central arc of the dwarf books concerns the effect that their concept of rigid gender presentation has on people who want to present differently. What upsets me the most is that she can't see that she's parroting this warmed up homophobic garbage but with a new 'scarier' group of people to hate and fear. If we'd both been born a few decades earlier would she think that way about me too? Of course she doesn't have a problem with any individual trans person but think of the children bathroom assault bathroom assault! I haven't had the courage to ask her what she thinks of linehan these days, but I hope that even she doesn't thinks he'll be 'vindicated by history' anymore.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:02
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My main issue with the Discworld adaptations is that because the books have a strong comedic edge, the tone of the adaptations is always very fluffy and whimsical, and that just feels off the mark to me. The right way to capture the tone, for me, would be to play them pretty straight, make the world feel grimy and lived in, then have the quirkiness and humour come out in the scripting, not the presentation. Haven't seen The Watch though, I have no idea how it stacks up in that regard.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:09
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Just Another Lurker posted:Most of Pratchett's books from the Soccer one onwards just felt awful and i eventually stopped reading them. I would definitely suggest to read the Tiffany Aching novels, including The Shepard's Crown. His last book. I put it off for two years knowing it was the last one and didn't want it to end. But when I did, poo poo there needs to be a word for both feeling deep sadness and happy acknowledgement.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:16
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Mr Phillby posted:Of course she doesn't have a problem with any individual trans person but think of the children bathroom assault bathroom assault! I do remember Cheery initially had her office in the Watch’s privy. I assume in one book or another that got attacked by assassins, justifying the GC reading?
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Jul 31, 2021 15:22
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happyhippy posted:I would definitely suggest to read the Tiffany Aching novels, including The Shepard's Crown. His last book. it was perfect in it’s incompleteness, went full circle back to Wyrd Sisters where he dealt with death and not getting to say all the things you wanted to say. Sad, what could have been, and a bitter sweet goodbye.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:25
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Mr Phillby posted:I wish i understood it. She got mad about Cherry being portrayed by a male actor in the Watch. She was a fan of Eddie Izzard for years but suddenly isn't anymore. The actor who plays Cheery is actually non binary IIRC, and one of the best things about The Watch (at least three episodes in which is as far as we've gotten)
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Jul 31, 2021 15:29
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JollyBoyJohn posted:im not a smart man or an engineer but it seems really really dumb to build a structure (especially in the rain soaked uk) with a flat roof With flat roofs it's always when will they leak, not if.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:42
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Can't have a roof garden on an angled roof though. Well I guess you could but it'd be weird and your chairs would fall off.
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Jul 31, 2021 15:50
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