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Absurd Alhazred posted:I just learned that the more proper name for "Balls" is "Scrotum" which is a such a beautiful, evocative word I intend to use it as the name of the next racist old white guy character I create for one of my tabletop RPG sessions. T. Estes Scrotum, defender of the Deferens Vast.
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spectralent posted:I thought L5R RPG was still being published, at least? I haven't kept up on it but the last I'd heard was that it's being finished up. Someone who knows for sure will probably correct me.
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Jul 31, 2021 18:17
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Aw man that sucks; I just heard 5th ed is apparently actually really good.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:17
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Oh holy poo poo I missed Latinx, I didn’t see the X and thought it was Latin. Yep, that is kind of weird. I thought it meant the name would be converted from Spanish to Latin. Yeah, he left off the x so it took me a moment, but Latin as in "ancient Greek language" doesn't make any sense so I assume that's what he meant and didn't know how to write it properly.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:38
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I just learned that the more proper name for "Balls" is "Scrotum" which is a such a beautiful, evocative word I intend to use it as the name of the next racist old white guy character I create for one of my tabletop RPG sessions. Scabrous Scrotus was the antagonist in the Mad Max game. There's a name that paints a picture.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:46
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I just beat it, actually. I felt like "Scrotus" and "Rictus Erectus" were fun names for Immortan Joe's halfwit failsons, but for the main antagonist they should have gone with something a little less silly. Also the story completely falls apart toward the end.
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Jul 31, 2021 19:52
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A while back I learned that the technical medical term for a nosebleed is epistaxis, and you'd better believe I've named bad guys Epistaxis multiple times now.
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Jul 31, 2021 20:33
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I haven't kept up on it but the last I'd heard was that it's being finished up. Someone who knows for sure will probably correct me. They're supposed to finish the last announced book and then be continuing the line, but it's been very quiet. Edge's website is basically just a placeholder. It doesn't even link to places where you can buy the products that are supposed to be their business. spectralent posted:Aw man that sucks; I just heard 5th ed is apparently actually really good. The base system is pretty neat, I think. Unfortunately, the core book isn't great at explaining itself. Everyone seems to suggest starting with the beginner box quick start, but I've never read it myself. The system's got this weird mix of loose storygameness with specific subsystems that are very nitpicky. I think the silhouette (size) rules are a 16-point scale or something? And range is measured in bands, as is popular nowadays, but they're very concrete measurement ranges and there's like ten of them, too. And it's totally fair and cool for a samurai drama/combat game to have fiddlier combat. But also I don't think that means you need to make sure katana and saber, or nodachi and naginata, have distinct specific damage numbers on a scale of 1-10 or whatever. Just give me a few general weapon profiles and make any interesting weapon stuff special rules that do more than +damage. Still pretty okay, anyway, and probably the least racist iteration of the game that could ever be. And part of the expected core gameplay experience is "trying to live up to samurai ideals is hosed up and impossible, so your life is a violent soap opera." That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jul 31, 2021 |
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potatocubed posted:A while back I learned that the technical medical term for a nosebleed is epistaxis, and you'd better believe I've named bad guys Epistaxis multiple times now. This is a straight up Asterix name and I love it.
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BattleMaster posted:My next Greek Epic RPG hero will be named Testicles I really really hope you mean "Testiculos"! 
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Jul 31, 2021 21:30
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Please, it's gotta be Testikles. It's like you lot haven't played Assassins Creed: Odyssey and had Kassandra lie about being Testikles after what happened on the docks. Play AC: Odyssey, it's great.
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Jul 31, 2021 22:16
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Bruceski posted:but Latin as in "ancient Greek language" You actually made my eye twitch.
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That Old Tree posted:Still pretty okay, anyway, and probably the least racist iteration of the game that could ever be. And part of the expected core gameplay experience is "trying to live up to samurai ideals is hosed up and impossible, so your life is a violent soap opera." I'm playing a long-running game of l5r where the core conceit is "samurai ideals are hosed up and toxic, but they're also the slowly-fraying bootlace that the entire weight of the Empire is dangling off of (and if the Empire falls, so do you)" and it's made for some genuinely interesting and complicated stories.
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That Old Tree posted:They're supposed to finish the last announced book and then be continuing the line, but it's been very quiet. Edge's website is basically just a placeholder. It doesn't even link to places where you can buy the products that are supposed to be their business. It's based off Edge of the Empire which has gear porn galore, so that kinda tracks. Genesys is all over the place but I think with some more refinement it could've had legs. I've only played the demo of L5R and it was by the worst GM I know so I chalked it up to him.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:It's based off Edge of the Empire which has gear porn galore, so that kinda tracks. Genesys is all over the place but I think with some more refinement it could've had legs. I've only played the demo of L5R and it was by the worst GM I know so I chalked it up to him. No it's not. It's a different core mechanic that tries to marry FFG's love of custom dice with the roll and keep of 4th Ed, but it has nothing to do with Star Wars /Genesys
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Aug 1, 2021 02:10
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I haven't kept up on it but the last I'd heard was that it's being finished up. Someone who knows for sure will probably correct me. I'll be that person! The latest sourcebook developed under FFG came out earlier this year, focused on warfare and the Lion, and Edge Studio (where the FFG RPGs were moved) is supposed to be continuing to publish L5R sourcebooks into the future. Which is good, because although L5R sourcebook has a general theme and options for every faction/clan they're also a sourcebook for a specific clan, so if they were to stop now then several of the seven clans would end up missing out (currently we have Crab, Crane, Phoenix, and Lion, so we still need Dragon, Unicorn, and Scorpion). No surprise you haven't heard though, the seeming suddenness of FFG being carved up left a lot of games in the lurch. Plus Edge Studios is still working on having a functioning website, so there's no centralized place to actually go read this stuff. Melusine fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Aug 1, 2021 02:40
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The peterson dude is just being racist, he knows exactly what he is doing
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Aug 1, 2021 02:42
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I feel like if you're going to be intentionally racist, whether to dogwhistle or to tweak liberal SJW cuck noses, you'd probably go with something with a little more oomph than a "lol dishwasher" joke. The whole thing scans really easily to me as "boomery white dude with the cultural sensitivity of a barnacle thinks he had a clever idea." There's a lot of those kind of people in gaming, with the passive shittiness that comes from growing up privileged and oblivious to social mores. It's extremely easy for people to be generally lovely without being malicious. Not that it matters much either way, since he's still being lovely on a big public platform.
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That Old Tree posted:Still pretty okay, anyway, and probably the least racist iteration of the game that could ever be. And part of the expected core gameplay experience is "trying to live up to samurai ideals is hosed up and impossible, so your life is a violent soap opera." I have to respect the game for finally settling into the comfortable "Pendragon" niche it always wanted to, at least.
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Whybird posted:I'm playing a long-running game of l5r where the core conceit is "samurai ideals are hosed up and toxic So Samurai ideals were pretty hosed up and toxic, but what era is the L5R rpg based on? The "government stipend aristocrat" era or the Sekigaraha thing?
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:So Samurai ideals were pretty hosed up and toxic, but what era is the L5R rpg based on? The "government stipend aristocrat" era or the Sekigaraha thing? Oh, I mean the ideals of the samurai in the l5r setting, I am definitely not enough of a historian to pass judgement on actual historical samurai.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:So Samurai ideals were pretty hosed up and toxic, but what era is the L5R rpg based on? The "government stipend aristocrat" era or the Sekigaraha thing? L5r is an anachronistic combination of several different eras that were nowhere near each other made to produce a specific sort of setting. Trying to use it as a Japan simulator is silly,and if you try to lock it to a specific era it loses a lot, same as if you try to make it "more realistic" the comparison to pendragon is not an accident.
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Well that Got Worse Comstar fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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All of that is bog-standard. "Must not be prejudicial to the reputation of GW" means "we reserve the right to take your stuff down if we decide your politics are bad for our PR." "Must not include artwork or imagery copied from official GW material" is literal - you can't reprint official GW screenshots or art in your fan work. The rest of it boils down to "label fan stuff as unofficial, don't try to sell it." The bit about not allowing ad revenue on fan stuff is the only thing there that stands out because it's not that common for it to be explicitly called out like this, but it makes sense.
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Comstar posted:Well that Got Worse I don't really get what's special about the underlined stuff, it's just don't use their images or text in your fanstuff and don't poo poo on GW, seems pretty standard. It is only really a problem for fan sites, since reporting is hard if you can't quote or show pictures, but that would probably fall under whatever critique and journalism is rather than just fan works. Edit : It might gently caress over tools like the yaktribe necromunda tools, but I assume they were already in grey areas. Hel fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Hel posted:I don't really get what's special about the underlined stuff, it's just don't use their images or text in your fanstuff and don't poo poo on GW, seems pretty standard. This change was made 2 weeks ago. It IS new to GW, and clearly an intention to use it, because of Warhammer+ coming out, and if they decide they LIKE your fan fiction and want to own it, and you say no, you must demonatise it. quote:It is only really a problem for fan sites, since reporting is hard if you can't quote or show pictures, but that would probably fall under whatever critique and journalism is rather than just fan works. No more lore channels or sites, because they use GW art. No NEW lore because who wants to risk losing their channel when GW decides to test fire their Death Star Laser at it. For me, I need to remember that Victoria Miniatures exists and I do not need to buy any new GW IG army units anyway. I can't wait for the shitshow that's going to happen when they do fire that thing at someone. Going to be quite the site to see...from a great distance. Comstar fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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???? That’s bog standard IP law and miles from a “Death Star”. Where are you getting these weird ideas.
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Lemon-Lime posted:All of that is bog-standard. The two that stand out to me in being not already part of basic copyright and intellectual copyright law are the restriction on prejudicial-to-GW fan sites (GW shouldn’t really have any authority to take down my geocities site saying “I like teh Emperor e fights aliens and doesn’t afraid of anything” even if it says “Matt Ward is teh suxxorz”) and the demand for all hobby books and magazines to be non-commercial (I believe it should be within my rights to publish for money a magazine about, say, painting miniatures, GW ones included.)
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LatwPIAT posted:The two that stand out to me in being not already part of basic copyright and intellectual copyright law are the restriction on prejudicial-to-GW fan sites (GW shouldn’t really have any authority to take down my geocities site saying “I like teh Emperor e fights aliens and doesn’t afraid of anything” even if it says “Matt Ward is teh suxxorz”) and the demand for all hobby books and magazines to be non-commercial (I believe it should be within my rights to publish for money a magazine about, say, painting miniatures, GW ones included.)
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NinjaDebugger posted:L5r is an anachronistic combination of several different eras that were nowhere near each other made to produce a specific sort of setting. Trying to use it as a Japan simulator is silly,and if you try to lock it to a specific era it loses a lot, same as if you try to make it "more realistic" the comparison to pendragon is not an accident. And on top of its era being "fantasy mishmash", much like the """Medieval European""" fantasy of many other RPGs, it's also a mishmash of Japanese, Chinese and some other SEA (and probably elsewhere) politics and geography. The landscape of the Emerald Empire is like "what if Japan, but mostly a contiguous land sort of like China." So a lot of Rokugan reads as being those really amazingly beautiful Japanese bucolic countrysides, but it takes up the vast heart of a half-million square mile empire. The empire and its origins draw quite a bit from romantic mythologies and histories of China, not just Japan. That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Aug 1, 2021 |
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Splicer posted:I'm curious how that exact wording translates into legal terms. I'm pretty sure "Matt ward is teh suxxorz" is protected speech, I would hope given everything going on that the intent of that part is so they can orbital laser anyone using their property for explicitly pro-fascist stuff It translates into "We have more money to throw at lawyers than you do, gently caress you," like every other policy that ignores fair use. Same reason they don't get into what "imagery copied" means.
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The prejudicial clause isn't there so they can shut down people who criticise GW, it's a completely standard clause that's there so GW can go "you do fan stuff but you posted something politically controversial* which making us look bad by association, you're in breach of our ToS." *where "politically controversial" could just as easily mean "Hitler did nothing wrong" as "TERFs are bad, actually," because corporations suck rear end. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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Puppy Time posted:It translates into "We have more money to throw at lawyers than you do, gently caress you," like every other policy that ignores fair use. Same reason they don't get into what "imagery copied" means. That said, good luck in the US. Fair Use while not a slam dunk is a pretty good barrier and even when it’s used in a non fan commercial setting. I could see more actions/threats in the UK, where they have a weaker version called Fair Dealing iirc.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:That said, good luck in the US. Fair Use while not a slam dunk is a pretty good barrier and even when it’s used in a non fan commercial setting. I could see more actions/threats in the UK, where they have a weaker version called Fair Dealing iirc. Not everyone has the wherewithal to fight Youtube and the like's copyright strikes, especially when multiple ones can get you automatically closed down and suddenly having to prove you're not in the wrong to get new income (you never get lost income returned).
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Rights holders get away with so much in the US because the court system really boils down to "Who can afford to keep paying lawyer fees?" (Answer: Usually not the people who are being wrongfully dinged with copyright strikes.)
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It should probably be noted that GW is UK-based, and so are a ton of Warhammer fans.
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All we know for sure is that since GW is super popular, its bottom 1% of vocal law-guessers is exponentially larger than any other fandom's. Which means this is just what threads look like now. (And Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and everywhere else games are discussed.)
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So what if I just build a whole site dedicated to how much I hate GW and how lovely I think it all is? That's not a fan site!
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Xiahou Dun posted:You actually made my eye twitch. Oh, balls. My bad. Humanities was 20 years ago.
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