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Fauxbot posted:people end up leaving south korea for work anywhere doing like, literally whatever, since working conditions are so shite the term "Helljoseon" is slang for how bad it is. it's not really a question of specific industries they're settling in imo Lol this is the wikipedia image  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_Joseon
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Aug 3, 2021 04:21
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the other thing the pro-China online left thing reminds me of is the Bernie phenomenon looking back, it's kinda nuts how people really bought into Bernie as a progressive leader. the wheels really came off towards the end when we saw how Bernie cosied up to Biden
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Aug 3, 2021 04:24
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, Scandinavian countries have been heavily moving in the other direction for years. i'd be interested in a comparison between the percentage of the economy / jobs in the public sector in idk, sweden, at its socdeam peak vs china now. and china's taken a big heel turn towards state intervention and control of the economy since xi took over
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Aug 3, 2021 04:24
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Ardennes posted:From what I have read/seen discussed, I doubt young people in China as a whole are as pessimistic about their prospects as young people in US. The closet parallel would probably be in first tier cities where affordability is much more of an issue. yeah I don’t think you see the kind of pessimism among young Chinese people that you see in the US. I think the big reason is bc if you’re a Chinese in your 20s, you will have seen pretty massive improvements to your standards of living within your lifetime, and no sign that the trend will stop anytime soon. Lot of Chinese people who come to the US are taken aback by how old and decrepit infrastructure and the like are since over in China there’s a constant feeling of development
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Aug 3, 2021 04:28
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:There's been kind of a general push to make those jobs more "diverse" by hiring more foreigners, but of course it's only low level minimum wage gigs so most of those people are students or from developing countries. ? I don’t think there’s been anything like a conscious push for diversity there (what’s your source for that impression), it’s just that Japan is having great trouble filling low level positions and that gap is getting filled by language school students etc. It’s been making the news for the last couple years how hard it is for 24 hour convenience stores to stay open due to inability to get workers et al, though that was fixed temporarily by covid since you got a bunch of restaurant workers to fill the gaps.
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Aug 3, 2021 04:28
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Ardennes posted:From what I have read/seen discussed, I doubt young people in China as a whole are as pessimistic about their prospects as young people in US. The closet parallel would probably be in first tier cities where affordability is much more of an issue. yes. much of china has a wonderful and refreshing sense of optimism, it’s the opposite of america in that way
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Aug 3, 2021 04:30
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mila kunis posted:i'd be interested in a comparison between the percentage of the economy / jobs in the public sector in idk, sweden, at its socdeam peak vs china now. and china's taken a big heel turn towards state intervention and control of the economy since xi took over From what I have seen the share of state ownership in the Swedish economy (except for some cases like Lumber) is comparatively small. Obviously, do to the social safety net, there are still a significant number of state employees. Sweden obviously still has stronger safety net than China but much of that is both the result of the Cold War and the sheer fact that Sweden has been a developed country for nearly a century. If anything from what I heard their health care system is badly overstretched and COVID has made things exceptionally difficult. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 04:36 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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Aug 3, 2021 04:30
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love to talk about youth optimism when the increasing sentiment about chinese millenials is stuff like involution and 躺平
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Aug 3, 2021 04:31
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shrike82 posted:love to talk about youth optimism when the increasing sentiment about chinese millenials is stuff like involution and 躺平 have you lived in both places?
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Aug 3, 2021 04:31
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yup, have you?
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Aug 3, 2021 04:32
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yes. i don’t know how you can’t see it, then. it’s night and day
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Aug 3, 2021 04:32
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as i sit in my taxi ride from shenzhen airport to the city center, my taxi driver, a young chinese millenial tells me about how optimistic he is about the country's future - thomas friedman
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Aug 3, 2021 04:33
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fart simpson posted:yes. much of china has a wonderful and refreshing sense of optimism, it’s the opposite of america in that way it’s something that’s present among all age groups, too, since pretty much everyone has seen big material improvements in their lifetimes. that the US appears moribund is probably also another source of optimism
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Aug 3, 2021 04:38
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FrancisFukyomama posted:it’s something that’s present among all age groups, too, since pretty much everyone has seen big material improvements in their lifetimes. that the US appears moribund is probably also another source of optimism I guess it is the end of history in the US... just not quite how some people imagined it.
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Aug 3, 2021 04:39
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fart simpson posted:thanks for posting with us shrike. not! go away.
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Aug 3, 2021 04:44
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Goon Boots posted:Lol this is the wikipedia image why is north korea represented in an image thats supposed to be describing a south korean phenomenon
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Aug 3, 2021 04:46
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You know nobody will just take your word for it that China is just as bad as USA when english speaking posters are more likely to have first hand experience of living in America.
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Aug 3, 2021 04:50
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If you're like me then you live in a semi-rural area where most of the infrastructure was built in the 40s & 50s, and the only stuff that gets developed is for gentrification projects or the interstate. Seeing pictures of Chinese subways popping up in the countryside as plans for urban expansion may as well be like looking at science fiction.
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Aug 3, 2021 04:54
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where’s brutalist mcdonalds to post some epic CPC videos when you need them
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Aug 3, 2021 04:54
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Lostconfused posted:You know nobody will just take your word for it that China is just as bad as USA when english speaking posters are more likely to have first hand experience of living in America. fart simpson has lived in shenzhen for like a decade
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Aug 3, 2021 04:55
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the US is a pretty low bar even versus most of Europe or supposed neolib countries like Japan like l said, it makes some sense for American millennials to view China as an idealized country for the same reason that Hong Kong millennials idealize the US personally, I’m not particularly invested in one imperialist country replacing another
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Aug 3, 2021 04:59
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Yeah I can tell you're above it all, shrike. Is that why you got banned from the dnd threads?
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Aug 3, 2021 05:05
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Why do Hong Kong millennials idealize the US, and not somewhere like Scandinavia.
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Aug 3, 2021 05:05
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not sure what you’re talking about and it’s funny to see a lefty point to the notion of being banned from D&D threads as an indictment of the poster
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Aug 3, 2021 05:06
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Atrocious Joe posted:Why do Hong Kong millennials idealize the US, and not somewhere like Scandinavia. i've heard offhand elsewhere that a lot of them buy into that oo-rah freedom poo poo and take it all in earnest as opposed to treating it like one would the phrase 'arbeit macht frei'
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Aug 3, 2021 05:08
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shrike82 posted:it’s funny hey you found a synonym for lol good job ya little scamp
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Aug 3, 2021 05:09
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personally i'd grant them more credit for bypassing the vile european if some of them weren't enticed by the prospect of being a british colony again
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Aug 3, 2021 05:09
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Atrocious Joe posted:Why do Hong Kong millennials idealize the US, and not somewhere like Scandinavia. I barely know any mutuals who are US idealists, some idealize UK and EU. I would say more idealize Taiwan/Japan/Korea than western culture. The only way you would think HK millenials idealize US would be from the protests when some people waved USA flags and poo poo.
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Aug 3, 2021 05:12
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Yeah I can tell you're above it all, shrike. Is that why you got banned from the dnd threads? being chased out of dnd isn't a mark of shame being banned from dnd for specifically posts like this though https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3833800&pagenumber=240&perpage=40#post477515795 im glad this forum has 10000 iks and this guy gets to post here unmolested
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Aug 3, 2021 05:13
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Kill All Cops posted:I barely know any mutuals who are US idealists, some idealize UK and EU. I would say more idealize Taiwan/Japan/Korea than western culture. The only way you would think HK millenials idealize US would be from the protests when some people waved USA flags and poo poo. wow very tankieish of you to suggest the hong kong protestors arent representative of the general population
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Aug 3, 2021 05:14
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Yeah, it's one thing to get banned from dnd in a vacuum and another thing to get thrown out for being too lovely of a poster for dnd.
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Aug 3, 2021 05:15
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Kill All Cops posted:I barely know any mutuals who are US idealists, some idealize UK and EU. I would say more idealize Taiwan/Japan/Korea than western culture. The only way you would think HK millenials idealize US would be from the protests when some people waved USA flags and poo poo. Is that K-Drama and pop again?
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Aug 3, 2021 05:15
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god i hope not
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Aug 3, 2021 05:17
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genericnick posted:Is that K-Drama and pop again? Yeah we got a bunch of dubbed K-drama on digital TV, and travel shows about places in Japan. USA lovers can watch National Geographic I guess Some Guy TT posted:wow very tankieish of you to suggest the hong kong protestors arent representative of the general population lmao but yes these days the disapora is quite widespread across the globe, and we moved on from calling mainlanders locusts to calling them new hong kongers with a wink
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Aug 3, 2021 05:18
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Some Guy TT posted:wow very tankieish of you to suggest the hong kong protestors arent representative of the general population Unironically tankieish if you to suggest the ones who were waving USA and trump flags were representative of the general population of protestors lol
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Aug 3, 2021 05:29
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shrike82 posted:the other thing the pro-China online left thing reminds me of is the Bernie phenomenon This isn't the silliest observation to make, and it will be interesting to see how this trend develops over time. Ardennes posted:The closet parallel would probably be in first tier cities where affordability is much more of an issue. China is speedrunning to first world global hyperpower status and they're gonna end up running into the same issues other advanced economies have - so actions like the recent crackdown on fintech companies reveal some refreshing ways they're doing things differently. As far as urban youth angst goes, remains to be seen how CPC addresses affordability concerns.
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Aug 3, 2021 05:32
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favourite part of the hk protests was when they invaded the legislature and were applauded by the same liberals that went on to freak out about jan 6
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Aug 3, 2021 05:38
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Centrist Committee posted:where’s brutalist mcdonalds to post some epic CPC videos when you need them
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Aug 3, 2021 05:39
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taking a moment of sympathy for the hong kong protestors who completely failed to read the room and issued statements of support for the insurrectioners lol
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Aug 3, 2021 05:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMt-b89CxQ
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Aug 3, 2021 05:45
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