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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Animal Friend posted:

I can't sanction your buffoonery

calm down tommy

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

BrigadierSensible posted:

Whilst I know the actual and depressing answer:

Is NSW Labor doing anything, anything at all to take advantage of Gladys's gently caress ups?

Coz surely, even in the desolate plague ridden hellscape that is NSW, she must be losing popularity. So a half decent opposition would at least try to capitalize on this yeah?

I couldnt even tell you who the NSW labor leader is right now.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I keep thinking it's Kier Starmer

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

by Pragmatica

hooman posted:

Has anyone discussed what they're going to do about like children? Are we going to start vaccinating them too, or are we just going to accept that covid is going to hospitalise a bunch of kids.

A generation of kids hosed by long covid baybee

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

JBP posted:

I keep thinking it's Kier Starmer

Might as well be

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Box of Bunnies posted:

A generation of kids hosed by long covid baybee

Long covid is pretty hosed, and kids seem to get it in about one in twenty five cases and are plagued with getting wheezy and dumber and chronically tired regardless of how bad their infection was. Should be cared about more!

https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-783/

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782164

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Aug 5, 2021

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

The Peccadillo posted:

Should be cared about more!

lol this governments priority has never been kids or the future.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Is NSW Labor doing anything

The answer is always no.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

The Peccadillo posted:

kids... are plagued with getting wheezy and dumber and chronically tired regardless

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Long COVID gives them corruptive taste in music, too

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

The Peccadillo posted:

Long covid is pretty hosed, and kids ... are plagued with getting wheezy and dumber and chronically tired regardless of how bad their infection was.


gently caress it's turning them into Liberal voters!

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

hooman posted:

Has anyone discussed what they're going to do about like children? Are we going to start vaccinating them too, or are we just going to accept that covid is going to hospitalise a bunch of kids.

Only Pfizer as far as I am aware is even approved anywhere for anyone under 18 and that approval only goes down to 12. Phase 2 and 3 trials are ongoing and are promising.

If the dumb rear end messaging about AZ hadn't created so much vaccine hesitancy we'd have more Pfizer later this year to spare for those kids. And lets hope reglatory approval for under 12 comes by then. Oh and a competent vaccination plan with incentives and a bunch of smart people who actually realise that having a good messaging about the availible vaccines is a good idea rather than half assing the advice and completely failing to correctly communicate the actual science and risks and while I'm wishing for a magical pony how about a federal govt competent enough to pull that off and actually get 80% vaccination rate across the board and a NSW govt that would stop being such loving idiots and actually do a proper lockdown in affected areas and ring of steel Sydney at places like Hornsby, Windsor, Campbelltown, Helensburgh and Penrith so Delta cant get out and we dont drag this present lockdown for months?

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Whilst I know the actual and depressing answer:

Is NSW Labor doing anything, anything at all to take advantage of Gladys's gently caress ups?

Coz surely, even in the desolate plague ridden hellscape that is NSW, she must be losing popularity. So a half decent opposition would at least try to capitalize on this yeah?

The opposition leader started wearing North Face gear so people might accidentally think he’s Dan

NextWish
Sep 19, 2002

Hey folks, just published a report on the operation and effectiveness of the Aussie COVIDSafe tracing app.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/A...application.pdf

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

NextWish posted:

Hey folks, just published a report on the operation and effectiveness of the Aussie COVIDSafe tracing app.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/A...application.pdf

Gave it a quick readover and it was interesting, thanks.

My mum still has that crap installed and I remind her that it's been largely out of use for some time now, but alas.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
https://twitter.com/jrhennessy/status/1423154928168538113

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Wizard Master posted:

It would seem the olympic basketball court is not the only place that Boomers have once again let Aussies down

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Solemn Sloth posted:

The opposition leader started wearing North Face gear so people might accidentally think he’s Dan

This leads me to a serious question:

Whilst we all love our communist socialist Fuhrer Dictator Dan down here in Victoria, how is he seen beyond our borders?

The same way Gladys is still relatively liked/electable in Sydney/NSW, but is hated/unelectable by the rest of Australia.

Sorry for the myopic-ness of these questions.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Solemn Sloth posted:

The opposition leader started wearing North Face gear so people might accidentally think he’s Dan

Hibiki?

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

BrigadierSensible posted:

Whilst I know the actual and depressing answer:

Is NSW Labor doing anything, anything at all to take advantage of Gladys's gently caress ups?

Coz surely, even in the desolate plague ridden hellscape that is NSW, she must be losing popularity. So a half decent opposition would at least try to capitalize on this yeah?

the old leader fairly regularly called out gladys for not doing more and nobody listened, so…

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

i’d vote for Dan Hibiki

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


BrigadierSensible posted:

This leads me to a serious question:

Whilst we all love our communist socialist Fuhrer Dictator Dan down here in Victoria, how is he seen beyond our borders?

The same way Gladys is still relatively liked/electable in Sydney/NSW, but is hated/unelectable by the rest of Australia.

Sorry for the myopic-ness of these questions.

Here in SA Dan generally seems to be seen as someone who did make a bunch of mistakes last year, but then most importantly learned from them, and outside of the types who think Sky News is good you don't hear much said about him.

Gladys is getting a ton of flack because we've all put up with lockdowns having learned from our experiences that they work, and from Victoria last year what happens when you don't do one early enough.

Over the last 18 months I suspect that most Australians have had even less awareness than usual of the overall policies and approaches of other states premiers overall. When things are stressful we are all glued to our particular state/territory announcements, and when they are good people are tuned out of politics apart from watching disasters like NSW this year and Vic last year.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

BrigadierSensible posted:

This leads me to a serious question:

Whilst we all love our communist socialist Fuhrer Dictator Dan down here in Victoria, how is he seen beyond our borders?

The same way Gladys is still relatively liked/electable in Sydney/NSW, but is hated/unelectable by the rest of Australia.

Sorry for the myopic-ness of these questions.

News cycle happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9mF1KJr0s

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Aug 5, 2021

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

man this lockdown's got me bummed out

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
Should have lived in WA instead

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

norp posted:

Should have lived in WA instead

Correct, all the best goons live here.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
You east coast fuckers better keep to yourselves till the end of the month. I have a holiday up north booked so you better not get me locked down

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

norp posted:

Should have lived in WA instead

should've gone to hammonds

bell jar posted:

man this lockdown's got me bummed out

It really sucks to be free and clear then not.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

norp posted:

You east coast fuckers better keep to yourselves till the end of the month. I have a holiday up north booked so you better not get me locked down

It's probably gonna happen, man!

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Senor Tron posted:

Here in SA Dan generally seems to be seen as someone who did make a bunch of mistakes last year, but then most importantly learned from them, and outside of the types who think Sky News is good you don't hear much said about him.

This is my opinion of him as a Victorian too. I can forgive you for your mistakes, even if they get hundreds of people killed, if you... well, not admit to them, no politician will do that, but demonstrate that you learned from them and are changing your policy as a result. Compared to Gladys.

quote:

Over the last 18 months I suspect that most Australians have had even less awareness than usual of the overall policies and approaches of other states premiers overall. When things are stressful we are all glued to our particular state/territory announcements, and when they are good people are tuned out of politics apart from watching disasters like NSW this year and Vic last year.

This though, I disagree with. Few Australians knew who McGowan was in 2019 but now he's the poster child for border closures - despite those closures being a) good and enviable, and b) no different from SA's and Tasmania's.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

freebooter posted:

This is my opinion of him as a Victorian too. I can forgive you for your mistakes, even if they get hundreds of people killed, if you... well, not admit to them, no politician will do that, but demonstrate that you learned from them and are changing your policy as a result. Compared to Gladys.

This though, I disagree with. Few Australians knew who McGowan was in 2019 but now he's the poster child for border closures - despite those closures being a) good and enviable, and b) no different from SA's and Tasmania's.

I think a lot of that coverage came from Cliev arc-ing up about it and trying to sue him to force the borders open.

EDIT: Or because he's the only Labor premier to close borders and the Feds wanted to demonise him, and accidentally made him a hero because, you know, that was the right call.

hooman fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Aug 5, 2021

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

freebooter posted:

This is my opinion of him as a Victorian too. I can forgive you for your mistakes, even if they get hundreds of people killed, if you... well, not admit to them, no politician will do that, but demonstrate that you learned from them and are changing your policy as a result. Compared to Gladys.

This though, I disagree with. Few Australians knew who McGowan was in 2019 but now he's the poster child for border closures - despite those closures being a) good and enviable, and b) no different from SA's and Tasmania's.

I'd argue there's a difference with Tasmania's border...

RC Bandit
Sep 7, 2012

Hanson: It's Time

Grimey Drawer
Ok I'm starting to get annoyed that our government can't get their poo poo together as I'm STILL ineligible to get a vaccine (in Victoria).

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

freebooter posted:

This is my opinion of him as a Victorian too. I can forgive you for your mistakes, even if they get hundreds of people killed, if you... well, not admit to them, no politician will do that, but demonstrate that you learned from them and are changing your policy as a result. Compared to Gladys.

If Gladys came out tomorrow and announced a state wide lockdown for 2 weeks with the only things open being servos super markets and chemists and showed even the political version of admission of failure, It would go a loooong way. She's a human. A lovely LNP human, but a human all the same. Humans make mistakes. Accepting that you failed and learning from it is good. Pretending like you have the toughest lockdown of any state ever when you can still go to Bunnings and the reject shop and making the path out of lockdown the responsibility of the public and victim blaming people for not taking vaccines they can't loving get is pissing off everyone.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I'm guessing that Bunnings is loving packed during the lockdown.

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

RC Bandit posted:

Ok I'm starting to get annoyed that our government can't get their poo poo together as I'm STILL ineligible to get a vaccine (in Victoria).



Vaccines have been available for so long now that I think the wisdom of reserving them for particular groups has probably passed.

Just let anyone get a vaccine, allow bookings for the current priority groups with extra lead time so they can secure a booking easier even if they have to wait. (I.e. any open booking for the current week is open to anyone, any bookings more than a week out reserved for the priority groups)

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

I'm guessing that Bunnings is loving packed during the lockdown.

Everytime someone online says 'NSW isn't doing a proper hard lockdown, just copy Victoria!' a bunch of people from NSW reply 'What? Nah, it is a hard lockdown, I've barely seen anyone out and about. They're pretty quick when they go into bunnings, not many people browsing, you don't need to click and collect if you're quick. And people are pretty good about their masks too, it's not like you need to wear one when exercising outside anyway'.

And I just struggle to wrap my head around their mental gymnastics. Because by contrast, when WA did our lockdown my story was 'I have no idea what other people have been doing because I only left my house to go straight to my job and back - or not at all.'

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

BrigadierSensible posted:

This leads me to a serious question:

Whilst we all love our communist socialist Fuhrer Dictator Dan down here in Victoria, how is he seen beyond our borders?

The same way Gladys is still relatively liked/electable in Sydney/NSW, but is hated/unelectable by the rest of Australia.

Sorry for the myopic-ness of these questions.

he's got big ears

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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



i think mcgowan got lucky in that the correct course of action was also what western australia as a whole had been chomping at the bit to do for the last 192 years anyway

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