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Watched F9 last night, outside on a friend's projector, very much like a Toretto get together. Glorious flick! I give it an F9 out of 10. Or out of 11! Man I'm pumped for F10 and 11. I loved that Roman got that badass moment near the beginning spinning around with the assault rifle. And all that other craziness. That was on my wishlist, since he gets the funny butt of the joke moments, wanted to see him just slay fools. Since that brings balance to the force. Masterful stuff. Loved that subplot about being invincible too. Echoing everything said here (also - I want Nic Cage!), great to see the Fast crew again. They just get it. That said, do get lucky charm Chris Morgan back in the writing team for 10 and 11.
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Nic Cage can be long lost Uncle Rico. I'll pivot and say Channing Tatum can be Cousin Eduardo. Mr. Nobody pulled them both out of a jail in the western province of China for attempting to rob a casino in Macau and actually were on a nearby space station that used it's Also Vince is alive, Mr. Nobody faked his death in Brazil. Same with Jesse. Both were brought in by Mr. Nobody to take down a robotic Johnny Tran. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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Aug 2, 2021 03:49
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Hell yeah! You mentioning Macau reminds me, we need Chow Yun-Fat as well. And personally I'd get a kick out of Edge (Money Plane's Adam Copeland) showing up as a villain goon fighting Cena. And bring back Eva Mendez's character of course, bonus Ghost Rider reunion. Really, just anybody who was around and cool in 2006, they probably deserve a spot here. Also, I need to watch this again. This is such a dense meal of a Fast film, this will take three viewings to really take it all in I think. A feast. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 2, 2021 |
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Not sure where I stand on this yet. There was a lot to like, but a few parts just felt off. Was there this much gunfire in the last movie? Or five and six? If there was, then there was something about how it was presented in this movie that threw the tempo off. Like the guns were given prominence over the cars. Another point where the tempo felt off was with Ramsey driving the truck. The cutting between the driving and the closeups on her for the one liners didn’t seem to work.
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Aug 2, 2021 04:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aldDI2WF7g
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Aug 2, 2021 04:44
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Dom helping up The Rock was probably top 5 moment in the history of cinema
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Aug 2, 2021 04:54
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I lolled that they went with the forearm grip. Helping someone up by the hand was apparently too wussy.
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Aug 2, 2021 09:24
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The Rock's biceps are probably firmer than his handshake
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Aug 2, 2021 09:29
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If you'll grant that I'm not completely wrong about F9 not working, what is it that makes this scene work but the F9 stuff not? Maybe it's because F5 is still more car-centred. The Brazil scene has them pointedly isolated from their cars, underlining that they're out of their element. Hell, at the start, they're even trapped in someone else's car. In F9, on the other hand, there seem to be points where the guns are prioritized over cars. Roman going Rambo in the opening scene is one such point, but another that really stands out is Han being introduced via sniper rifle. Like, that just felt off to me. The movie even kind of foregrounds this. At the start of the movie, with Dom working on his car, when the other car arrives unannounced he and Letty abandon the car and grab guns. Something that gets repeated after this is that "this is not them." And it's not! They abandoned their cars for guns. Or when Jacob says that the "spy game" world or whatever isn't for them. I wanna say he's right. Sean and Twinkie and Earl are such a counterpoint to all this. They're still doing goofy poo poo with cars, dreaming about what can be accomplished with automotives. Through them, Tej and Roman defeat the spy satellite superweapon with an old car and some duct tape.
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Aug 2, 2021 14:31
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After f8 disappointing me and hobbes/shaw being awful it was easy for me to enjoy f9 and the fan service stuff they threw in. Was fun to see the Tokyo drift crew again and I thought the set pieces were more fun than the two I mentioned.
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Aug 2, 2021 16:31
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This got me watching Fast Five again and it's impressive how much better a movie it is than F9. F9 is just 5 run through a copy machine several times. It also helps that the Rock is just really good in it and it doesn't take much work to make the Rock seem cool. John Cena is never cool in F9. The Rock does more acting with his eyes than Cena can do with anything.
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Aug 2, 2021 17:10
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I've always had Fast Five as my number 1 in the franchise, and part of the greatness of F5 is that it only takes place in one location. Especially the last 2 or 3 movies crammed way to much different locations in each film, which made the plot less coherent. (As far as you can speak of a coherent plot in a F&F movie of course)
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I really like F6 because you’ve got the entire crew hanging out and interacting with each other. Roman pointing out the doppelgänger crew was cheap laughs but it worked
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Clear_Blue posted:I've always had Fast Five as my number 1 in the franchise, and part of the greatness of F5 is that it only takes place in one location. Yeah once they started aping the Bond and M:I franchises they have wanted the travelogue aspect but it's actually kind of tough to do without audiences going "sorry, we're where now? And why...?"
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Aug 2, 2021 21:17
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Finally seen F9. I'm certainly curious about the next two movies, with what one-upping every previous one. F9 was pretty ridiculous as it was.
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The should bring back Leon. But the twist is while Dom and his crew were out doing there thing he just became a average middle age dad. That way you got a great straight man since now we got Roman just going with the flow now with the whole "learning to take things on faith" thing in 9.
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Watched this at home yesterday, theres janky cgi all over but I kept on rewinding this part. https://gfycat.com/thoseincompletearkshell.mp4 Sorry about the quality, I'm at work and can only find a 360p youtube video. (of the entire movie. lol) Just the way she whips her head so fast and so far behind with her shoulders barely moving. If I look behind me wrong while driving I get a stiff neck. 
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Aug 3, 2021 18:21
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The CGI in F9 is in general laughably bad. At one point in the jungle when they are talking next to where the cars went off the cliff, they would have been better off using a matte painting.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:This got me watching Fast Five again and it's impressive how much better a movie it is than F9. F9 is just 5 run through a copy machine several times. It also helps that the Rock is just really good in it and it doesn't take much work to make the Rock seem cool. John Cena is never cool in F9. The Rock does more acting with his eyes than Cena can do with anything. I have a feeling that Vin probably watched some wrestling and saw the Rock & Cena feud and hired the latter purely out of pettiness. I hoped we might at least get something half as decent as what the Rock brought to the franchise but Cena might as well not have been in the movie, and the one time Dom and Jacob fight is incredibly boring, it comes nowhere close to how entertaining (and surprisingly emotional) it was when Hobbs and Dom finally fought each other in Fast Five. I don't think the Rock is an amazing actor but he was a perfect fit for the F&F franchise and his absence is noticeable, he did a great job of elevating other characters like Dom & Shaw. I think Vin probably wanted Dom to be the big hulk, especially given that scene where he locks the door and pulls down all the concrete which seemed like it was supposed to be Hobbs there instead. I'm just glad that we haven't lost Shaw and saw Han pay him a visit during the credits. F9 is definitely one of the weakest entries in the franchise for me and really feels like a missed opportunity. If Vin wanted to get another wrestler in the franchise then Dave Bautista can actually act, has charisma and would have been far more convincing as Dom's brother. I could see them both playing off each other in a really entertaining way and they wouldn't have needed to compensate with a lot of the scenes that drag F9 down as a result.
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Bautista already said he would never bother with a f&f movie. Which is a shame, he would be fun.
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I really like Cena, there's something quirky about his acting style I like. When it comes to being a hammy big facial expressions angry guy, there's just something fun about how Cena does it. His line delivery too etc. And we know he can do comedy, I feel his character has a lot of potential. We ain't Cena nothing yet. Big Dave is great in Guardians, but overall I think Cena has more potential right now. On The Rock vs Vin, not that I need a side in this zillionaire mega battle, but for this series I concur with Vin. Creatively he's done a good job, that writer Chris Morgan has talked about how Vin came up with good ideas etc. When The Rock had more creative control in Hobbs & Shaw, I felt it resulted in a weaker movie. And I feel Hobbs is all wrong now. He would've fit great into the ensemble if he continued being a very cranky, smashing things, more action than words kind of guy. Now he's a congenial jokey gentle family man character, not unlike all his other roles. That edge made Hobbs different, and even for comedy that could have been played for laughs in a more creative way. Think Cable in Deadpool 2 for an extreme example of what I'm thinking there. Or Karl Urban's Judge Dredd. Would be cool if he showed up to help in F11, but I think him being a highlight of one arc of the series fits ok as well. Agreed that it's nice to see Shaw, and of course Han. All F10 needs is more Chris Morgan, because he's a genius, and apparently that may happen. https://screenrant.com/fast-furious-10-11-movie-filming-details/
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Yeah, Hobbs worked in 5, 6 and 7 but if Fate and Hobbs & Shaw are any indication, I'm glad The Rock is done with it. He was slowly homogenizing into his usual safe-for-all-quadrants persona and it didn't gel.
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Cage posted:Watched this at home yesterday, theres janky cgi all over but I kept on rewinding this part. Ugh this is what happens when you shoot a bunch of footage in a jungle or forest and then want to mess with the timing of individual parts later on. And then timing out the motorcycle plate so the head move is at the right moment and the bike is in the right place probably makes it unnatural feeling. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Aug 6, 2021 |
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah, Hobbs worked in 5, 6 and 7 but if Fate and Hobbs & Shaw are any indication, I'm glad The Rock is done with it. He was slowly homogenizing into his usual safe-for-all-quadrants persona and it didn't gel. Yeah this, Hobbs and Shaw was rear end and really soured me on seeing anything else The Rock is in going forward and I can't say I missed his presence here. Cena may not be the best actor but he was hilarious in this film. He wasn't given a lot to do but he did all of it with thid goofy seriousness and I was cracking up almost every time he was on screen. The zoom in shot of his mischievous eyes when he breaks out of his jailcell had me losing it in the theater
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I just saw the Suicide Squad and retract what I said about Cena, the guy is actually great so I'm going to put it down to a really terrible script and having nothing to work with in F9. He was entertaining in SS and I just saw this clip of something called Trainwreck which is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCvg2G2SEhU
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yeah Cena is funny as poo poo when he has good material to work with, him and LeBron were the best parts of Trainwreck
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SUNKOS posted:F9 is definitely one of the weakest entries in the franchise for me and really feels like a missed opportunity. If Vin wanted to get another wrestler in the franchise then Dave Bautista can actually act, has charisma and would have been far more convincing as Dom's brother. I could see them both playing off each other in a really entertaining way and they wouldn't have needed to compensate with a lot of the scenes that drag F9 down as a result. If you watched 8 you cannot say this in good conscience. 8 is actively undermining most of the character development of the series, with awful action direction, and no connection for the set pieces that Lin is really good at. 9 is certainly not peak F&F but its basically back at the floor for these films which is at worst, silly but consistent. It's easily middle of the pack instead of among the weakest. Everything about 9 was "they did just enough for me to accept this on screen". Which is a far cry from the complete buy in that 5 gives you, but 5 is really exceptional. I think the biggest "missed opportunity" is that Cena makes way more sense as Brian's brother, but without Paul they can't tell that story. We didn't need more Toretto's but we could have used another O'Connor.
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well why not posted:the guy was never a baby-face which makes it a bit easier to swallow, but he's clearly not in his early 20s. I'd love to know exactly when Lin places Tokyo Drift, but really they're best off just playing it loose. This won't be an issue once they finally officially introduce time travel as an element of the series. Snowman_McK posted:The genuinely surprising part of these movies is that we still haven't gotten a decent video game out of them. They lend themselves so well to some sort of "diddy kong racing but sexy/gritty" formula, where some people are in planes, some in hovercraft, some in tanks and so on. It's weird that we never got it. Then again, I guess video game adaptations of film properties have been dying off for a long time. They used to be almost guaranteed. There have been a few F&F arcade games, one series with cars and another with SUPER BIKES and you can still usually find at least one or the other at any given lovely movie theater arcade, but they're just pretty generic racers, nothing about them really screams Fast and Furious other than the inclusion of NAWWWWSSSSS as a turbo button. WhyteRyce posted:Nic Cage can be long lost Uncle Rico. I'll pivot and say Channing Tatum can be Cousin Eduardo. Mr. Nobody pulled them both out of a jail in the western province of China for attempting to rob a casino in Macau and actually were on a nearby space station that used it's If we're bringing in Nic Cage, it's gotta be his character from Gone in 60 Seconds. raditts fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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raditts posted:If we're bringing in Nic Cage, it's gotta be his character from Gone in 60 Seconds.
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Snowman_McK posted:The genuinely surprising part of these movies is that we still haven't gotten a decent video game out of them. They lend themselves so well to some sort of "diddy kong racing but sexy/gritty" formula, where some people are in planes, some in hovercraft, some in tanks and so on. It's weird that we never got it. Then again, I guess video game adaptations of film properties have been dying off for a long time. They used to be almost guaranteed. raditts posted:There have been a few F&F arcade games, one series with cars and another with SUPER BIKES and you can still usually find at least one or the other at any given lovely movie theater arcade, but they're just pretty generic racers, nothing about them really screams Fast and Furious other than the inclusion of NAWWWWSSSSS as a turbo button.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Everything about 9 was "they did just enough for me to accept this on screen". Which is a far cry from the complete buy in that 5 gives you, but 5 is really exceptional. I think the biggest "missed opportunity" is that Cena makes way more sense as Brian's brother, but without Paul they can't tell that story. We didn't need more Toretto's but we could have used another O'Connor. Roman is O'Connors' brother / lover.
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2 Fast 2 Furious is indeed one of the best bromances ever put to film. When Roman talks about how he's alone, and Brian says "not anymore cuz", it does bring a tear to the eye. Goddamn it that's beautiful. Agreed Cena rocked in The Suicide Squad, and I tell ya, he's gonna deliver the goods in abundance F10 and 11. This guy is on right now. And there's gotta be a way we can get our Nic Cage ideas to the studio.
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Heavy Metal posted:Agreed Cena rocked in The Suicide Squad, and I tell ya, he's gonna deliver the goods in abundance F10 and 11. This guy is on right now. I just hope they let him be funny. After seeing Suicide Squad I'm annoyed they didn't do anything other than have him be angry bad guy. He was funny as poo poo in Suicide Squad.
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well why not posted:Roman is O'Connors' brother / lover. Well you got me there. And who can say no to Roman after all the tanning he's been doing, you'd hardly recognize his sheen!
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AFewBricksShy posted:I just hope they let him be funny. After seeing Suicide Squad I'm annoyed they didn't do anything other than have him be angry bad guy. He was funny as poo poo in Suicide Squad. Yeah, Cena is good when he's doing comedy as he's able to say the stupidest things with complete earnestness.
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Would anyone be opposed to renaming this to a Fast & Furious general thread?
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Rename it Fast And Furious: Tokyo Drift Chronological Theorem Society
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well why not posted:Rename it Fast And Furious: Tokyo Drift Chronological Theorem Society I like this one
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Fast & Furious: Temporal Drift
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