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Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I appreciate. Always enjoyed yours.

:)

quote:

People are acting out, stay home even if you're not worried about covid-19. A year and a half of concentrated American insanity is going down.

Yeah, we're in for riot season soon. My guess is that it's going to be right wing riot season and it's going to be nasty. Stay off the streets and let them suck roni.

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Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

wow now biden is antivax now

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Okay so I cancelled my third dose appointment due to fascists in the forecast, and now I’ve got a choice to make again about what to call myself. Is there any drawback to using my real information and maybe fibbing a little about my immune status? I don’t see how that would possibly come back to bite me, but am I missing anything?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Real Mean Queen posted:

Okay so I cancelled my third dose appointment due to fascists in the forecast, and now I’ve got a choice to make again about what to call myself. Is there any drawback to using my real information and maybe fibbing a little about my immune status? I don’t see how that would possibly come back to bite me, but am I missing anything?

There is no moral judgment in lying to protect yourself.

Get that booster.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020



LOL at the tweet and a gut-busting LMAO at the gif.

So what's the deal with getting the third shot?
Do we just saunter into a CVS / Walgreens and ask for the third shot?

Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020
I dunno. I think the time for fake names is now. Before Max Titers completes the 50 state vaccine tour. If anything, you can bank your real name shot for the spring.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Got my poo poo hosed up by Covid once, not looking forward to it again. gently caress waiting 8 months, hit me right now.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

We're barely at 50% fully vaccinated lmao. Right now, with vaccination being free.

i'm calling the booster rate to be around 50% of those, so around 25% of the population.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I burned bridges with good friends I posted with for over a decade here by saying they shouldn't go to brunch.

My sister and I don't talk anymore because I told her she shouldn't be going to bars even if she was vaccinated.

This thread has been right more often than not, lol.

Same. I lit all of my political favors on fire for nothing and stressed my family out. I remember getting tone policed by my brother for talking about covid. Not that anything was necessarily wrong with what I was saying but that the tone sucked. Though lol, I was not handling looking at the future of America back in March of 2020. Even viewed dimly it was going to be grim and I was not handling it well. So he was onto something even if he was missing the mark.

I still think the same things I do but I'm just calm about it now. Not zen, just chill. I still get anxiety about it but it's extremely manageable. I just have some tea and focus on my breathing.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


jetz0r posted:

i'm calling the booster rate to be around 50% of those, so around 25% of the population.

It's incredible how we were handed a cheat code such that everyone in this forum, doomers through and through, sighed a sigh of relief, and then... nobody loving got it. lmao. hahahahhahaha.

AppleNippleBOB
May 13, 2007



I assume I should wait a few weeks before a booster (just got un-quarantined/freed to get back to the covid mines after a breakthrough infection).

Or should I Max my Titters tomorrow?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Ice Phisherman posted:

Same. I lit all of my political favors on fire for nothing and stressed my family out. I remember getting tone policed by my brother for talking about covid. Not that anything was necessarily wrong with what I was saying but that the tone sucked. Though lol, I was not handling looking at the future of America back in March of 2020. Even viewed dimly it was going to be grim and I was not handling it well. So he was onto something even if he was missing the mark.

I still think the same things I do but I'm just calm about it now. Not zen, just chill. I still get anxiety about it but it's extremely manageable. I just have some tea and focus on my breathing.

My family is mostly bizzarro rural socialists that just let poo poo happen to them Republican-style. One of my brother's best friends died due to covid at 24. She was heavy so everyone is all "she was fat, rip" but so is most of America. Hole up, read a book or sixteen, just go with it. You aren't doing anything wrong and don't think you are. There's nothing wrong with protecting yourself and your loved ones.

My wife's grandmother is 97 years old and we've been spending as much time with her as we can. I'm just happy we got to see her again. I was so worried she'd die before we could see her again. Good outcomes are possible.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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lmao my boss has been ordered into isolation due to that illegal engagement party in Melbourne. We're all dead rip. 95% of the office is unvaccinated due to no supply for under 40 year olds.

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There is no moral judgment in lying to protect yourself.

Get that booster.

Oh I have no moral qualms on this one whatsoever, I just don’t know if I’ve got the acting chops to pull off showing up in a respirator and acting like I just this second became concerned about covid. I’d prefer to be honest purely for the sake of simplicity, I’m just wondering if that can bite me later

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Real Mean Queen posted:

Okay so I cancelled my third dose appointment due to fascists in the forecast, and now I’ve got a choice to make again about what to call myself. Is there any drawback to using my real information and maybe fibbing a little about my immune status? I don’t see how that would possibly come back to bite me, but am I missing anything?

use your real information so it isn't a pain in the rear end to keep your documents straight later and just get the shot

vaccines are spoiling and they're throwing them away as we speak. there's absolutely no reason not to get one now as opposed to when some loving rear end in a top hat who's let hundreds of thousands of people die in his 40+ years of medicine says its ok for you to get one in december because you born in 1990 and you're a pisces

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Business Gorillas posted:

just get the shot

vaccines are spoiling and they're throwing them away as we speak.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


UnfortunateSexFart posted:

lmao my boss has been ordered into isolation due to that illegal engagement party in Melbourne. We're all dead rip. 95% of the office is unvaccinated due to no supply for under 40 year olds.

how close a contact was he?
do you need to get tested and isolate too now?

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

lmao my boss has been ordered into isolation due to that illegal engagement party in Melbourne. We're all dead rip. 95% of the office is unvaccinated due to no supply for under 40 year olds.

ausfailia

McNugget Buddy
Aug 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

AppleNippleBOB posted:

I assume I should wait a few weeks before a booster (just got un-quarantined/freed to get back to the covid mines after a breakthrough infection).

Or should I Max my Titters tomorrow?

Found this:

https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2021/08/how-long-to-wait-after-having-covid-to-get-vaccine

quote:

If you’ve had Covid-19, you’ve probably wondered: How long should you wait until you get vaccinated?

There is a time frame in which your natural immunity has built up from the virus, but that immunity seems to only last for about three to six months. Vaccination is the next step to receive the best protection against hospitalization and death from Covid-19.

“You should wait about a month after recovering from the virus to get vaccinated,” says Morgan McSweeney, a scientist studying immunology in southwest Florida. “Once you’ve recovered and you are out of the quarantine period, your immunity is at the same efficiency as if you’ve received the first dose of immunization.”

Just like people waiting 28 days between the first and second dose of the mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna, McSweeney says health professionals are advising patients to wait about the same time between having Covid and getting the first dose. This way, your body can build up natural antibodies against the virus, and have the added protection of the vaccine when administered.

Then, 28 days after the first vaccine, people can return for their second immunization. Or, if they’ve received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, they only need one dose.

“You can certainly wait longer than 28 days to get vaccinated after having Covid—that is fine. It’s still going to give you a strong booster effect,” says McSweeney. “But I wouldn’t get it sooner than three weeks.”

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

AppleNippleBOB posted:

I assume I should wait a few weeks before a booster (just got un-quarantined/freed to get back to the covid mines after a breakthrough infection).

Or should I Max my Titters tomorrow?

Your antibodies should be pretty high for a couple months after recovery. Idk, I'm in no way a medical professional but maybe slap them with a boost next month to keep your immune system angry?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


loving wild that populations that thought the pandemic was over are engaging in risky behavior and rekindling the pandemic. Truly unpredictable.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I haven't been to an indoor restaurant since March of 2020. My wife and I have paid off all our debt except our mortgage. I am down 25 lbs from where I was in March of 2020. I can ride my bike 110 miles in one day. I will never go back to my old lifestyle and I don't give a gently caress what capital thinks of that. I don't need that poo poo anymore.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Tink enjoys the fact that I never leave the house anymore

Lovelyn
Jul 8, 2008

Eat more beans

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

So, second shot for me was April 20th (I'm not weed friendly because my lungs are already garbage so I wanted to do some kind of drugs on 4/20). So... what, December 19th or so? Or 2 weeks after second shot?

Edibles, my friend

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Helith posted:

how close a contact was he?
do you need to get tested and isolate too now?

His dad went to the same Coles minutes before one of the party goers so not that close. Their family already tested negative so it's just super (safely).

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Real Mean Queen posted:

Okay so I cancelled my third dose appointment due to fascists in the forecast, and now I’ve got a choice to make again about what to call myself. Is there any drawback to using my real information and maybe fibbing a little about my immune status? I don’t see how that would possibly come back to bite me, but am I missing anything?

My personal opinion is that we both will and won't see fascists in the forecast.

America is really big. Some places are more predisposed to fascism and some aren't. Some places will have fascists rise up and seize power only for the roni to continually strike them down because they're dumb as gently caress. Some won't. Some may fall into anarchy. Some may have some sort of functioning government or at least get organized. So America is going to be all over the loving place in terms of political response.

During a pandemic the fash are going to have a really hard time congregating in a single place to do some real street violence. The hard core are generally drawn in from far and wide.

Even if some strong daddy figure emerges, any fascist rallies are going to be superspreader events.

Most of the BLM protests had popular local support along with a traveling hard corps of activists. This isn't the same for the fash who generally have to travel quite a distance to get to where they need to go. They're just going to get sick as gently caress because one of them is going to get a shitload more of them sick. And when their numbers keep continually getting worn down they'll lose control of the streets, if they ever had control in the first place rather than randomly showing up and terrifying people.

The current fascists are too dumb to thrive in this sort of environment for the long haul and they 100% require the police to support them and the police are getting whittled down by covid, retirement and plain old quitting.

Hotspots like Portland are going to be a nightmare though. Fash and anti-fash central are probably going to have it out.

Riot season is going to be crazy though. The government is way more likely to go mask off because it's weak, so it'll crack down immediately to keep popular unrest from snowballing. So let the fash and the authoritarians exhaust themselves and keep your head down.

Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Aug 17, 2021

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
I have to be in the office for my job and deal with literally hundreds of people every day.

Haven't met a loud & proud anti-vaxx/covid denier in the wild but if I did I'd have a hard time not melting down into a berserk tirade.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




well i'm only three months ahead of schedule then

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Ice Phisherman posted:

My personal opinion is that we both will and won't see fascists in the forecast.

America is really big. Some places are more predisposed to fascism and some aren't. Some places will have fascists rise up and seize power only for the roni to continually strike them down because they're dumb as gently caress. And during a pandemic they're going to have a really hard time congregating in a single place to do some real street violence.

Even if some strong daddy figure emerges, any fascist rallies are going to be superspreader events.

Most of the BLM protests had popular local support along with a traveling hard corps of activists. This isn't the same for the fash who generally have to travel quite a distance to get to where they need to go. They're just going to get sick as gently caress. And when their numbers keep continually getting worn down they'll lose control of the streets, if they ever had control in the first place rather than randomly showing up and terrifying people.

The current fascists are too dumb to thrive in this sort of environment for the long haul and they 100% require the police to support them and the police are getting whittled down by covid, retirement and plain old quitting.

Hotspots like Portland are going to be a nightmare though. Fash and anti-fash central are probably going to have it out.

Riot season is going to be crazy though. Everyone should keep their heads down.

Oh I meant it very literally, there is a scheduled proud boy rally a few blocks from the pharmacy on the same day I was planning on going. I cancelled that appointment because gently caress trying to walk through that area in a respirator while that's going on

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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If I die I leave my token Melbourne covid thread street cred to Snowglobe of Doom.

Poke
Mar 1, 2004
I got the 2nd Pfizer shot at the end of April. Got rapid tested Sunday cuz 2 coworkers tested positive. Yup. I got it too. In the hopeful event that I recover when should I lie and get the drat Moderna booster?

Pray for me

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Real Mean Queen posted:

Oh I meant it very literally, there is a scheduled proud boy rally a few blocks from the pharmacy on the same day I was planning on going. I cancelled that appointment because gently caress trying to walk through that area in a respirator while that's going on

Oh, gently caress, lol.

Yeah miss me with that poo poo. gently caress.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Poke posted:

I got the 2nd Pfizer shot at the end of April. Got rapid tested Sunday cuz 2 coworkers tested positive. Yup. I got it too. In the hopeful event that I recover when should I lie and get the drat Moderna booster?

Pray for me

*hums another one bites the dust*

Shoulda worn a respirator

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I've been fully vaccinated since February, through my employer. We're due back in the office in two weeks and there's no talk of a booster yet or holding off on going back in. hehe.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020

Poke posted:

I got the 2nd Pfizer shot at the end of April. Got rapid tested Sunday cuz 2 coworkers tested positive. Yup. I got it too. In the hopeful event that I recover when should I lie and get the drat Moderna booster?

Pray for me

That sucks. When you recover, looks like give it a month and boost away.

AppleNippleBOB
May 13, 2007





Zeroisanumber posted:

Your antibodies should be pretty high for a couple months after recovery. Idk, I'm in no way a medical professional but maybe slap them with a boost next month to keep your immune system angry?

:hmmyes:
Thanks goons


Might try and Open Biden for a lil bit (*prob wont, for a variety of reasons, some goon realted)

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Poke posted:

I got the 2nd Pfizer shot at the end of April. Got rapid tested Sunday cuz 2 coworkers tested positive. Yup. I got it too. In the hopeful event that I recover when should I lie and get the drat Moderna booster?

Pray for me

Conventional wisdom seems to be a month after you recover.

How you feeling?

shackleford
Sep 4, 2006

Thoguh posted:

The 8 month window is 100% entirely because we are about 8 months out from the initial mass rollout and they are terrified of news articles about widows unable to find an appointment because sickos who got the jab in March want some juice.

this, but also

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/07/08/joint-cdc-and-fda-statement-vaccine-boosters.html

quote:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

July 8, 2021

Joint CDC and FDA Statement on Vaccine Boosters

The United States is fortunate to have highly effective vaccines that are widely available for those aged 12 and up. People who are fully vaccinated are protected from severe disease and death, including from the variants currently circulating in the country such as Delta. People who are not vaccinated remain at risk. Virtually all COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths are among those who are unvaccinated. We encourage Americans who have not yet been vaccinated to get vaccinated as soon as possible to protect themselves and their community.

Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster shot at this time. FDA, CDC, and NIH are engaged in a science-based, rigorous process to consider whether or when a booster might be necessary. This process takes into account laboratory data, clinical trial data, and cohort data – which can include data from specific pharmaceutical companies, but does not rely on those data exclusively. We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed. We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed.

this was about 7 months after the very first non-trial vaccinations were given in the U.S.

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I'm too loving lazy to pull the data for this thread, but anyone here can go find the numbers for German vaccinations vs. German deaths from Delta compared to the US.

lol

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