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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: SOMA. Although it has some enemies, there's a setting you can turn on so they can't hurt you. (they're still loud and creepy though) Edit: although it has flying as well as walking, Cloudpunk is pretty much a walking simulator with point A to point B delivery missions (and an open world you can explore too for atmosphere and story beats). It's really really great.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:SOMA. Although it has some enemies, there's a setting you can turn on so they can't hurt you. (they're still loud and creepy though) Oh gently caress yeah the plot of SOMA is really good. If you don't mind screaming at the main character for a loving brainlet about the whole thing 
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Aug 17, 2021 15:21
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OwlFancier posted:I also cannot help but feel that even if I believed it, constantly saying to people "we are whatever you want us to be" in contrast to the tories coming up with an actual platform, is probably not going to go favourably for labour in an election. No, losing elections is straight up the point now. It won't take much more before Labour can't win an election however bad the Tories are, and there is no other party that can possibly beat the Tories. With permanent Tory government assured, their job will be done.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:22
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: The Old City Leviathan is good if you can get it for a couple of quid.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:27
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Lol https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1427637402798116870
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Aug 17, 2021 15:28
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Lmao what the gently caress are you gonna do about it keith?
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Aug 17, 2021 15:29
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I mean he was a DPP those seem like very DPP opinions. Not even including the new labour fetishism.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:29
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Refusing to recognize them as the government when they are materially governing the place seems like perfect angry dad energy. Like yes they are poo poo but I don't think they are going to give the faintest poo poo whether keir starmer thinks they are allowed to be the government.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:31
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Does he think this is how he can convince people he's a new Tony Blair? What a piece of poo poo.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:31
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OwlFancier posted:Refusing to recognize them as the government when they are materially governing the place seems like perfect angry dad energy. Not recognising someone as the legitimate government despite them governing is just a liberal excuse to justify military interventions in the future. "oh no, we'd never interfere in another countrys internal affairs and install a puppet government on our behalf - we're actually re-instating the ACTUAL (friendly to us) government!"
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Aug 17, 2021 15:33
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I think that necessitates 1. the ability of the UK to actually launch a credible military action against anywhere, which I think the last 20 years have clearly demonstrated they do not have the ability to do. And 2. that anybody loving wants to reinvade afghanistan, which I think the last 20 years have extremely effectively made politically impossible. Genuinely I do not think there are more than a hundred people in the UK who actually want to reinvade afghanistan and all of them run the labour party.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:35
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Who's favourables are better - Starmer or Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar ?
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Aug 17, 2021 15:38
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play: Outer Wilds is kind of a walking simulator. Play Outer Wilds. Everyone should play Outer Wilds.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:40
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Guavanaut posted:There's a bunch of people who are convinced that you just have to run X 'like a business' and it'll work better, because a business is the best thing and market capitalism is the only thing that actually works and everything else is just pretend. I've daydreamed about getting elected on a platform of "running the government like a business" and then relentlessly pursuing a policy of "maximising value to shareholders" by essentially nationalising everything. We can start by rebranding taxes as "subscriptions to civilisation". Obviously the primary job of the government under traditional notions of a sovereign state is to provide safety and security of the wealth and property of the state and its inhabitants, so subscription fees will be directly tied to the amount of property and wealth you want to be protected (most citizen-shareholders will be eligible for our free tier, where you will still receive the full secondary benefits like healthcare and education). Any wealth or property over the maximum cap for subscribers will remit to our business for the prurpose of enhancing services and improving return on investment for citizen-shareholders. If you are found to be in violation of the Terms of Service by attempting to possess more property and wealth than your subscription tier allows, unfortunately we'll have no choice but to terminate your subscription to civilisation. Your assets in these circumstances will not be returned to you. In the interest of streamlining and efficiency saving we will be bringing all of our public facing products like railways and healthcare back fully in-house to maximise the benefits that vertical integration can provide in a business with such a huge scope. Subscription fees may have to go up for our highest tier subscribers, but we're confident that the overall experience for most subscribers (particularly those at the free-tier) will be markedly improved. While other businesses can of course continue to operate on our premises, we will also be insisting that any citizen-shareholders of UK Inc. who are employed by these businesses have a collective voice on the boardroom of said businesses, in the interest of improving the operational performance and competitiveness. Please note that any mistreatment of citizen-shareholders employed by businesses on our premises can lead to sanctions up to and including immediate termination of the civilisation subscriptions of both the business and its owners, potentially leaving them open to retaliatory actions as their persons and property will no longer be subject to protection.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:42
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Failed Imagineer posted:Agile cannot fail, it can only be failed. The fact that it is always shite is only because nobody every implements it right. The research has shown that removing all the meeting room furniture and having 20minute stand up meetings every morning will make productivity go up Up UP ASK me about the job where we were falling behind so the manager instituted two stand ups a day, morning and afternoon, each about half an hour.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:56
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OwlFancier posted:If the spokes is "regions and nations" then I have to wonder what the hub is apart from whatever dimension evan's brain is occupying, because last I checked everyone else lives in a region or a nation. If the current Labour project is about anything, it's about the total extinguishing of hope. That's how I see it anyway: just smothering any aspirations for a better society under a blanket of dull, grey, spiteful, empty managerialism.
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Aug 17, 2021 15:58
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Failed Imagineer posted:Trolling in higher dimensions is how you justify your Guardian salary. It feels like Corbyn's kids are some of the few children of prominent socialists who managed not to turn into cunts.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:02
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feedmegin posted:ASK me about the job where we were falling behind so the manager instituted two stand ups a day, morning and afternoon, each about half an hour. Ooh ooh I have a question! How long did you last?
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Aug 17, 2021 16:05
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https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1427567605141889030?s=20 FFS (Not Ash, the thing she is replying to). And https://twitter.com/livelaughlarne/status/1427253985489076231?s=20
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Aug 17, 2021 16:06
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https://twitter.com/SteveTransform/status/1427595900193476614?s=20 I didn't realise that Blair actually gave heroin as the second reason to invade Afghanistan. Funny how the pro-intervention people never mention that anymore!
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Aug 17, 2021 16:09
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/Kate_M_Proctor/status/1427597266106339331 just think, we're mere days and weeks away from hearing about politics-as-a-service i'm going to PaaS myself.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:25
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https://twitter.com/shirleymush/status/1427559735734198293 gerard coyne likes to hear gerard coyne talk about gerard coyne.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:29
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Ugh. The more I think about it, the more depressed I get about what's happened to Labour under Starmer: the party's been completely captured by the Establishment, so even if Labour win an election, nothing will meaningfully change. There might be lip service given to "let's be slightly less cruel and malevolent towards certain approved minority groups", but the party is now beholden to the same powerful people, the same institutions, the same money as the Tories (and the Lib Dems). The political consensus has become ever-narrower, and anything outside it will be screamed down as Marxist, woke, anti-semitic, anti-British, or just plain Not Sensible And Serious Enough To Be Worth Even Contemplating (™The Guardian). Meanwhile the people at the very top further consolidate their control and riches at the expense of everyone else. And it feels as if there's nothing that can be done to change that, because any movement that might genuinely attempt to do so will either be co-opted or crushed. This. loving. Country.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:32
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Rustybear posted:just think, we're mere days and weeks away from hearing about politics-as-a-service
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That's why the Labour Party must be destroyed (or at the very least allowed to fail as hard as possible) in order to build something new. It's not possible while Labour continues to squat on the """""Left""""" of British politics because anything new is, as you said, immediately denounced as fringe Marxist nonsense. Labour needs to implode to the point where the unions leave and the good MPs hopefully go with them. tl;dr: accelerationism is good now
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Aug 17, 2021 16:38
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Politics As Service Of Kapital. 
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sebzilla posted:tl;dr: accelerationism is good now Like a libellous musk-rat, the party goes How many members? Nobody knows. An accelerationist way to win: 0-60, right into a bin
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Aug 17, 2021 16:49
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Pablo Bluth posted:If anyone is bored of hearing about What3Words, someone has launched a better alternative for the UK:. FourKingMaps... Returns no results for feck.arse.girls.feck 
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Biggus Dickus posted:Returns no results for feck.arse.girls.feck feck.arse.feck.arse is somewhere off the southern coast of Ireland, so I guess that's where Craggy Island is
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Lamont posted:This thread has reminded me that I have a bunch of walking simulators I need to play:
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Payndz posted:Ugh. The more I think about it, the more depressed I get about what's happened to Labour under Starmer: the party's been completely captured by the Establishment, so even if Labour win an election, nothing will meaningfully change. There might be lip service given to "let's be slightly less cruel and malevolent towards certain approved minority groups", but the party is now beholden to the same powerful people, the same institutions, the same money as the Tories (and the Lib Dems). The political consensus has become ever-narrower, and anything outside it will be screamed down as Marxist, woke, anti-semitic, anti-British, or just plain Not Sensible And Serious Enough To Be Worth Even Contemplating (™The Guardian). Meanwhile the people at the very top further consolidate their control and riches at the expense of everyone else. And it feels as if there's nothing that can be done to change that, because any movement that might genuinely attempt to do so will either be co-opted or crushed. This. loving. Country. There's a Hunter S. Thompson quote that's too long to post where he talks about being able to see the high water mark of the hippie movement, it sort of sums up how I feel.
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JoylessJester posted:There's a Hunter S. Thompson quote that's too long to post where he talks about being able to see the high water mark of the hippie movement, it sort of sums up how I feel. The Wave Speech https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_and_Loathing_in_Las_Vegas#The_%22wave_speech%22 I was a kid in the 60s and I remember being about 6 yrs old walking home from church across a field (echoes of a Pink Floyd tune here!) straggling behind two really grown up girls (aged about 11 LOL) and they had a transistor radio on and it was playing a song about San Francisco and I had no idea what a San Francisco was. (Had no idea it was a place). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Payndz posted:even if Labour win an election, Yeah, I wouldn't worry overmuch about that happening.
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I did one of those meme things https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1427677746428366860
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Outer wilds is an incredibly cool game but i'd clasify it more as a mystery/puzzle game with light survival mechanics than a 'walking sim'. You don't ever see the front of your spaceship shear off in front of your eyes after coliding with an asteroid when playing something like Everybody's gone to the Rapture for example Deffo play it just be aware that the game will ask more if you than just walking around and looking at or reading things and it may not appeal if the no stress gameplay is what you like most about walking sims.
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Mr Phillby posted:Outer wilds is an incredibly cool game but i'd clasify it more as a mystery/puzzle game with light survival mechanics than a 'walking sim'. You don't ever see the front of your spaceship shear off in front of your eyes after coliding with an asteroid when playing something like Everybody's gone to the Rapture for example No worries, I also love puzzle games, adventure games and the like - basically anything with story, from Monkey Island to Uncharted. Thanks everyone for the recommendations!
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Payndz posted:Ugh. The more I think about it, the more depressed I get about what's happened to Labour under Starmer: the party's been completely captured by the Establishment, so even if Labour win an election, nothing will meaningfully change. There might be lip service given to "let's be slightly less cruel and malevolent towards certain approved minority groups", but the party is now beholden to the same powerful people, the same institutions, the same money as the Tories (and the Lib Dems). The political consensus has become ever-narrower, and anything outside it will be screamed down as Marxist, woke, anti-semitic, anti-British, or just plain Not Sensible And Serious Enough To Be Worth Even Contemplating (™The Guardian). Meanwhile the people at the very top further consolidate their control and riches at the expense of everyone else. And it feels as if there's nothing that can be done to change that, because any movement that might genuinely attempt to do so will either be co-opted or crushed. This. loving. Country. People are saying this more and more
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Payndz posted:Ugh. The more I think about it, the more depressed I get about what's happened to Labour under Starmer: the party's been completely captured by the Establishment, so even if Labour win an election, nothing will meaningfully change. There might be lip service given to "let's be slightly less cruel and malevolent towards certain approved minority groups", but the party is now beholden to the same powerful people, the same institutions, the same money as the Tories (and the Lib Dems). The political consensus has become ever-narrower, and anything outside it will be screamed down as Marxist, woke, anti-semitic, anti-British, or just plain Not Sensible And Serious Enough To Be Worth Even Contemplating (™The Guardian). Meanwhile the people at the very top further consolidate their control and riches at the expense of everyone else. And it feels as if there's nothing that can be done to change that, because any movement that might genuinely attempt to do so will either be co-opted or crushed. This. loving. Country. I really don't like this sort of sentiment. It isn't a toss up between 'centrist?' Starmer and REAL POSITIVE CHANGE. It's between a Starmer Labour and Boris Johnson's tories. Even if your hyperbole was correct and nothing at all changes under a Starmer government, it would be better than the cliff to hell a continued Tory administration will throw us off (there can be more cliffs while you are already falling off a cliff right?).
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I feel like now of all times is a very good demonstration of the problem of that reasoning because voting for the centrists because they aren't the tories just means you get worse tories next time and also all the centrist's poo poo comes back to haunt you too, and will actively obstruct any effort to do anything else. Like, in a very real sense it isn't a choice between starmer and the tories, it's a choice between tories now and tories later, and also the ones who claim not to be the tories now are suggesting a lot of tory poo poo and will also fight with the tories to squash anything else. The choice does not exist in a vacuum. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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