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Any good resources on all the parties' housing policies.
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Aug 18, 2021 01:49
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Kraftwerk posted:The Nova Scotia election upset is making me really nervous about the Federal now. Fwiw, my understanding is that in the case of NS it’s a fairly red Tory vs a centrist Lib. Houston campaigned on increasing healthcare spending. Starks fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Aug 18, 2021 01:50
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Arcsquad12 posted:Nova Scotia election results coming in and it's unsurprisingly swinging back and forth between Grits and Cons. Not gonna stand up for the NS Cons but they're pretty milquetoast even by Canadian political standards. An NDP win would similarly mean not a whole lot; picture the Alberta NDP with a smaller budget. This federal election feels positively monumental compared to the sack of indifference that was the NS election.
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Aug 18, 2021 01:57
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CBC reporting that Iain Rankin has called Tim Houston to concede.
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Aug 18, 2021 02:32
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I’m reading that the NS Libs campaigned on massive budget cuts, which the Tories countered by promising large-scale spending on health care. How did they manage to get outflanked to the left by the Conservatives? Are they nuts?
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Aug 18, 2021 03:48
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St. Dogbert posted:I’m reading that the NS Libs campaigned on massive budget cuts, which the Tories countered by promising large-scale spending on health care. How did they manage to get outflanked to the left by the Conservatives? Are they nuts? they did. The Cons were promising big spending to fix the doctor shortage and elder care, while the liberals were talking about how "more money won't fix the problem", despite NS being one of the oldest provinces. They went into the election with the LIbs looking to take a majority, but it tanked post debates. Once again, the Libs burn out with their own hubris on unfulfilled promises.
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Aug 18, 2021 04:22
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I can’t emphasize enough how arbitrary the Con/Lib/NDP names are here in Nova Scotia. And I don’t mean that in the “liberal tory same old story  ” way, I mean literally each of the three outflanks the other in either direction every couple decades. It’s a weird place.
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Aug 18, 2021 04:31
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StealthArcher posted:Flames 1 - Canucks 0 This should have been the new thread title 
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Aug 18, 2021 04:33
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pokeyman posted:I can’t emphasize enough how arbitrary the Con/Lib/NDP names are here in Nova Scotia. And I don’t mean that in the “liberal tory same old story That’s because they all promise to help the economy except in Nova Scotia that’a just a town called “Economy”
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Aug 18, 2021 04:42
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I've heard that Atlantic Canada is the last place in the country that has honest to god Red Tories. Apparently the Ontario PC's used to be the same way in the 70s and 80's.
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Aug 18, 2021 04:55
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lets just hope they actually do put more money in the hospitals cause we've seen what these fuckers can do in alberta, manitoba and ontario when they start cutting
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Aug 18, 2021 05:02
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Beelzebufo posted:they did. The Cons were promising big spending to fix the doctor shortage and elder care, while the liberals were talking about how "more money won't fix the problem", despite NS being one of the oldest provinces. They went into the election with the LIbs looking to take a majority, but it tanked post debates. Looking at the map, it looks like there was a pretty stark urban/rural divide. I’m guessing the rural areas are feeling the brunt of the doctor shortage?
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Aug 18, 2021 05:03
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ToxicAcne posted:I've heard that Atlantic Canada is the last place in the country that has honest to god Red Tories. Apparently the Ontario PC's used to be the same way in the 70s and 80's. Yeah, Bill Davis just died and there were a bunch of memorial pieces talking about how his approaches to governing were basically completely forgotten by the Mike Harris-onwards Tories.
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Aug 18, 2021 05:07
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Starks posted:Looking at the map, it looks like there was a pretty stark urban/rural divide. I’m guessing the rural areas are feeling the brunt of the doctor shortage? Yes. IIRC it's something like 60,000 people in NS that don't have a family doctor right now.
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Aug 18, 2021 06:26
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Noblesse Obliged posted:That’s because they all promise to help the economy except in Nova Scotia that’a just a town called “Economy” And that town is owned by the Irvings.
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Aug 18, 2021 07:14
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ToxicAcne posted:I've heard that Atlantic Canada is the last place in the country that has honest to god Red Tories. Apparently the Ontario PC's used to be the same way in the 70s and 80's. Yep, here in PEI the PCs - who are 1 seat short of a majority - are definitely Red Tories and are much closer aligned to the federal Liberals than the federal Conservatives, or their western provincial counterparts for that matter.
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Aug 18, 2021 12:22
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Laughing at how quickly we went from "no way will people vote con after all this bungling" to "okay but these cons aren't that bad"
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Aug 18, 2021 13:17
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Wasn't that who McKay was trying to get on board for his leadership campaign? I will say the CPC would be doing much better if he was leader
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Aug 18, 2021 13:17
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Bleck posted:Laughing at how quickly we went from "no way will people vote con after all this bungling" to "okay but these cons aren't that bad" ACAB of course, but my point is that PCs winning in NS isn't some sign that suddenly they're aligned with Kenney and Ford.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:19
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Yeah I thought Conservatives in NS was a weird result but I don't know poo poo about maritime politics so yeah. Good luck to them in any case, things are not great in atlantic canada health care and economics wise.
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Aug 18, 2021 14:06
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Tax-and-spend.... tories? Am I still asleep?
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Aug 18, 2021 14:20
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The Maritimes never really left the 1980s
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Aug 18, 2021 14:24
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https://twitter.com/LJDYGK/status/1427741340641767429 This is so stupid. You know they're gonna come out and blame some marketing company and pretend they never saw these before they were mailed out.
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Aug 18, 2021 14:32
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The Liberals were being hammered hard by both the NDP and Conservatives in NS for not supporting the medical system. I don't know how they could possibly think it was a good idea to be weak on healthcare while we are still trapped between waves of the pandemic. I can only assume they needed a vacation and were trying their hardest to lose the election. It's a shame because all things considered the pandemic was being handled pretty well, and now I hope we don't start going the way of Toronto or Alberta with regards to pandemic response. I am also now mentally preparing myself for the upcoming federal Conservative majority. If anyone can do it, the Liberals can. They've already started fumbling it with their extremely transparent excuses for why they think an election is needed.
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Aug 18, 2021 15:13
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Nice Van My Man posted:The Liberals were being hammered hard by both the NDP and Conservatives in NS for not supporting the medical system. I don't know how they could possibly think it was a good idea to be weak on healthcare while we are still trapped between waves of the pandemic. I can only assume they needed a vacation and were trying their hardest to lose the election. It's almost like the Libs realized that letting the NDP hold the balance of power means we're going to get too much progressive legislation so lets roll the dice and get either a Liberal Majority or let the Tories form government, either way, capital wins the political long game which is what this is all really about.
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Aug 18, 2021 15:18
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Well with NS it's also that they have been in power since 2013 and never fulfilled any of their promises on healthcare. Rankin was basically trying to find some spin for not spending money to fix the problem for 8 years.
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Aug 18, 2021 15:51
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/LJDYGK/status/1427741340641767429 So what are the chances the Tories just say "gently caress it" and send everyone who doesn't "pay" their fake invoices to collections because "gently caress you, give me money"?
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Aug 18, 2021 15:58
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Mr clean continues to not mandate vaccines for his candidates and says they should get daily covid tests instead. So stupid and cruel, I see. Not that I'm going to get upset about antivaxxers getting getting brains scraped by a swap daily, mind you.
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Aug 18, 2021 16:18
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Love to be reactive instead of proactive in the face of a pandemic what could go wrong
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Aug 18, 2021 16:25
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Starks posted:Looking at the map, it looks like there was a pretty stark urban/rural divide. I’m guessing the rural areas are feeling the brunt of the doctor shortage? The province is feeling it. Two news stories that really hurt the Liberals in this election were one guy laying in his driveway with a broken hip for 3 loving hours waiting on an ambulance. The other was a man dying after waiting two hours in triage. I'm not in an especially rural area, but last week a friend sat in emerg for 8 hours in a pool of his own blood waiting to see someone. He told the guy at the desk and they just shrugged and asked if he wanted a paper towel or something. I think at this point a lot of people didn't have much faith in the libs to fix poo poo, and the cons were able to capitalize on it in a big way.
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Aug 18, 2021 16:45
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Thermos posted:The province is feeling it. Two news stories that really hurt the Liberals in this election were one guy laying in his driveway with a broken hip for 3 loving hours waiting on an ambulance. The other was a man dying after waiting two hours in triage. In light of this context I'm not AS worried about the NS election impacting the federal. It's a strange world we live in where PC's are actually promising to improve healthcare funding and hire more doctors though! Usually (in Ontario) a PC govt means healthcare CUTS, firing nurses and closing hospitals. Having said that I still think Erin O'Toole is going to come up from out of nowhere and win a majority because of NDP/Liberal vote splitting.
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Aug 18, 2021 17:34
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Less Fat Luke posted:https://twitter.com/LJDYGK/status/1427741340641767429 So, could they get sued for this poo poo, or will it just be optically terrible for them?
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Aug 18, 2021 17:37
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RuBisCO posted:Love to be reactive instead of proactive in the face of a pandemic what could go wrong Since the start of the pandemic I've always said the policy of our governments has been seemingly based around a ideology that it's incredibly irresponsible to close the barn door until an independent body has totally verified that yes, all the horses have run away. Closing barn doors before all the horses are totally confirmed as gone is jumping the gun and putting potentially unnecessary wear and tear on our provinces barn doors.
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Aug 18, 2021 17:46
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Can't wait for Maga Max to declare masks and covid as partisan issues so Elections Canada can forbid us from talking about them
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Aug 18, 2021 19:15
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bunnyofdoom posted:Wasn't that who McKay was trying to get on board for his leadership campaign? I genuinely believe they'd be in safe minority territory under him - I know lots of people who have only voted Liberal or NDP that would be keen on a red Tory (largely due to Trudeau fatigue).
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Aug 18, 2021 19:31
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https://twitter.com/ianfroese/status/1428072502543228937?s=20 She's running
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Aug 18, 2021 20:16
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She's dumb as gently caress and basically rose up doing nothing. Maybe if she becomes leader she can be exposed for being an absolute loving fraud.
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Aug 18, 2021 20:47
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Vintersorg posted:She's dumb as gently caress and basically rose up doing nothing. My favourite part is Stefanson saying that she will immediately scrap the wildly unpopular Bill 64 (The PC Education Modernization Act) and then Cliff Cullen (current Minister of Education and primary voice of Bill 64) threw his support behind her. That certainly sends a message.
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Aug 18, 2021 21:10
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https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1428075838721839106?s=20 Can't wait to give KPMG another 100 million dollars for a report that says healthcare is busted and we need to close another ER or 2 to fix it.
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Aug 18, 2021 21:17
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InfiniteZero posted:My favourite part is Stefanson saying that she will immediately scrap the wildly unpopular Bill 64 (The PC Education Modernization Act) and then Cliff Cullen (current Minister of Education and primary voice of Bill 64) threw his support behind her. That certainly sends a message. Cliff Cullen is dumb as a board, he's only in cabinet so they can say they have Westman represented and he will literally just repeat whatever someone tells him to say.
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Aug 18, 2021 21:20
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