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multistability posted:Lmao this is literally straight out of Edward Lansdale's counterinsurgency playbook (the following is all paraphrased from Radio War Nerd ep 39 — Cold War Counterinsurgencies): Haha wow stupid superstitious natives, being scared of psychotic freaks who will torture you to death 🤣
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Jetto Jagga posted:Haha wow stupid superstitious natives, being scared of psychotic freaks who will torture you to death 🤣 Yeah the story does come across a bit like that in its tone I guess, but again I'm basically repeating a story Mark Ames told on RWN. Don't know if there are any other sources corroborating it, but the resemblance to the Canadian thing was kind of funny
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 19:34 |
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Iirc that was also where they faked vampire attacks by draining corpses of blood
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 19:36 |
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StashAugustine posted:I like ghost's theory that the CIA just released tropical birds into the area for laughs weird birds and aerosolized lsd
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 19:41 |
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc that was also where they faked vampire attacks by draining corpses of blood William Blum, Killing Hope posted:"Another Lansdale-initiated "psywar" operation played on the superstitious dread in the Philippine countryside of the asuang, a mythical vampire. A psywar squad entered a town and planted rumors that an asuang lived in the neighboring hill where the Huks were based, a location from which government forces were anxious to have them out. Two nights later, after giving the rumors time to circulate among Huk sympathizers in the town and make their way up the hill, the psywar squad laid an ambush for the rebels along a trail used by them. When a Huk patrol passed, the ambushers silently snatched the last man, punctured his neck vampire-fashion with two holes, held his body by the heels until the blood drained out, and put the corpse back on the trail. When the Huks, as superstitious as any other Filipinos, discovered the bloodless comrade, they fled from the region."
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they also left playing cards on mutilated corpses so the indigenous would think the joker did it
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 19:42 |
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i'm going to become the mothman
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Incidentally, this reminds me some of the poo poo the Brits were running out of the Information Research Department's psy-ops unit 'Information Policy' in Northern Ireland during the Troubles:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/features/the-war-against-the-ira-and-the-birth-of-fake-news-36947153.html posted:Propaganda also accused terrorists of dabbling in witchcraft and black magic, with the British even going as far as planting black altars and placing upside-down crucifixes in parts of Belfast. Colin Wallace, an Army intelligence officer, claimed: "We used to collect chicken blood from the cookhouse at the Army barracks and put that on the altars, so it looked like there had been a sacrifice, or something". Google Colin Wallace, he is one spooky motherfucker
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Laterite posted:i'm going to become the mothman i became flatwoods once. a+ would recommend https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40892336 A self-described shaman says a strange creature reportedly spotted in the hills of North Carolina last week was actually him dressed in animal skins. The "Bigfoot" sighting happened last Friday in the Appalachian mountains, but the story took an even weirder twist with a mistaken identity claim.
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multistability posted:Incidentally, this reminds me some of the poo poo the Brits were running out of the Information Research Department's psy-ops unit 'Information Policy' in Northern Ireland during the Troubles: Lmao the British actually doing Satanic rituals (to own the Irish)
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Shima Honnou posted:weird birds and aerosolized lsd but enough about Pont-Saint-Esprit
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Ross DaouThot posted:ok so show of hands who here has read programmed to kill by David McGowan Make sure you read his other book — Understanding the F-Word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion It owns
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc that was also where they faked vampire attacks by draining corpses of blood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9H_1ygEv8 And the vietnam ghost tapes! http://psywarrior.com/wanderingsoul quote:A male voice was recorded through an echo chamber that represented the soul of the dead soldier. In some cases, the recording was actually too persuasive for its own good. The tape was so effective that we were instructed not to play it within earshot of the South Vietnamese forces, because they were as susceptible as the Viet Cong or North Vietnamese Army.
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 20:38 |
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i've read elsewhere that none of this poo poo actually worked and that all the locals knew it was the american troops known to be in the area mutilating the corpses and not vampires
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Yeah the Vietnam ghost tapes got brought up in the mothman episode. Perfect intersection of stupid and horrifying
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Shear Modulus posted:i've read elsewhere that none of this poo poo actually worked and that all the locals knew it was the american troops known to be in the area mutilating the corpses and not vampires Yeah now that I actually think about it psy-ops such as Lansdale's and Wallace's are reflective of a certain bigoted colonial or imperialistic attitude towards the people who are being subjected to them, and I have no doubt that if you see a corpse hanging upside down completely drained of blood you would be so terrified you would just get the gently caress out of there regardless. Like the point of counterinsurgency isn't so much the means rather than the end, which is to terrify the insurgency and the population which supports that insurgency into submission
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multistability posted:Yeah now that I actually think about it psy-ops such as Lansdale's and Wallace's are reflective of a certain bigoted colonial or imperialistic attitude towards the people who are being subjected to them, and I have no doubt that if you see a corpse hanging upside down completely drained of blood you would be so terrified you would just get the gently caress out of there regardless. Like the point of counterinsurgency isn't so much the means rather than the end, which is to terrify the insurgency and the population which supports that insurgency into submission American troops: *kills people who go into the woods at night and hangs their mutilated corpses up in trees in ways that clearly parallel folktales about monsters that kill people who go into the woods at night* Locals: Okay nobody go into the woods at night, it's dangerous. Americans: LOL ignorant savages.
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Azathoth posted:Yeah, I think there was an overarching goal to make the community believe the craziest possible poo poo as a marginalization tactic, but I would agree that most of it was throwing a ton of poo poo out there and seeing what stuck. I do think that there were some researchers who absolutely took government money under the table, and I do legit believe that Barker was a target, but I shouldn't have said for sure that he was a part of it, even if I do believe that he was. man it’s be crazy if like all this poo poo kicked off as a way to discredit civil rights and leftist groups. like if the first and most famous case of it was exactly that.
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Danger posted:man it’s be crazy if like all this poo poo kicked off as a way to discredit civil rights and leftist groups. like if the first and most famous case of it was exactly that. The part of the Hill case that's always been fascinating to me is that no matter how sad and farfetched Betty's later claims got, I've always believed that something really crazy actually happened to them on their drive back home. The whole timeline of their trip is so weird and spur of the moment that it raises questions about how something like that could be executed, but at this point, we'll never know the truth so it's at least fun to think about.
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 22:07 |
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StashAugustine posted:I like ghost's theory that the CIA just released tropical birds into the area for laughs was it bats or bird or both, either way lol I totally believe it
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Fried Watermelon posted:If it didn't work in Afghanistan then what are the chances it will work at home lol They think I'm slow because I'm from Caaaanada ehh??
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 23:02 |
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GOd I hate the RCMP.
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# ? Aug 18, 2021 23:21 |
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🎶 and so the Kitty Deep State, took out Kitty Trevor Moore, make no mistake 🎵
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https://twitter.com/kept_simple/status/1428046405986394117?s=21
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porque no los dos
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 00:00 |
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What's the deal with that movie Jon Stewart made is Gael Garcia Bernal hot in it or what
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Shear Modulus posted:i've read elsewhere that none of this poo poo actually worked and that all the locals knew it was the american troops known to be in the area mutilating the corpses and not vampires Yeah I posted glibly but the levels of weird colonialist/fascist thinking in that anecdote are off the charts. you wanted the guerrillas to think they were being hunted by a monster, so in order to "trick" their puny superstitious minds you did a campaign of psychotic murder and corpse desecration. Also makes me think of the constant refrain that "those people" don't value human life like we do, so we must lower ourselves to their bestial state, despite the potential damage to our otherwise unimpeachable morals. Hitler and his cronies use to sit around and get themselves hyped up saying poo poo like that, oh yeah man it's awful what we have to do, really terrible, but we have no choice! "Hard men making hard decisions" self serving bullshit.
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multistability posted:Yeah now that I actually think about it psy-ops such as Lansdale's and Wallace's are reflective of a certain bigoted colonial or imperialistic attitude towards the people who are being subjected to them, and I have no doubt that if you see a corpse hanging upside down completely drained of blood you would be so terrified you would just get the gently caress out of there regardless. Like the point of counterinsurgency isn't so much the means rather than the end, which is to terrify the insurgency and the population which supports that insurgency into submission I see this has been covered, sorry
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Shear Modulus posted:i've read elsewhere that none of this poo poo actually worked and that all the locals knew it was the american troops known to be in the area mutilating the corpses and not vampires Yeah, if I had signs that a group of People were going to come gently caress my village up, I would sure leave as fast as I could to prevent that. Speaking of Afghanistan, my dad was in Viet Nam, and recently put together all his letters, diary, and pictures from Viet Nam. He was a Navy medic with the marines in the delta in 67-69. He talks about having to treat the infected tattoos of the South Vietnamese troops that were got drunk and had in English "gently caress the VC" tattooed on one of their arms. He said that they were the hardest fighters, because they would be killed if captured. Its always fun to unpack when you find out our Dad somewhat participated in War Crimes..
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 03:13 |
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this doesn’t make an actor not an asset though. they’re just easily won over by CIA dudes.
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https://twitter.com/Xaniken/status/1415908463344066560?s=19
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 03:26 |
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the golden snitch if it were a grenade
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 03:51 |
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everybody just calmly walking towards Terminator like their asses believe in Roko's Basilisk
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https://twitter.com/alexandereylar/status/1428113363058397187?s=21
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wtf is tga.win
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 14:54 |
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yo can i get some kinda active element document of this masterwork instead of giant_fucking_image.png
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# ? Aug 19, 2021 15:00 |
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Bold choice putting limbaugh under the internet section
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https://twitter.com/Hamdemic/status/1426559823500308487 Okay this is getting silly now.
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Now this is a transparent administration if I've ever seen one. Ha ha ha.
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