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You can use it as a soft cap to create more cities from the territory you already have or to conquer more cities from the AI.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah, I did see the city merge but like you say, I don't see what the point of that is. It's useful if you're conquering or assimilating minor civs, as taking cities night put you over the limit.
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Aug 19, 2021 18:31
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So.. I thought wonders were garbage and they took forever to build. Then I realized multiple cities can be assigned to build a wonder, so it won't take too long after all. Then I realized they give some SWEET BONUSES...
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Aug 19, 2021 18:32
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a pipe smoking dog posted:It's useful if you're conquering or assimilating minor civs, as taking cities night put you over the limit. Ah that makes sense. I haven't gone conquering yet so haven't had to deal with being over the city limit.
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Aug 19, 2021 18:38
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i went over the limit by one and momentarily panicked until i realized it reduced my influence by 10 a turn and i was making around 1000 a turn
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Aug 19, 2021 18:42
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Check your city policies every so often. Sometimes your population refuses to auto assign to specialist positions and will sit idle while your town starves.
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Aug 19, 2021 18:44
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Speaking from Victor/Closed Beta experience:Ihmemies posted:So.. I thought wonders were garbage and they took forever to build. Then I realized multiple cities can be assigned to build a wonder, so it won't take too long after all. Then I realized they give some SWEET BONUSES... Yeah, the Holy Site wonders are pretty decent, and I was getting some pretty insane yields from the Statue of Liberty in the one game I played through the Industrial era. On some maps the Library of Alexandria can mean you can reach the new world before caravels, giving you a big head start on colonization. Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:i went over the limit by one and momentarily panicked until i realized it reduced my influence by 10 a turn and i was making around 1000 a turn My experience was that going one over isn't bad by midgame, and late you can afford to go a few over.
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Aug 19, 2021 18:46
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I'm enjoying it so far. It has its faults, and some rather glaring gaps that I presume are going to be taken up by DLC (religion, diplomacy, spies etc), but it's been a far more enjoyable experience than Civilization VI, and the AI is holding its own very well, even on the normal difficulty. So far there's not been any schizophrenic AI loving and hating me in equal turns, and the addition of point of interest pings by the AI is a neat feature. There's also some nice ideas and features to it that refresh the 4X experience. I'm also loving the graphics and UI. I'm currently playing the Babylons and I have a city sitting on a river that leads to a waterfall down to a lake, whilst behind it is a giant mountain and snowy region with a pass that breaks to the other side of the land. It's very scenic.
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Aug 19, 2021 18:50
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does anyone know how the engagement zone is calculated? i keep my armies together (as in adjacent to one another) but sometimes when i attack, or when i'm attacked, the valid tiles are all weird and checkerboarded and it cuts out all my stacks but the one that's attacking/being attacked. this is stupid as poo poo.
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Aug 19, 2021 19:00
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Playing on Nation got greedy and built a bunch of pyramids and made two three-territory cities I was making GBS threads out districts so fast my capital was near rebellion and then the Huns came and conquered one of my cities in one turn whoops! Should probably respect my opponents. Also this super annoyed me: "I can't wait to climb the many mountains here and map the stars!" "No. Just this mountain." "But the other three...?" "NO."  Did I do something wrong? If not then adjacency only applying to a specific territory is not intuitive. I went Zhou just for this!
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Aug 19, 2021 19:14
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Tom Tucker posted:Playing on Nation got greedy and built a bunch of pyramids and made two three-territory cities I was making GBS threads out districts so fast my capital was near rebellion and then the Huns came and conquered one of my cities in one turn whoops! Should probably respect my opponents. I believe that territory that holds the other mountains needs to be connected to the territory with the school in order for it to benefit from those adjacency bonuses.
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Aug 19, 2021 19:36
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Yeah. If you attach that territory to the same one with the school it’ll start adding that in. If it’s in your empire but attached to another city it won’t.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:10
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Finished my first game on Metro, wasn't too hard, snowballed by turn 180 and had no challenge after that. I didn't really get much time to play around in the modern era though, I won the game with fusion researched but not gunpowder lol.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:10
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I've not played much but I've found the eras seem to go by too quickly. I barely had time to build emblematic quarters in my districts before I had enough era stars to advance. I hung about until a couple of the ai had moved era but it still felt too quick.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:12
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Ebola Dog posted:I've not played much but I've found the eras seem to go by too quickly. I barely had time to build emblematic quarters in my districts before I had enough era stars to advance. I hung about until a couple of the ai had moved era but it still felt too quick. Maybe I'm just stuck in Civ days but I stayed with a single cultural group all the way through and never felt hampered. Maybe it gets more necessary to minmax the special quarters but my Babylonian special gave both science and food so I just plopped one everywhere and collected the +10% to score each Era without questioning it. I don't think you would have any issues if you held on to a culture for an extra Era to get the special stuff built up
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Aug 19, 2021 20:25
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Question, how do you use forts? Like where to place them to that they can defend an outpost or something. I'd guess it has to be within X tiles of the outpost to ensure it'll be on the battlefield if you have to defend vs ransacking?
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Aug 19, 2021 20:31
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CuddleCryptid posted:Maybe I'm just stuck in Civ days but I stayed with a single cultural group all the way through and never felt hampered. Maybe it gets more necessary to minmax the special quarters but my Babylonian special gave both science and food so I just plopped one everywhere and collected the +10% to score each Era without questioning it. I don't think you would have any issues if you held on to a culture for an extra Era to get the special stuff built up You’re giving up on the unique building/unit of the later age. The later the age, the better the bonuses. The only reason to keep your current culture is if you really NEED to keep your current affinity for the bonus, but the ones from the next age have been snagged. Or don’t exist at all—there are notably zero Militarist cultures in the Contemporary era.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:42
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Magil Zeal posted:Speaking from Victor/Closed Beta experience: Stacking wonders with Angkor wat seems to work. It produces 1 food for 1 faith. So I built Notre Dame and got 48 extra faith.. and 48 extra food. Hot drat. What happens when the city goes over the population limit? My capitol is at 35/33 population now. Maybe I should build some armies in there... quote:My experience was that going one over isn't bad by midgame, and late you can afford to go a few over. Depends on how much influence you produce, yes. The influence hit doesn't seem to scale over time. Edit. WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH THESE WONDERS  Does that give 50% fuckin food for EVERY CITY I OWN if I build it into my capital which produces absurd amounts of food already?!?!?! Does it give 50% from output? My output after consumption is 140 so it would be 70 food for EVERY CITY Or does it give 50% goddamn food from my production which is 420 -> 210 food to every city?!??!?!?!?!!! Or is the 50% food (70 or 210) divided between all the other cities I own. So if I have 5 other cities every city gets 14 or 42 food? Ihmemies fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 20:46
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Vengarr posted:You’re giving up on the unique building/unit of the later age. The later the age, the better the bonuses. There's a new cultural building/unit for each era? I had no idea, I guess I should be swapping after all.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:49
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Also what is wrong with libraries? For some piddly production I get a building which produces 1 science for every guy in the city? A research quarter would produce like 5 science each. Scientist produces 6 each. But a library produces 30 science if I have 30 guys in the city?!
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Aug 19, 2021 20:53
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There is a bug right now where if you need to pick a Tenet for your religion and every one of them in the tiers you have available have already been picked by other Civs, you're hosed and can't end the turn. Until they patch that, maybe don't play with 10 players, lol.
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Aug 19, 2021 20:56
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CuddleCryptid posted:There's a new cultural building/unit for each era? I had no idea, I guess I should be swapping after all. yeah you stack affinity bonis and keep the new unique units, only thing you give up is the unique quarter (but of course you keep getting new ones). and usually the new unique unit is by far the best thing you can build for that era.
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Aug 19, 2021 21:00
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Fur20 posted:does anyone know how the engagement zone is calculated? i keep my armies together (as in adjacent to one another) but sometimes when i attack, or when i'm attacked, the valid tiles are all weird and checkerboarded and it cuts out all my stacks but the one that's attacking/being attacked. this is stupid as poo poo. that's with the tech for reinforcements researched?
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Aug 19, 2021 21:12
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victrix posted:that's with the tech for reinforcements researched? yeah, so what's happening is the flag-colored tiles that show which global-level units are allowed to participate sometimes (i have to stress SOMETIMES this is like once in a dozen battles maybe for me) will have a weird snakey pattern that dodges my other units  a good 90% of the time it's a normal shape, the size 3~5 cone in one general direction. but every once in a while it's a very unpredictable shape that doesn't make much sense. and this is on flat terrain not like a hilly area or mountain pass.e: now that i'm thinking about it, thats probably because i attack cities 10% of the time and they might exert some kind of zone of control that prevents enemies next to them from spawning, or maybe it's their walls i really like the effect elevation has on city placement and battle strategy lol honestly i like the micro-level combat control much better here than i did in endless legend. that stank but this is sensible and responsive. and it doesn't have unit equipment micro! i feel like i'm doing all right, i've won a few major wars against weaker enemies but my biggest trade partner just evolved into the Huns. good thing i took Persians and have Immortals  i don't know about $60 but if you can get it on gmg or wherever for 40, 45 i'd say that's a good price for this game. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Aug 19, 2021 21:33
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This is going to sound stupid but am I just missing a button to turn on a minimap in the corner of the screen or something? really enjoying the game but it would be nice to have a better sense of where I am whenever it's time to go to give orders to a new unit without having to zoom out and back in.
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Aug 19, 2021 21:34
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Ihmemies posted:Stacking wonders with Angkor wat seems to work. It produces 1 food for 1 faith. So I built Notre Dame and got 48 extra faith.. and 48 extra food. Hot drat. What happens when the city goes over the population limit? My capitol is at 35/33 population now. Maybe I should build some armies in there... I'd guess it would be 210 food to all your other cities, yea. It's bonkers and I love it.
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Aug 19, 2021 21:36
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:This is going to sound stupid but am I just missing a button to turn on a minimap in the corner of the screen or something? really enjoying the game but it would be nice to have a better sense of where I am whenever it's time to go to give orders to a new unit without having to zoom out and back in. I don't think any of the Amplitude games had minimaps, so there probably isn't one.
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Aug 19, 2021 21:37
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The Human Crouton posted:I don't think any of the Amplitude games had minimaps, so there probably isn't one. I thought it might be something you unlock via the research tree. Kind of insane if there isn't one it's rather painful to move around even with the scroll speed cranked up.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I'd guess it would be 210 food to all your other cities, yea. It's bonkers and I love it.  that's sick. Completely absurd. I agree. Especially when it's not some one time number, but it scales with the production... Do wonders get obsolete in the game? Or do you get the benefits for the whole duration?I paid 35€ for the game, game seems good. I don't like cities and districts in civ6 but here I can make only a couple of manageable sized cities and armies stack on each other (thank god) etc. So much less micro than in civ6..
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Aug 19, 2021 21:42
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Grand Fromage posted:Is influence a mechanic that's supposed to be key early then irrelevant later? Once territory's mostly been claimed there doesn't seem to be anything to do with it. Only time I see it used is to claim wonders, but I have like 10k banked at that point so who gives a poo poo. Influence costs ramp up significantly for adopting civics, and influence is also what determines cultural projection which is important for building grievances for war / avoiding your opponents doing the same
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Aug 19, 2021 22:04
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I'd guess it would be 210 food to all your other cities, yea. It's bonkers and I love it. Depsite what it says on the description, it's not that good in practice. It divides 50% of the city's surplus across all your other cities - a city that produces 300 food, eats 200 food and has 5 other cities gives those cities 20. Has anyone found out what a "calm" city is? I've been assuming they mean "settled" (90+ stability) but nowhere does it seem to state it.
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influence basically feels like its irrelevant late-midgame until you start expanding again. Then you feel real pain if you've been ignoring it.
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Aug 19, 2021 23:03
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It's getting the stars that feels hard. Like, the amount of influence I need to expand everywhere is an order of magnitude less than the amount I need for even the first era star, let alone the third. I don't see how I can finish my game without vassalizing or killing every AI player.
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Aug 19, 2021 23:31
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MorphineMike posted:Depsite what it says on the description, it's not that good in practice. It divides 50% of the city's surplus across all your other cities - a city that produces 300 food, eats 200 food and has 5 other cities gives those cities 20. That’s correct according to the wiki.
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Aug 19, 2021 23:38
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Veryslightlymad posted:It's getting the stars that feels hard. Like, the amount of influence I need to expand everywhere is an order of magnitude less than the amount I need for even the first era star, let alone the third. build your emblematic quarters and try to pick up an expansionist civ early on. persia did not lead me astray, but it doesn't have to be them; you can always take a civ with a unique quarter that either actively or passively . you could go faith, too: if you can get and spread an early religion, there's a powerful civic you can take to give you a lot of influence just for having a lot of territory that follows your core religion. there just isn't much in the way of options outside of these methods until you research feudalism for the district that produces influence. it sounds like you can go the way you went too and just kill fuckin everybody and you don't NEED to spend influence. as long as you can get your snowball going. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Aug 20, 2021 |
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Aug 20, 2021 00:19
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I hope they add more game start options. More world generation of course, but I also always play Civ with the turn limit off and it sucks not having that.
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Aug 20, 2021 02:01
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Lol I tried to install the most recent patch and the game uninstalled itself. Although that might be more due to Gamepass PC's terrible design rather than the game itself.
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Aug 20, 2021 02:03
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CuddleCryptid posted:Although that might be more due to Gamepass PC's terrible design rather than the game itself. 
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Aug 20, 2021 02:48
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I would have loved to try Vulkan to see if it helped performance but you can't use it with the gamepass version.
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Grand Fromage posted:I hope they add more game start options. More world generation of course, but I also always play Civ with the turn limit off and it sucks not having that. You can keep playing past the turn limit - you just can't win anymore.
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