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Rob Rockley posted:Lmfao, I can't get over this fuckin take. "Trump didn't get punished; ergo, he didn't do any crime." loving unbelievable take.  "Oh hey, someone actually interested in discussion! I appreciate you actually answering the question instead of ignoring it or answering with another question. I think I disagree with you on some things, I don't think hiring General Flynn counts as cheating, for example. It's evidence of him being favorable towards Russia sure, but I was using "cheating" more in the sense of "the 2016 election was not a fair election because Trump rigged it somehow," which the mere act of hiring Flynn doesn't qualify as. Stuff like paying people to feign support during the primary is more the kind of thing I was talking about." Flynn comes with his own context, in that he was close to Putin and Russian Intelligence, he was the first Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency EVER to visit the GRU HQ, for example. And he was a complete islamophobic nutjob who did things like go on Breitbart say said that Mexico was putting up Arabic signs to guide ISIS for when they invade America. Since then he's non-stop promoted QAnon and assisted Trump's coup and went to a QAnon Conference and said we should have a real no poo poo military coup to install Trump back in power. So given all that of course he was fuckin' doing something to help Trump cheat back in 2016, even if we don't know exactly what. And this isn't even getting into Erik Prince of Blackwater and Betsy DeVos fame. These are all incredibly hosed up shady individuals, and just like Nixon's Plumbers and his CREEP, they're the kind of people you only hire if you're doing something illegal. "what you did was add your own context to it, context that didn't exist in the original, which suited your narrative about what you believe I said. That is a thing you did. You responded to what you wanted to respond to rather than what I actually wrote and now you're hiding behind "it's your own words" despite the fact that you added the context to those words that I did not and did not intend. You did the same thing to VitalSigns. It suits the wider narrative of what you believe and also comes off as creepy which is why I tried to politely disengage with you, which you apparently did not get." If you're unhappy with the context because you think you didn't add enough in the first place then add to it. But again you're just defending people who aren't even attempting to make a good faith argument, as if I could somehow misinterpret their words to somehow be even worse than they are, and hiding behind "narratives" rather than dealing with facts. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Aug 15, 2021 |
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My read on it is the democrats were cynically using those crimes as a way to generate hate and news about the administration (as if it needed help) to get votes in elections. Obviously republicans hypocritically do the same thing, even about crimes they are currently in the process of committing. But, ultimately, they serve many of the same masters (the wealthy). There is only so much that can be laid at the feet of republicans. In court the dems were roundly defeated by a system that said it didn't want to get involved. At the time, there was absolutely a narrative that judges would have to see the crimes being committed and do something. As for the DoJ, it was not only Barr and the white house lawyers protecting Trump. Even Mueller refused to say there had been a crime committed due to DoJ policy. There was absolutely a narrative that his testimony would have some effect even with Barr's letter. "Totally exonerated." There was a narrative that the FBI investigations would have some effect, despite the fact that the investigations were marred by several public mistakes that Republicans quickly used to muddy the waters. The FBI and Mueller investigation got several people on Trump's team, none of them close to him, 3 of whom were pardoned. Carter Page's conviction is now one of the current reasons Trump and people in his orbit can muddy the waters. The FBI investigation is now under separate investigation which already has one conviction and is looking for more. Once the dems were in control of the presidency and both houses suddenly the investigations into Trump admin crimes stopped for reasons I already posted about. The democrats as a party didn't actually care seeing consequences for the crimes or the collusion, they cared about the narrative and news media wanted a good story so it went with one. This does not mean people in the Trump campaign, transition, inauguration commission and admin committed no crimes. It means there were never going to be any real consequences for the Trump family, even political ones, due to their crimes, in office and without, such that they were related to politics (other than 1/6, which remains to be seen). This is my read on the current broad national feeling about Trump Admin Crimes Total Investigatory Consequences (TACTIC) (tm pending, DO NOT STEAL): people haven't seen real consequences and are, frankly, tired of hearing about it. Even if they are certain crimes were committed, they aren't confident anything is going to be done about them. A lot of people involved in the democratic party or who are invested in the outcomes care a lot. But many who were originally jazzed about anything happening to Trump et al have had their hopes repeatedly dashed and it's far enough out from 1/6 that it's a distant memory. The democrats always play Lucy With The Football: It always inevitably falls to the voters. If they want something done they have to vote. Which they did and... Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Aug 15, 2021 |
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Hey, if Bush was guilty of war crimes, why didn't Democrats convict and prosecute him? Maybe "what did Democrats do about it?!" isn't the greatest standard for whether or not something is real, you'll find out they actually do very little in general.
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this videos great, its very funny to me to be saying "nothing can stop whats coming" in such a smug tone in august 2021. is it the original meaning and trumps about to lock up all the deep state and have hillary executed? is it the new compromise conspiracy and he's just gonna be reinstated as the real president any day now, or is it just a thing people say now that doesnt really mean anything? either way i think this is a good example of how qanon didnt go away after trump it just got subsumed into the morass of what passes for conservative thought these days. surprised she didnt throw in a "we the people" https://twitter.com/JerriJamz/status/1426052914255106049
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:this videos great, its very funny to me to be saying "nothing can stop whats coming" in such a smug tone in august 2021. is it the original meaning and trumps about to lock up all the deep state and have hillary executed? is it the new compromise conspiracy and he's just gonna be reinstated as the real president any day now, or is it just a thing people say now that doesnt really mean anything? either way i think this is a good example of how qanon didnt go away after trump it just got subsumed into the morass of what passes for conservative thought these days. surprised she didnt throw in a "we the people" Wow, what a piece of poo poo. Why isn't there anyone mocking or laughing at her?
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Because they know she's right.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:this videos great, its very funny to me to be saying "nothing can stop whats coming" in such a smug tone in august 2021. is it the original meaning and trumps about to lock up all the deep state and have hillary executed? is it the new compromise conspiracy and he's just gonna be reinstated as the real president any day now, or is it just a thing people say now that doesnt really mean anything? either way i think this is a good example of how qanon didnt go away after trump it just got subsumed into the morass of what passes for conservative thought these days. surprised she didnt throw in a "we the people" Poetry slams are getting weird.
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BlueQ will be after the Democrats get slaughtered in the midterms and the KHive goes hunting for the Deep State to blame Biden's crappy first two years on while at the same time agitating for Biden's Proof of Life so Kamela can finally ascend to her rightful place on the throne.
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She didn't even memorize her two minute speech. Low energy
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Geisladisk posted:As a non-American let me assure you that your conservatives are lunatics and absolutely not the norm. The sanest, polite, most centrist and civil Republican - The least Republican Republican, basically - Would be considered a unsavory fringe figure in the conservative parties around here. As a french-american dual citizen, I'm late here, but, lol, no e: catching up especially lol at the poster citing Chirac v Le Pen 2002 without mentioning how the french electoral system works or any later elections Like as poo poo as the US atm is, people talking like this are always, always either americans whose furthest foreign excursion was Vancouver fantasizing about socialist utopia Norway, or non-americans who have no idea what it's actually like there whose knowledge comes from twitter and syndicated tv shows Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 16, 2021 |
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Okay, so I just watched the Colbert show and apparently some anti vaxxers think their sperm will become super valuable after the vaccine renders everyone else sterile. Now I wonder how much this "vaccine causes sterility" comes from that stupid Amazon TV show Utopia that was about a plot to fake a pandemic then give everyone a fake vaccine that sterilized everyone.
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the show stole the idea from real life tinhats so there's some great feedback looping here.
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Lammasu posted:Okay, so I just watched the Colbert show and apparently some anti vaxxers think their sperm will become super valuable after the vaccine renders everyone else sterile. Now I wonder how much this "vaccine causes sterility" comes from that stupid Amazon TV show Utopia that was about a plot to fake a pandemic then give everyone a fake vaccine that sterilized everyone. The only cure is ULTRA MALE VITALITy from INFOWARS.COM Stop the steal of your manhood.
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dont be a soy boy. also dont read the ingredient list.
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nah it's stolen from "aliens are gonna sterilize us for depopulation purposes" but tbf i don't think the 80s show V originated the concept the (first?) SG-1 episode about the Aschen definitely didn't originate it
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Lammasu posted:Okay, so I just watched the Colbert show and apparently some anti vaxxers think their sperm will become super valuable after the vaccine renders everyone else sterile. Now I wonder how much this "vaccine causes sterility" comes from that stupid Amazon TV show Utopia that was about a plot to fake a pandemic then give everyone a fake vaccine that sterilized everyone. Jokes on them, I'm storing my tainted sperm and I'm going to infiltrate their stores with my vaxcumTM.
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FFT posted:nah it's stolen from "aliens are gonna sterilize us for depopulation purposes" but tbf i don't think the 80s show V originated the concept That trope dates back at least as far as a 1977 short story titled "The Screwfly Solution", which was inspired by a real-world method of insect population control that debuted in the 1950s. (It could date back even further than that, this is just the oldest example I'm aware of.)
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"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
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The phrase "strong but rudderless distrust of the establishment" Really says it all. They don't really have any firm beliefs in how a country should be run, they just want "The Good Guys" to kill and detain "The Bad Guys" And somehow the world will sort itself out afterwards.
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DarklyDreaming posted:The phrase "strong but rudderless distrust of the establishment" Really says it all. They don't really have any firm beliefs in how a country should be run, they just want "The Good Guys" to kill and detain "The Bad Guys" And somehow the world will sort itself out afterwards. People desperate for (or incapable of tolerating anything but) simple answers to a complex world. It's a condition that exists outside of ideology, but leads to the extremes on either end.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the current bomb threat guy in DC may have given up on "Trusting the Plan" and started his own...
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Yeah I can't imagine that this rear end in a top hat isn't tainted by Q foolishness.
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I got obama/obama presidency.
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How are u posted:People desperate for (or incapable of tolerating anything but) simple answers to a complex world. It's a condition that exists outside of ideology, but leads to the extremes on either end. I'd say that a lot of the time the solutions are simpler than how they are presented. If only because the people who have the most to gain from the current situation being unchanged always talk about how "complex" systems are for them. The problem is when the default "solution" is just violence without any interrogation of what the violence is for or what it means. That and empathy being held up as a weakness.
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Cool how a white republican terrorist tried to attack the capitol again yesterday and it's barely a blip.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Cool how a white republican terrorist tried to attack the capitol again yesterday and it's barely a blip. Its was the top story on ABC news this morning.
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Yikes, the second thing on the left column starts with "Was a liberal. Even thought pedophilia was okay and should have the laws reworked." "Hello, fellow
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Abisteen posted:Yikes, the second thing on the left column starts with "Was a liberal. Even thought pedophilia was okay and should have the laws reworked." The full quote is  "Was a liberal. Even thought pedophilia was okay and should have the laws reworked. Thought feminism was great and was a cuck. AND ABOVE ALL I had a general anti-white/anti-American stance. THEN..the media that I trusted so much poo poo on me for one simple iddy biddy little thing..They called me racist homophobic misogynistic transphobic FOR...playing video games."
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Neo_Crimson posted:The full quote is So another sad case among countless thousands who completely self-sabotaged his entire life because someone criticized his favorite video game/anime series
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Would "hello fellow patriots, I used to be a Soviet Communist who wanted to destroy America by throttling their social progress, then I became a Hillary Clinton liberal to destroy America by throttling their social progress, but now I'm a QAnon who wants to destroy America by throttling their social progress for Jesus" be too on the nose or would that get in there too?
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OwlFancier posted:I suspect that might be somebody taking the piss. the greatest thing about the internet is that it also could be real and there's no way to know!
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PhazonLink posted:the show stole the idea from real life tinhats so there's some great feedback looping here. Yeah, that happens Alex Jones held up a copy of Guide to the Technocracy in 2015 and said that "The elites, they love transcendence, they all want to improve the human condition. We must stop this." That was the exact moment where everything started to break on a global scale. That was the historic, era-defining fuckup.
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Big Hubris posted:Yeah, that happens Alex Jones held up a copy of Guide to the Technocracy in 2015 and said that "The elites, they love transcendence, they all want to improve the human condition. We must stop this." Works of Darkness indeed.
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Big Hubris posted:Yeah, that happens Alex Jones held up a copy of Guide to the Technocracy in 2015 and said that "The elites, they love transcendence, they all want to improve the human condition. We must stop this." I don't believe you. I just refuse to believe you.
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Yes the adrenachrone factory is a level 3 node, harvesting primordial quintessence for Tass in the form of d10's
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That doesn't strike me as any weirder than people thinking a DnD session is literally a satanic ritual.
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Samuel Clemens posted:That doesn't strike me as any weirder than people thinking a DnD session is literally a satanic ritual. Qanon is basically the Satanic Panic 2.0 so it all tracks.
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