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You’re lucky they even bothered to spend the time to put together a server with a different rule set. If you want to be the coolest kid on the block with your guild and kill the big baddies for e-cred, you can still do so on a normal server. Or you can do it here, but it sounds like you really want that e-cred.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 15:49 |
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RCarr posted:You’re lucky they even bothered to spend the time to put together a server with a different rule set. If you want to be the coolest kid on the block with your guild and kill the big baddies for e-cred, you can still do so on a normal server. Not sure who that response was aimed at.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 15:59 |
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Just chiming in here on Velious Loot. There hasn't been a group this past week I have been part of that we didn't discuss how poo poo it is. Not just because they seem to have forgotten to randomize so many, or not make names rare, but the amount of loot is lower, and just garbage. I've been in every camp in Velks Lab, and the stuff dropping is simply not worth the effort. Right now, you're better off leveling in Seb. Velious gear was never all that great, but their even mixing in random poo poo. The Velious expansion didn't have a level climb, so it's really just about the locations, not the loot. Some of my favorite zones in the game are in Velious, but I vendor the loot You want to see the downside of randomized loot take a look at the LFG window and see who's available. Guarantee every high level search has at least one or two people in Unrest. What are they doing there? Farming the Knight for a chance at a Pegasus cloak. But not just for one, they will sit there for days and days, and collect things to sell. Everquest is the most "poop sock" experience you can have in an MMO, and the progression servers are allowing basement dwellers to do that all over again. Everquest (Original, Kunark, and Velious) has some high end gear that's worth getting, but the sweet money making stuff is through the 20's and 30's
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 16:09 |
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Bahanahab posted:Not sure who that response was aimed at. Whoever was originally upset that the raid tier dragons dropped the same or worse stuff as open world dragons.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 16:14 |
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Yeah, I still don't get the complaint. EQ has been on a tiny team for years, I was glad they...ever did anything ever. If they didn't give a poo poo, they wouldn't have even done the server. I dunno, don't any the people complaining have jobs? Haven't us adults learned that work is always more complex, busy, and difficult than those on the outside give it credit for? I know we have lots of software developers here. Even the tiniest of bugs can eat up a lot of time. Saying they "don't give a poo poo" is needlessly harsh, but I also know that game players on the internet like to fall back on that every time some online game doesn't 100% meet what that player (with some other vocal players) wanted. Unless like, mobs are dropping no loot at all, or stuff out of era, etc. Stuff that's obviously bugs. But this seems very much "doing exactly what we said". It's a silly server based on a silly idea with silly rules and silly poo poo happens. Anyone going into this *obviously* goofy idea thinking it'd be balanced or For Serious Raiders Only didn't even read the headline before clicking "I Agree". Finding the time to try to "balance" loot based on this goofy idea is hard to justify. Esp since TLPs fall off hard after PoP anyways. By their nature they're short-lived (by EQ terms) experiences, that people enjoy with little bits of different flavor each time. It's like the people who rolled on Agnarr and then bitched about it dying at PoP. Edit: quote:Not just because they seem to have forgotten to randomize so many, or not make names rare, but the amount of loot is lower Yeah - so that feels like some stuff they should fix. The amount is subjective, but obviously mobs that aren't randomized, or marked as rare properly. Have they commented on it? xZAOx fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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I was always confused what velious would look like the most. ToV quest drops were my path to gearing pre-raid in Mangler velious, so I can easily see how that expansion would be an absolute hot mess of trying to get drops. I assume none of the questable equipment drops, which basically means you’re doing the same thing every other velious server and grinding up EToV or giants? I can’t really think of many camps I did in velious that wasn’t faction grind related, only good drops or upgrades were quested or out of ToV iirc. I’m looking forward to learning where the vulak loot shows up eventually, maybe there will be an abundance of that one bard pbaoe regen song.. my mangler guild had half a dozen of them drop before velious ended.
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onesixtwo posted:I was always confused what velious would look like the most. ToV quest drops were my path to gearing pre-raid in Mangler velious, so I can easily see how that expansion would be an absolute hot mess of trying to get drops. I assume none of the questable equipment drops, which basically means you’re doing the same thing every other velious server and grinding up EToV or giants? I can’t really think of many camps I did in velious that wasn’t faction grind related, only good drops or upgrades were quested or out of ToV iirc. I’m looking forward to learning where the vulak loot shows up eventually, maybe there will be an abundance of that one bard pbaoe regen song.. my mangler guild had half a dozen of them drop before velious ended. it seems like they didnt even put vulak on the random loot tables, he just had his normal stuff. tho they are possibly changing the loot tables tomorrow, so we'll see what happens then? the quest gear still drops the way it normally did, tho it seems like both kael + skyshrine gear can drop from any trash mob in TOV, while thurgadin gear seems to still drop just in kael. and lol at the dude saying this is about 'e-cred', nobody gives a poo poo about that ESPECIALLY not on TLP servers, its about doing hard content only for it to be a complete waste of loving time. Trust me, if vulak + AOW loot are dropping from dragons in western wastes (which, i must reiterate, are not actual raid fights), it doesn't mean you + your buddies get a chance to get amazing loot, it means rear end in a top hat guilds will be making sure you never see a single one of those mobs alive.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 16:52 |
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If any of the proposed changes were in good faith they would be aiming for the start of Luclin. This is the most notorious krono farming guilds after maximizing the fire hose of loot for a week demanding the rules be changed for everyone else to protect their profits. If smaller more casual guilds can put together 2-3 groups and farm content with an extremely rare chance to drop stuff like Prismatic weapons (post-Sleeper Primals) or other ST loot it’s harder to sell. I’m open to arguments that the random loot needs tweaking in a later expansion, but this is just a small vocal group of players trying to work the refs to their advantage.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 16:58 |
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xZAOx posted:... needlessly harsh ... Isn't that what the internet was developed for?
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 16:59 |
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BGrifter posted:If any of the proposed changes were in good faith they would be aiming for the start of Luclin. Yeah, the Plane of Growth trash thread is basically the krono farmers trying to get the mobs nerfed to protect their income of Krono.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 17:02 |
eh IDK if that's the real motivation, altho i guess it wouldn't surprise me that much, but the loot rates already mean that the prices of normally expensive + hard to get items are already in the toilet and will never recover, even if the loot rules do change tomorrow. IIRC the proposed changes will mean MORE of the rare loot drops, since sleepers 1.0 loot and vulak loot will be put onto Tunare, Tormax, Yelinak, and Cazic Thule, who are all much more accessible.
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# ? Aug 24, 2021 17:34 |
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Sleeper's 1.0 loot is dropping in ToV and Tormax dropped Vulak loot. They already did some changes at least.
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ah, nice. they weren't in by the end of Monday so people were guessing it might go up after maintenance
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 03:56 |
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The best part is watching all the krono lords scramble to sell their sleeper's 1.0 loot before the prices drops hard
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# ? Aug 25, 2021 03:58 |
seems like they might have gone too hard the other way on some things, it seems like PoFear golems arent even fuckin randomized so you just get a big pile of old cazic loot every time you kill 1, darkwood trunks and AoN's for everybody
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A surfing dog?! posted:The best part is watching all the krono lords scramble to sell their sleeper's 1.0 loot before the prices drops hard Surely 450 real u.s. dollars is the true value of my gloves of dragon slaying! Maybe 400 today if I get no bites?? I mean, I hate those people. But I don't hate that, after we got like 9? ST key talismans they massively overpaid for them on day 3 and we could buy actually useful stuff. Those Perma clickies are interesting, I never l don't remember them at all. This random loot thing is both hilarious and frustrating. The aforementioned unrest dwarf yeah, very classic eq poopsock. But the three tormax heads in one kill and dozen prismatics in two hours and such give me incredibly hardy chuckles even if the *** of RZ and vindi dropped gently caress all on day one. It's the box army dps race KSing and blatant bots that are truly frustrating though. In EW farming snow griffin eggs, i watched a mage blast across from the succor direction at bard speed (on his lonesome) and round ST blasting hard on the 20% mob. It's been like that at points since I started a few weeks ago, but at least the instanced stuff keeps the absolute worst of it under control. Doesn't stop poo poo like epic pieces from being a bitch though, unfortunately.
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# ? Aug 26, 2021 15:37 |
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It hit me today the best way to gear up on Mischief is to log out for a month and come back when everything is selling for pocket change. I hit CoV Ally and turned in everything but the Tunic (don’t have) and the Boots (they suck) so that was cool. About half way through the Coldain Prayer Shawls. Need to park myself in Velks and farm 75x Crystalline Silk Threads next. I really need to stop procrastinating and grind out 60 but I can feel my enthusiasm to log in fading with each passing day. I don’t know if I’ll make it to PoP at this rate. My memories of Luclin were mostly negative and it’s still 3+ months to PoP.
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# ? Aug 29, 2021 23:28 |
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BGrifter posted:It hit me today the best way to gear up on Mischief is to log out for a month and come back when everything is selling for pocket change. If you can get the servitor camp locked down 24/7, you'll br in good shape.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 00:26 |
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DisgracelandUSA posted:If you can get the servitor camp locked down 24/7, you'll br in good shape. I doubt I could lock down Fippy Darkpaw 24/7 lol Luclin raiding back in the day is all one big blur. I know I got keyed for VT but I don’t think we made any progress in there. I have clear memories from individual raids in Kunark, Velious and tons from PoP. I don’t think I could name any of the Luclin bosses. I am a little bit intrigued by the possibility of a Beastlord alt so maybe that will keep me playing through Luclin.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 00:47 |
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BGrifter posted:I doubt I could lock down Fippy Darkpaw 24/7 lol You can't name them because they were all nearly unpronounceable. Oh and all the ring events.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 00:49 |
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Zil posted:You can't name them because they were all nearly unpronounceable. Oh and all the ring events. Yeah I remember a lot of names like Diablos Xi Lootsackacus not to be confused with Diablos X Lootsackacus, Diablos Xu Lootsackacus, Diablos Ki Lootsackacus, Diablos Fred Lootsackacus and Diablos nWo Lootsackacus.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 00:52 |
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The post 50 grind sucks, but I'm making progress on good nights, and trying to limit the impact of bad nights. I'm half way through 57 now and still enjoying it, but I can also feel the desire to log in slowly slipping away. I had some horrible group experiences last week. Velks is still the place to be to just level, and although the loot kind of sucks, we did see this belt drop last night. Of course the caster won the roll https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6279
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 13:51 |
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you let the caster roll on that? lol
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 14:31 |
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please knock Mom! posted:you let the caster roll on that? lol Unless something is substantially different on mischief, every roll on every loot in a pug is gonna be greed rolls ( everyone need ).
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 15:16 |
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rally posted:Unless something is substantially different on mischief, every roll on every loot in a pug is gonna be greed rolls ( everyone need ). Yeah it wasn't like we were out looking for specific items or raiding. Just the ole PUG and need rolls on everything. Groups are usually fine with giving something to whoever needs it, but on an item like that, I didn't question it. I figured most of the folks in the group would have sold it anyways.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 15:24 |
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Feeling the itch again and wanting to try mischief. Is it still worth hopping in on this server?
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 16:36 |
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trauma llama posted:Feeling the itch again and wanting to try mischief. Is it still worth hopping in on this server? Mischief is certainly busy enough, and even the starting zones have a good population as others are joining, or rolling alts. The low level starting gear is dirt cheap as well since the anniversary event pumped a lot of it into the economy. I still say that was a great thing for new characters. If you're starting out on the server, try to find yourself a low level rare to camp. I did very well in The Desert of Ro killing as many Rohatep's as I could find at the Undead Ruins. I bet I killed 200 of him in a weekend, sometimes kiting two at a time... That was during the double event though. That was the gear and money injection I needed to get a footfold, and I've done pretty well.
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# ? Aug 30, 2021 18:18 |
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lol spotted this eBay review from 2007. Seemed relevant to the year 2021.
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trauma llama posted:Feeling the itch again and wanting to try mischief. Is it still worth hopping in on this server?
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 01:41 |
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I have a dumb dumb request can somebody post the text from the file marked neriack_3.txt in the map folder I accidentally deleted mine (dont ask)
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 05:35 |
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Haruharuharuko posted:I have a dumb dumb request can somebody post the text from the file marked neriack_3.txt in the map folder I accidentally deleted mine (dont ask) mine's just a blank file but I can post it if you want, if something is screwy there's some sort of repair utility hidden in the launcher options
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 05:57 |
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Haruharuharuko posted:I have a dumb dumb request can somebody post the text from the file marked neriack_3.txt in the map folder I accidentally deleted mine (dont ask) Wouldn't the patcher just redownload it?
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 06:05 |
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Zil posted:Wouldn't the patcher just redownload it? I will try that but my map was full but i clicked clear map because i accidentally drew on it and it deleted the whole thing
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 06:06 |
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There is also the maps site that has custom labeled ones http://www.eqmaps.info
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Zil posted:There is also the maps site that has custom labeled ones So i grabbed that and now I have labels but no lines ack
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Haruharuharuko posted:So i grabbed that and now I have labels but no lines ack edit: didnt work Edit 2: Deleted my character holy hell and new version is fine jeez Im an idiot thanks all Haruharuharuko fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Aug 31, 2021 |
# ? Aug 31, 2021 06:17 |
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So, got our crew to 59 finally (worked picked up a shitload so we stalled out for like a month), what's a decent guild to join at this point? Looks like there's been some top end drama or something as I no longer see faceless around. We're not down for bat phoning, though the guy I play with has more time than me, I can raid a few nights a week + maybe an off-night thing or two.
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 06:25 |
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I feel like I should turn in some kind of card or something i didn't have the base layer of the map on.
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# ? Aug 31, 2021 06:47 |
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that's actually how you receive your EQ nerd card these days, you get a seal added to the corner the first time you learn how to use the height filter to navigate vertical zones where the map is just line vomit on top of line vomit
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blatman posted:that's actually how you receive your EQ nerd card these days, you get a seal added to the corner the first time you learn how to use the height filter to navigate vertical zones where the map is just line vomit on top of line vomit All the downloadable maps use a single layer, it's super loving annoying.
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