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nomad2020 posted:Up till a few hours ago we were collectively wondering if a bunch of glorified hills the Army put up were going to fail, which also doesn't really make sense in a sane world. im fairly surprised they didnt
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aside from being the first president to support the Taliban, another thing you can lay at Jimmy Carter's door is killing domestic nuclear power and permitting nuclear proliferation abroad
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The AZ5 button in the American nuclear power plant just launches a drone strike on a Middle Eastern country
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also jimmy shut down the government 5 times because of abortion? idk something I read
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mod sassinator posted:did they really build this freaking nuke plant 23 miles from downtown New Orleans and upstream of it on the Mississippi river?? look at this guy who thinks we could have built the plant downstream of New Orleans, a port on the coast 
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brugroffil posted:I think they need a week of on-site fuel for the diesels, it's covered in the regs somewhere. Fukashima happened because the generators were installed pretty low and got flooded and couldn't run. Since it doesn't seem like Waterford got flooded at all, let alone enough to make that happen, it'll be fine. Yeah Fukashima was due to multiple "fail safe" system failing at the same time.
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bedpan posted:aside from being the first president to support the Taliban, another thing you can lay at Jimmy Carter's door is killing domestic nuclear power and permitting nuclear proliferation abroad also supporting genocide in East Timor and really marking the death of the New Deal coalition. Jimmy Carter was a very bad president who, much like George H.W. Bush, gets glossed over because he was a 1 termer and the directly preceding/succeeding president was far more studied.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:also supporting genocide in East Timor and really marking the death of the New Deal coalition. my boomer parents still speak fondly of Jimmy Carter
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I will never stop loling at how there is a major nuclear reactor incident every 15 years and every time they say "no no no we redesigned it so that accident is impossible! u just don't understand atoms!" Please don't pay attention to all the uranium dust spewing everywhere in the refining process and the weapons grade plutonium we just keep accidentally spilling, all that is not part of what I define as nuclear therefore nuclear is the best energy of all.
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Somehow I don't think a psychotic right wing white reactionary screaming at a black meteorologist is the fightback against capital media we need but feel free to "shut the gently caress up liberal" me I crave it
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:a zero carbon future absolutely requires a robust nuclear infrastructure, dude. can't just bury your head in the sand over it because you're scared of ATOMS thats cool but what part of your plan requires posting about it in the cspam weather thread?
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Real hurthling! posted:thats cool but what part of your plan requires posting about it in the cspam weather thread? when people think a nuclear power plant is going to fukushima new orleans due to the most recent major hurricane????????? idgi its not like this was out of nowhere
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Time to check out of this thread until the next hundred year weather event sometime this week.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I will never stop loling at how there is a major nuclear reactor incident every 15 years and every time they say "no no no we redesigned it so that accident is impossible! u just don't understand atoms!" Please don't pay attention to all the uranium dust spewing everywhere in the refining process and the weapons grade plutonium we just keep accidentally spilling, all that is not part of what I define as nuclear therefore nuclear is the best energy of all. wait until this guy finds out how much radiation pollution comes from coal plants
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etalian posted:Yeah Fukashima was due to multiple "fail safe" system failing at the same time. fukushima was because the company ignored warnings that their diesel generators would get flooded in a tsunami, and then their diesel generators got flooded in a tsunami properly regulated nukes would be great, but government in the united states can't do proper regulation, and having a private company take the profits while the risks are carried entirely by the people living in the potential 20-mile exclusion zone is a bad proposition to me
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Time to check out of this thread until the next hundred year weather event sometime this week. California never stopped burning down this entire time
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Dustcat posted:it's a good thing that for every anti nuke knee jerk there's a guy who's super into nukes and will not shut the gently caress up about how great they are 
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PostNouveau posted:lol Lake Charles still hasn't gotten supplemental disaster aid New Orleans is hosed Lady of the Sea General Hospital 
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can't believe the Mistress of the Briny Deep Hospital disappeared under the waves
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:weird, it looks like the present to me
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The Oldest Man posted:Somehow I don't think a psychotic right wing white reactionary screaming at a black meteorologist is the fightback against capital media we need but feel free to "shut the gently caress up liberal" me I crave it Yeah I'm not sure frantically clinging to every screaming lunatic as a potential ally is going to go well in America Most of them are, well, very bad
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SKULL.GIF posted:wait until this guy finds out how much radiation pollution comes from coal plants
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If you contrarians don’t want to acknowledge that Trumpists are getting wilder and more openly threatening, just because I said it, go right ahead. But don’t worry, I got a haircut Saturday wearing a mask in a fully vaxed and masked salon, so I’m probably already dead.
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:a zero carbon future absolutely requires a robust nuclear infrastructure, dude. can't just bury your head in the sand over it because you're scared of ATOMS I'm the guy who died from solar energy. Wicked sunburnt
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Fukishima was hit by an earthquake and a tsunami, and then suffered a massive steam explosion that led to a meltdown, and it still only killed like 2 people and cancer rates in the surrounding area have barely even changed. the amount of radiation leaking is minimal compared to the loving insane amount of radiation coal plants bellow into the atmosphere and environment. For comparison, the West, Texas plant explosion killed 15 people and injured 200+ people and spewed toxic material all over the loving place. The Texas City refinery explosion in 2005 also killed/injured a very similar number of people, and also spread toxic carcinogens in a wide swathe of land. Nuclear accidents are insanely rare by comparison to similar accidents related to fossil fuels and their demonization is entirely fueled by propaganda from the fossil fuel industry
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MadJackal posted:If you contrarians don’t want to acknowledge that Trumpists are getting wilder and more openly threatening, just because I said it, go right ahead. everyone posting in C-SPAM is a contrarian, that's what the C stands for
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Fukishima was hit by an earthquake and a tsunami, and then suffered a massive steam explosion that led to a meltdown, and it still only killed like 2 people and cancer rates in the surrounding area have barely even changed. the amount of radiation leaking is minimal compared to the loving insane amount of radiation coal plants bellow into the atmosphere and environment. After Fukashima, US utilities had to spend billions upgrading to prevent any sort of similar failure. Similar for security upgrades after 9/11. After West, TX, US chemical companies didn't have to do poo poo. Probably got deregulated some more.
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:everyone posting in C-SPAM is a contrarian, that's what the C stands for I don't believe you.
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Dustcat posted:it's a good thing that for every anti nuke knee jerk there's a guy who's super into nukes and will not shut the gently caress up about how great they are "super into nuclear power guy" is such a classic 2000s-era internet forum guy that I find it endearing. One of the few of those archetypes still around and going strong, having the exact same argument for two decades straight. It's like if there were still edgy atheists popping up occasionally to talk about the flying spaghetti monster. (nb i am also a nuclear power guy)
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MadJackal posted:If you contrarians don’t want to acknowledge that Trumpists are getting wilder and more openly threatening, just because I said it, go right ahead. Too bad you didnt get one in nola last night
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nuclear power is cool and good and thank god its the year 1960 which will be early enough to start building sufficient nuke plants to take over the bulk of the US power grid and help prevent the worst consequences of this global warming thing
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MadJackal posted:If you contrarians don’t want to acknowledge that Trumpists are getting wilder and more openly threatening, just because I said it, go right ahead. hey man why is delta so bad? i thought covid was over
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The Oldest Man posted:Somehow I don't think a psychotic right wing white reactionary screaming at a black meteorologist is the fightback against capital media we need but feel free to "shut the gently caress up liberal" me I crave it gently caress reactionaries AND the media hth
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Derek Fcking Carr posted:I'd personally like to thank the large oil company CEOs for ensuring not a single drop of oil was spilled in the gulf of Mexico during this crisis time to get some extra cajun style shrimp and grits
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MLSM posted:gently caress reactionaries AND the media hth thank you poster M(l)SM
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slippery doc posted:"super into nuclear power guy" is such a classic 2000s-era internet forum guy that I find it endearing. One of the few of those archetypes still around and going strong, having the exact same argument for two decades straight. It's like if there were still edgy atheists popping up occasionally to talk about the flying spaghetti monster. Can I be the guy that thinks light water reactors fundamentally suck and that molten salt reactors might not fundamentally suck? A deeper level of nerdom.
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Aurubin posted:Can I be the guy that thinks light water reactors fundamentally suck and that molten salt reactors might not fundamentally suck? A deeper level of nerdom. be the molten salt dude who gets really horny over a half realized technology
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