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MakaVillian posted:They definitely underestimated how angry people would be calling an election right now. I get that they were riding high in opinion polls but it seems like a real short-sighted move, especially when they knew a 4th wave was coming or was already here. Angry? I'm pumped. Give the Libs their majority, let them implement aggressive vaxx mandates, take away a little freedom that we, as a population, are too dumb to handle and pick up the other lefty stuff in 4 years. https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/1414580885937086464 I've mentally catalogued voluntary non-vaxxers closer to drunk driving than second hand smoke.
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Aug 31, 2021 19:17
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In Nova Scotia news, looks like Houston’s plan for health care involves splitting the Dept of Health & Wellness into 3 departments (Health & Wellness, Mental Health, and Seniors & Long Term Care), along with an office of Health Care Professionals Recruitment. Seems like a loss of efficiency, but maybe the increased spotlight on homecare and long-term care will be a good thing?  Guess we’ll find out
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Aug 31, 2021 19:44
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How many homes does Houston own as a landlord.
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Aug 31, 2021 19:44
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A third as many as he's about to, from the sounds of things
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Aug 31, 2021 19:46
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Crow Buddy posted:I would rather err on the side of being overly cautious on the risk of infection among the vaccinated. Right, but "vaccination doesn't stop people from transmitting the virus," without any further elaboration, sounds an awful lot like the lie that vaccines don't work. The truth is closer to "vaccination is 100% effective" than to "vaccination is 0% effective."
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Aug 31, 2021 20:15
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tagesschau posted:Right, but "vaccination doesn't stop people from transmitting the virus," without any further elaboration, sounds an awful lot like the lie that vaccines don't work. The truth is closer to "vaccination is 100% effective" than to "vaccination is 0% effective." The problem is most people cannot handle any nuance whatsoever. I mean, look at what's going on: they simply cannot deal with anything but certainty and very basic statements for the most part.
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Aug 31, 2021 20:22
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Angry? I'm pumped. Give the Libs their majority, let them implement aggressive vaxx mandates, take away a little freedom that we, as a population, are too dumb to handle and pick up the other lefty stuff in 4 years. What vax mandates lol. The one where federal government employees have to get vaccinated (but also won’t be fired if they don’t)?
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Aug 31, 2021 20:33
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Looks like the libs may have made a bad call here. It's early days but the prediction market has quite the gap. I threw in a few bucks for lib majority day 1 since "why would they call it if they didn't think they had an easy one?" Have now thrown a few more at "any other outcome" to hedge. 
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Aug 31, 2021 21:10
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I find it hard to believe that BC's highest recorded daily case count was only 1293 back in April. The new modeling is suggesting up to 1200 a day by the end of September with new cases. So much of BCs announcements stink of cases being underreported and we know they've been obfuscating key information on how the pandemic has spread in the province. 1293 seems like it was a lowball.
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Aug 31, 2021 21:25
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1432705390760927253?s=20 The best part is the Tories are getting the exact same 34% they had in 2019
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Aug 31, 2021 21:32
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Typo posted:The best part is the Tories are getting the exact same 34% they had in 2019 So it looks like progressives are getting tired of the Liberals and their empty promises and slowly bleeding off to the NDP. I hope that THIS TIME with more youth voter engagement that the swing vote to the Tories won't be bigger than the progressive swing to NDP. Or else FPTP will give us at least a conservative minority if not worse. It seems post 2019 polls greatly overestimate support for centrist/liberal parties versus conservatives. There might be a shy tory effect in play here. I know people who are so fed up with mask mandates and vaccinations (I work with some of them!) and they're flying off the deep end to vote PPC even!.
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Aug 31, 2021 21:36
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sitchensis posted:The conspiracy mind in me thinks that this election might have been a set up by insiders to turf Trudeau and bring in a new leader. I have heard a rumor that Mark Carney is being groomed as a replacement. Cool. The last Liberal leader the party decided to import worked out very well for them.
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Aug 31, 2021 22:12
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Not that many of you kind folk are the target for this poo poo, but please don't vote for the grits just because the more bad guys are ahead. Life will be worse under the CPC but the libs need to stop getting a pass because of that.
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Aug 31, 2021 22:33
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Just vote for the good party! Lol, jk, give it to the ndp or a throwaway Marxist/Rino party.
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Aug 31, 2021 22:34
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This, but unironically. Still waiting for Jagmentum to collapse at the last possible second like it always does for the NDP and all the scared pissbaby voters to go running back to the Libs and Cons when it down to put up or shut up time.
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Aug 31, 2021 22:49
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Also how beautifully circular is it that Trudeau's aspirational hubris at once was both the thing that saved us from Harperland AND the the thing that condemned us to return to Harperland at warp speed?
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Aug 31, 2021 22:58
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nine-gear crow posted:This, but unironically. Still waiting for Jagmentum to collapse at the last possible second like it always does for the NDP and all the scared pissbaby voters to go running back to the Libs and Cons when it down to put up or shut up time. My hope is this time people stick with NDP since while Cons might get to be "in charge", it doesn't look like they can form a majority, so it's not like they'll get to steamroll their legislation through. They're not making any gains it's just Liberal losses. There's no Canadian Trump train we have to derail, the people that are really scared this election are either already hard Cons or jumping to People's Party because of scary vaccine passports we've had for decades.
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Sep 1, 2021 00:21
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Embrace the glory of Interim Premier Goertzen. https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/kelvin-goertzen-to-become-manitoba-s-next-premier-1.5568544
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Sep 1, 2021 00:32
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nine-gear crow posted:Also how beautifully circular is it that Trudeau's aspirational hubris at once was both the thing that saved us from Harperland AND the the thing that condemned us to return to Harperland at warp speed?  we never left harperland
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Sep 1, 2021 02:35
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Kraftwerk posted:So it looks like progressives are getting tired of the Liberals and their empty promises and slowly bleeding off to the NDP. I hope that THIS TIME with more youth voter engagement that the swing vote to the Tories won't be bigger than the progressive swing to NDP. Or else FPTP will give us at least a conservative minority if not worse. It seems post 2019 polls greatly overestimate support for centrist/liberal parties versus conservatives. There might be a shy tory effect in play here. I know people who are so fed up with mask mandates and vaccinations (I work with some of them!) and they're flying off the deep end to vote PPC even!. Hi and welcome to the Orange Mirage. (These votes will flip Lib on polling day)
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Sep 1, 2021 02:44
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Can't wait to celebrate the decimal-percent NDP gains from the previous government over the next five years of getting turbofucked by
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Sep 1, 2021 03:05
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Bleck posted:Can't wait to celebrate the decimal-percent NDP gains from the previous government over the next five years of getting turbofucked by Their best showing yet! It helps if you realize that at least some of the party insiders still look fondly on the "Orange Crush" of 2011, wherein they were the official opposition, and completely powerless against a CPC majority. That's the high water mark for these folks. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 03:11
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Isn't that how Horwath is running the ONDP too?
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Sep 1, 2021 03:57
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infernal machines posted:Their best showing yet! It's precisely this kind of attitude that makes me resent the NDP. The height of their seat count was like the worst era for Canada since NAFTA and the cuts under Chretien. Granted we have nothing but the libs to blame for this but the NDP piss me off because they're a false choice. They're a party that is left of everyone else but has no real plans to form government, or be a credible alterative to the liberals. The NDP are basically French's ketchup when the store is sold out of Heinz.
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Sep 1, 2021 04:03
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Aces High posted:Isn't that how Horwath is running the ONDP too? Absolutely and its frustrating as hell to watch. The Cons landed a sweeping majority but the NDP gained a few seats to mark their highest seat total since the Rae days and that is seen as resounding success.
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Sep 1, 2021 04:09
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Aces High posted:Isn't that how Horwath is running the ONDP too? I mean, they've got the most MPPs in parliament today since 1990, so who's to say she's wrong?
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Sep 1, 2021 04:10
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Furnaceface posted:Absolutely and its frustrating as hell to watch. The Cons landed a sweeping majority but the NDP gained a few seats to mark their highest seat total since the Rae days and that is seen as resounding success. It's a resounding success for the party, the insiders and whatever fundraising they were able to achieve from this. Their entire political goal is to get as many of the candidates they personally like and feel connected to into Queen's Park or Parliament Hill so they can grift off govt salaries and build sinecures for themselves via govt and associated thinktanks. Change my mind. The best thing that could ever happen to Canada is if the NDP became electorally insignificant and a real social democratic party replaces them and prevents any of the failsons from joining and starting another grift. Canada is packed with real social-democratic talent. I'm convinced there's people out there who'd do a good job if there was a vehicle/party for them to ascend into politics through. Instead the NDP sit there and occupy that spot in our political spectrum and are basically dead weight that keeps us from getting a real party that actually wants to do something. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 04:23
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Went to a bar after a slow pitch game only for someone to ask "so who is everyone voting for?" and one guy to say he was debating between the People's Party and Maverick party. Then I remembered where he lives and his PPC nominee is Derek Sloan. fuckin ugh FUCKIN UGH
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Sep 1, 2021 04:50
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Kraftwerk posted:It's a resounding success for the party, the insiders and whatever fundraising they were able to achieve from this. Ok, so who are you voting for then.
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Sep 1, 2021 12:11
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I think once I was in my 20s I realized any politician running for office is doing it out of narcissism and to further their career. That's obvious and true for every party. When the liberals are hated the NDP mops up their votes. It's not their fault that situation can lead to a conservative majority. The solution isn't to abolish the NDP it's to abolish FPTP which is what leads to this happening. Abolishing the NDP and creating a "real" sociodemocratic party is never going to happen. No party can exist in our capitalist institutions and remain unaffected by them. All that would result is a two part system with the liberals gaining all the NDP votes. What you are basically proposing is a merger between the liberals and ndp. That's not good for anyone.
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Sep 1, 2021 12:29
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nine-gear crow posted:This, but unironically. Still waiting for Jagmentum to collapse at the last possible second like it always does for the NDP and all the scared pissbaby voters to go running back to the Libs and Cons when it down to put up or shut up time. Or the Liberals pull an Ontario and actively sabotage the NDP because they consider Conservatives to be preferable to someone even the tiniest, wispiest hair to the left
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Sep 1, 2021 12:48
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linoleum floors posted:Ok, so who are you voting for then. Space Jam
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Sep 1, 2021 13:10
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I want the NDP more than I want the Liberals so that's who I'm going to vote for. I've bought into the Libs protection racket for the last 20-ish years and I'm done with it. "Oh no, you don't have to vote for me, but it sure would be a shame if you voted for someone else and the Conservatives came and burned your house down." What will be, will be.
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Sep 1, 2021 13:50
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linoleum floors posted:Ok, so who are you voting for then. The NDP. But I do so with resentment and knowledge it helps the conservatives in my riding because the NDP will never win here.
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Sep 1, 2021 13:57
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quote:Starting Sept. 22, proof of vaccination will be required at many non-essential businesses in Ontario, including gyms and movie theatres, and will be needed to dine indoors at restaurants under the province’s new COVID-19 vaccine certificate program, government sources confirm to CTV News Toronto. https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/proof-of-vaccination-will-be-required-at-movie-theatres-gyms-restaurants-in-ontario-sources-1.5569180
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Sep 1, 2021 13:58
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ZeeBoi posted:https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/proof-of-vaccination-will-be-required-at-movie-theatres-gyms-restaurants-in-ontario-sources-1.5569180 So here's my question. What are the consequences for businesses that say "we will not be checking vaccine passports"? Any consequences? Because I can already hear the howling from some insane gym people.
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Sep 1, 2021 14:25
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I feel like maybe having these mandates figured out before everyone started vaccinating so that we could have certificates actually given to people instead of probably cramming everyone into a wait list to get it would have been prudent.
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Sep 1, 2021 14:25
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Kraftwerk posted:The NDP. But I do so with resentment and knowledge it helps the conservatives in my riding because the NDP will never win here. The NDP still isn't even bothering to run a candidate in my riding yet so I guess I'll send them another $3 and sit out. MA-Horus posted:What are the consequences for businesses that say "we will not be checking vaccine passports"? In Manitoba we haven't even implemented our announced mandate like this yet and already there's a list of places that have openly advertised "we won't be checking your vaxx card!". As you suggested, a lot of them are gyms for whatever reason. InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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Sep 1, 2021 14:27
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Kraftwerk posted:The NDP. But I do so with resentment and knowledge it helps the conservatives in my riding because the NDP will never win here. 
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Sep 1, 2021 14:45
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Bleck posted:I feel like maybe having these mandates figured out before everyone started vaccinating so that we could have certificates actually given to people instead of probably cramming everyone into a wait list to get it would have been prudent. If it's like Quebec there won't be any real wait for all but a handful of people. You just have to show a QR code and ID matching the information the QR code pulls up. You can either use an app, a pdf, or a printout of that pdf to show the code. It's not like the government is individually sending each person a card. I guess if you don't have a phone and no way to access a printer (libraries are explicitly excluded from requiring the passport though) then yeah it might be a little tricky. Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Sep 1, 2021 |
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