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My local-ish vaccine place has an opening for my first jab available on the 22nd of October so that's fun. Everyone is vaccinated lets open up. Before anyone says "just go to another place" I'm already walking to another town to get to this place. Sometimes I swear I live in the place most equidistant from everything else that is not a house in all of greater Sydney. Phigs fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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Phigs posted:My local-ish vaccine place has an opening for my first jab available on the 22nd of October so that's fun. Everyone is vaccinated lets open up. That sucks. I had about 15-20 places to choose from that were in walking distance to me when I booked. All had availability that was within 4 weeks. I am in inner Sydney but it does feel odd how this is all allocated.
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Phigs posted:My local-ish vaccine place has an opening for my first jab available on the 22nd of October so that's fun. Everyone is vaccinated lets open up. AZ or Pfizer? you dont even need a booking to get AZ in the spicy LGAs. just turn up.
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https://twitter.com/SquigglyRick/status/1433300170456797186 Morton's been writing about the pressure on the NSW hospital system lately, so, I'm sure this is fine
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Sep 2, 2021 06:57
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Nah I'm nowhere spicy. Not even close to anywhere spicy. It's a leafy middle-class boomer suburb that I can only afford to live in cause I rent a separate unit in someone's house. One of those quiet places where everything is outside of the town so nobody from outside has any reason to ever come in and there's multiple cars per family so the residents don't care. We've also got super high vaccination rates here because of being middle-class boomer central, so all the places would be getting slammed even though we're in a fairly safe area. There's probably some other places I can book though, like I said very equidistant from everything. One has a 30 day wait, which I guess is better. There's also a couple ones with no listed waiting time but I doubt they'd be any better. No popup places just existing clinics in town centers. I'm not too worried for myself, I have a respirator and I'm a natural shut-in so I'll most likely be fine. Just pointing out how it's not a case that everyone is just vaccinated up who wants one. Though I'm sure the thread is aware that kids can't even get them so nobody is shocked to learn there's lots of people out there just straight up vulnerable to this thing.
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https://www.9news.com.au/national/c...42-c66c8f19dcc6quote:A Sydney COVID-19 patient is recovering from a self-inflicted bout of diarrhoea and vomiting brought on by the unproven drug ivermectin, the latest round in a battle against self-medicating Australians.
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New appointments open all the time. The waiting list can go from weeks to days in 48 hours or less, so it's always worth checking every couple of days.
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Sep 2, 2021 07:41
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There was an article saying pharmacists had noticed an increase in people getting proscribed  but refusing to say why.
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Eediot Jedi posted:There was an article saying pharmacists had noticed an increase in people getting proscribed Obviously for their pet horses /s
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Sep 2, 2021 08:19
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Back in my day taking the horse drug constipated you.
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The Monthly's daily wrap is one of the better pieces of COVID writing going, and today's is a good summary of Palascuk's tweet and the question everyone is trying to avoid about exactly how many deaths we're prepared to deal with (or, rather, which freedoms we're willing to sacrifice to keep them low): https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/rachel-withers/2021/02/2021/1630562120/grim-tweeter
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Sep 2, 2021 08:45
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Word on the street is Morrison is calling an election after the 5 week break would help explain the UAP texts
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Not surprised. If he waited until next year we'd probably in peak death post open er up and that would make his vaccine rollout look even shitter.
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StrangeThing posted:I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm not sure I see a realistic path forward other than 80% (or 90%) fally vaxxed and regular ongoing health controls. What else can be done? Targeting 100% vaccination (realistically 95%, for people who might have legitimate exemptions, requiring unprecedented levels of coercion to get there) might keep things under adequate control, as would have months of lockdown + high levels of vaccination targeting towards total elimination with permanent 2-week quarantine for all international arrivals. Both of these don't meet the 'realistic' criterion now, and people might legitimately come to the conclusion that they are infeasible or not worth the cost, but people would give a lot more serious consideration to these options if the government had communicated to the population that the 80% target means we will continue to have several thousand cases and daily deaths instead of saying 'yeah we'll just get to 80% and things will be cool' The question about how many deaths people are prepared to deal with is totally incongruous with what is currently being offered. The poll that says 61% of Australians want death tolls to stay <100 a year shows how misinformed people are. The majority who think that we should be aiming for this number either has to agree with a total elimination strategy, 100% vaccination with the police going around to jab people at gunpoint (which may or may not achieve this anyway), or acknowledge that what they are asking for is an impossibility (I don't put blame on individuals for thinking this, though, since this is the question the government refuses to answer by dancing around 70-80% vaccination targets)
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abigserve posted:90% double dose, entire population, a plan in place for boosters, consistent, clear mask rules indoors and finally - a national vaccination tracking app so those that can't get jabbed are protected as much as possible. 90% of total population just wont happen without co-ersion. 80% is s streeeeeetch but I'd say that's what it should be. 80% total population. Plans for boosters, consistent clear messaging about everything (because frankly there simply hasn't been and it's part of the reason why AZ uptake was so bad and honestly I'm still pissed at how ATAGA screwed the pooch on that one) Vaccine passports. Tracking app I think would be more state based but still accepted in other states. Absolutly no one gets on a plane without full vaccination, no one does health and frontline border without vaccination, at least home based quarantine for travellers, preferably larger scale setups that in total can handle 20,000-30,000 people a week minimum across the country, testing of travellers mandatory no matter what the quarintine situation turns to be. I'd be aiming to limit the damage to the equivalent of a flu season. I wish I was a dictator goal - Put a fence around antivaxxers and dont let them near society again.
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Got my second Pfizer dose today, and was told I should expect to find some kind of vaccine confirmation in my mygov account in a couple of days. Has anyone else received a confirmation? I think someone mentioned a few pages back that they were really easy to forge. In other news, this Jordies video is worth watching for anyone because it doesn't contain any Jordies! It's a panel interview with NSW police asking to clarify the purpose of the fixated person's unit and whether they were used appropriately to arrest the guy working for him, and it seems that the purpose of the fixated person's unit is actually very broad, and the police can't really talk about it since it's in court. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGlUhmIpfKI
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:90% of total population just wont happen without co-ersion. 80% is s streeeeeetch but I'd say that's what it should be. 80% total population. I'm actually coming around on Australians getting to 80% in most states without too much bullshit. Agree that 90 will take some heavy lifting though.
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Just need a more deadly variant and we can attack 90% from both ends, increase the numerator, decrease the denominator
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TheMostFrench posted:Got my second Pfizer dose today, and was told I should expect to find some kind of vaccine confirmation in my mygov account in a couple of days. Has anyone else received a confirmation? I think someone mentioned a few pages back that they were really easy to forge. Yeah mine arrived about 12 hours after my second Pfizer shot.
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"it's as bad as the flu" is about the best we can hope for at this point I think.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:90% of total population just wont happen without co-ersion. 80% is s streeeeeetch but I'd say that's what it should be. 80% total population. If we're talking about down the track and including all age groups I think we'll get to 90%+ easy. We have a really good comparative general vaccine rate in the first place, and that's without all the vaccine passport stick-carrot stuff that will inevitably happen. abigserve posted:"it's as bad as the flu" is about the best we can hope for at this point I think. For the indefinite future it's going to be worse than the flu simply because COVID is worse than the flu, unless/until it mutates down to something less deadly. And bearing in mind that Delta is already far more communicable than the flu, so even if the disease itself isn't as bad it's still worse just because more people are getting it etc. Actually it's going to be kind of funny if it does mutate down in the next 2-3 years and everything is gradually getting back to normal and then bam: new highly virulent flu strain pandemic.
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freebooter posted:If we're talking about down the track and including all age groups I think we'll get to 90%+ easy. We have a really good comparative general vaccine rate in the first place, and that's without all the vaccine passport stick-carrot stuff that will inevitably happen. I'll put money on the covid vaxx being added to the yearly flu vax after we get on top of this.
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kirbysuperstar posted:if it quacks like a duck there's no difference What happened to that one goon who was going to deliberately infect themselves and their spouse so they could beat the rush on the ventilators? But it was okay, they were both "health professionals"!
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Megillah Gorilla posted:What happened to that one goon who was going to deliberately infect themselves and their spouse so they could beat the rush on the ventilators? For their sake, I hope they are ok.
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https://www.alp.org.au/other/labors-colouring-book/ Hey kids, pandemic taking over the country, everyone slowly going insane, some plague rats want to let er rip? Take your mind off it with a colouring book!
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://www.alp.org.au/other/labors-colouring-book/ Only colours included: Beige, Yellow.
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bowmore posted:Word on the street is Morrison is calling an election after the 5 week break Wonder how they'll handle National Cabinet during a caretaker period. If an election is coming soon it's absolutely because they've realised that there is no good path out of this. They either pull off another miracle win, or Labor is running the country when Covid explodes nationally.
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I just remembered Deb Frecklington What are some politicians you guys remember?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I just remembered Deb Frecklington Darren Cheeseman
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I just remembered Deb Frecklington Donald MacDonald
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Chadzok posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc From the comment section: quote:Come Out Of Her My People!
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freebooter posted:If we're talking about down the track and including all age groups I think we'll get to 90%+ easy. We have a really good comparative general vaccine rate in the first place, and that's without all the vaccine passport stick-carrot stuff that will inevitably happen. There's only two countries with a full vacced rate of over 80% - Malta and Singapore. Singapore is 80% and according to the article here has given up on zero Covid as well https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/08/singapore-gives-up-goal-of-covid-zero-despite-high-vaccination-rate/ So I really have my doubts we'll get that high. 85% seems to me to be probably the high water mark for total population coverage, that includes the people who cant be vaccinated and of course the idiots that wont. The Measles vaccination rate is 95% but that's taken yeaaaaaaaars of effort and a lot of enforcement/co-ersion (No jab, no school, no pay etc). Actually I'm almost talking myself out of thinking 90% is not achievable but the reality is it will take more than just passports / flight bans. Stuff like workplaces insisting on vaccinations or you are fired, child care saying vaccinate or don't come near the place, Nimbin /Craig Kelly / Clive Palmer and the festering pustule of antivaxxers in the northern rivers areas being swallowed by the earth etc, Centerlink insisting on no jab no pay (Which honestly I don't like that idea, sounds like too good a way to gently caress over unemployed people). I know my workplace will move to a no jab / gently caress off dont come through the door policy shortly. Cpt Soban posted:I'll put money on the covid vaxx being added to the yearly flu vax after we get on top of this. Already in testing so that's a bet you will win.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:The Measles vaccination rate is 95% but that's taken yeaaaaaaaars of effort and a lot of enforcement/co-ersion (No jab, no school, no pay etc). yeah, just do this. you dont have to get vaccinated but you also dont have to go to the pub/shops/school/whatever.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I just remembered Deb Frecklington Deb!
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Targeting 100% vaccination (realistically 95%, for people who might have legitimate exemptions, requiring unprecedented levels of coercion to get there) might keep things under adequate control, as would have months of lockdown + high levels of vaccination targeting towards total elimination with permanent 2-week quarantine for all international arrivals. Yeah <100 deaths a year is not even obtainable in NSW with the current lockdown. We had 7 deaths today. The 7 day average is currently 4. If that holds we're looking at an average of ~1460 deaths a year in NSW alone. And it's likely to go up even if we don't ease restrictions. quote:Asked to nominate the number of Covid-related deaths that it would be acceptable for Australia to live with once restrictions are eased, 61% of respondents say fewer than 100 deaths per year, 25% say between 100 and 1,000 deaths per year, 10% say between 1,000 and 3,000 deaths per year, 2% say between 3,000 and 5,000 deaths per year, and 3% say more than 5,000 deaths per year. Australians are not interested in what our politicians are preparing to unleash on this country with those numbers if they're representative. Only 3% are cold-blooded enough, 15% if you're an optimist. They are just so woefully informed about what the government's plan actually means. What they actually want can only be gotten with what amounts to basically a zero COVID strategy. Maybe they'd accept more death if they knew what it would take to get under 100, but they're not being given the information necessary to make that decision. A lot of Australians are gonna find themselves surrounded by a lot more death than they ever anticipated once we open up.
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