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This perspective may help: https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-welfare/home-ownership-and-housing-tenure quote:Where household tenure was known: So annual overseas travel is roughly one third as common as home ownership, and still less common than home ownership without mortgage.
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Kazzah posted:I don't know which version I'm getting, it doesn't say Why don't you just book an AZ vaccine for sooner?
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I'm extremely down for the guy criticising konomex for saying the vast majority of australians don't holiday overseas by posting stats saying that 20% of them do lol
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Solemn Sloth posted:I'm extremely down for the guy criticising konomex for saying the vast majority of australians don't holiday overseas by posting stats saying that 20% of them do lol The vast majority do travel. 20% traveled overseas in a given year.
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Sep 6, 2021 04:22
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StrangeThing posted:The vast majority do travel. 20% traveled overseas in a given year. So post some stats that back up that assertion that the vast majority of Australians holiday overseas. 43% of Australians don't even have a passport.
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Sep 6, 2021 04:23
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Solemn Sloth posted:So post some stats that back up that assertion that the vast majority of Australians holiday overseas. The vast majority may not travel overseas, but they do at least interstate. We are talking about state and international travel here. But yeah. The majority of people have travelled offshore. Travelling internationally is a common thing in Australia. This isn’t a weird thing to say.
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I don't know anyone that hasn't been overseas on a holiday. A lot of it is cheap stuff like Bali and whatever, but it's not like international travel is some 1%er concept alien to the majority of people. For some I'm sure it's a matter of will to go overseas. I'd assume that plenty of people with a stable income and cash to spend on luxuries don't go overseas because they just don't care.
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JBP posted:I don't know anyone that hasn't been overseas on a holiday. A lot of it is cheap stuff like Bali and whatever, but it's not like international travel is some 1%er concept alien to the majority of people. For some I'm sure it's a matter of will to go overseas. I'd assume that plenty of people with a stable income and cash to spend on luxuries don't go overseas because they just don't care. Yeah I think New Zealand and Indonesia are the two most common destinations.
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Sep 6, 2021 04:33
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they found that little autistic boy who was lost in the bush for 4 days! he's ok!
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StrangeThing posted:What proof do we have that the majority of the spread is through people breaking the rules, and not through essential workers? Do we have that breakdown available? I don’t know if the health department provides those details. We do know that compliance is way down, both from direct observation and also from mobility data. We can see there’s a huge number of mystery cases each day too, when people are abiding by the rules I don’t think we’d be getting anywhere near as many. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that a significant percentage of transmission is taking place due to acts of non compliance, even without hearing anecdotes from contact tracers.
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JBP posted:I don't know anyone that hasn't been overseas on a holiday. A lot of it is cheap stuff like Bali and whatever, but it's not like international travel is some 1%er concept alien to the majority of people. For some I'm sure it's a matter of will to go overseas. I'd assume that plenty of people with a stable income and cash to spend on luxuries don't go overseas because they just don't care. But still concern about international travel is bond to be overrepresented among journalists, and therefore the “public consciousness”, relative to the population as a whole.
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gay picnic defence posted:I don’t know if the health department provides those details. We do know that compliance is way down, both from direct observation and also from mobility data. We can see there’s a huge number of mystery cases each day too, when people are abiding by the rules I don’t think we’d be getting anywhere near as many. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that a significant percentage of transmission is taking place due to acts of non compliance, even without hearing anecdotes from contact tracers. Maybe! I don't think we know enough to say for sure though what the breakdown is. In any case, there's not much that can be done. I don't really know of any other enforcement measures they could introduce at this point.
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StrangeThing posted:Maybe! I don't think we know enough to say for sure though what the breakdown is. Well they could stop construction for one thing, have a grace period to mothball anything time critical (like maybe concrete pours in progress, that kind of thing) and then shut it down. It’s not a short term essential service, it’s exactly the kind of “how much firefighting do I want to do every day forever” bullshit that I was alluding to before. Closing it down and then opening it back up was an act of defeatism.
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The Artificial Kid posted:Well they could stop construction for one thing, have a grace period to mothball anything time critical (like maybe concrete pours in progress, that kind of thing) and then shut it down. It’s not a short term essential service, it’s exactly the kind of “how much firefighting do I want to do every day forever” bullshit that I was alluding to before. Closing it down and then opening it back up was an act of defeatism. Yeah I guess I forgot about construction.
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Launchpad McQuack posted:gently caress this negative poo poo. What is everyone gonna do when they can do stuff again? Come people look forward to some good poo poo and I want to hear it. If I am alive by the time this all passes that will probably be good. We'll see what happens then. If delta gets into WA in any significant numbers I am probably hosed.
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Sep 6, 2021 04:50
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I listed a lot of international stuff but the first moment I can go to a pub and get a big parma and a schooner I will be doing exactly that.
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Laserface posted:the first moment I can go to a pub and get a big parma and a schooner I will be doing exactly that.
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Sep 6, 2021 05:21
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The cinema. I miss it a lot. And board game nights.
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Sep 6, 2021 05:21
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NSW have released their modelling showing a peak of ~2000 cases a day in the next month and uhhhhhh. https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-09/Intensive_Care_Capacity.pdf Unless I'm totally missing something it seems like this modeling assumes daily cases dropping to basically nothing by Christmas, which seems totally impossible at this point.
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Senor Tron posted:NSW have released their modelling showing a peak of ~2000 cases a day in the next month and uhhhhhh. Even if they hit 80% fully vaxxed that’s still 1.6 million or so people unvaccinated. With no or limited restrictions delta is going to rip through those people.
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Senor Tron posted:NSW have released their modelling showing a peak of ~2000 cases a day in the next month and uhhhhhh. That 2200 - 3900 number includes non-covid patients.
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Sep 6, 2021 05:28
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StrangeThing posted:I mean, over 50% of Australians have a passport. That’s higher than a lot of countries. You'd hope a lot of Australians have passports when 30% of them were born overseas.
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I’m all for encouraging conservatives to take a dangerous medication in the erroneous belief it will protect them from a deadly virus.
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StrangeThing posted:And board game nights.
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Feeling bad for anyone thinking international holiday travel is going to be feasible unless you can afford quarantine time/expenses on arrival both ways. There's no "new normal once deltas calms down", there's new variant scares every year or two, forever. Leaving the country is going to incur the risk of being trapped overseas for 6 months at a time when the Aquarius Variant causes a snap lockdown. We ruined society as we know it.
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Hashy posted:Feeling bad for anyone thinking international holiday travel is going to be feasible unless you can afford quarantine time/expenses on arrival both ways. There's no "new normal once deltas calms down", there's new variant scares every year or two, forever. Leaving the country is going to incur the risk of being trapped overseas for 6 months at a time when the Aquarius Variant causes a snap lockdown. We ruined society as we know it. I mean this in all honesty: please, log off for a bit. This type of catastrophizing doesn't do you good.
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Border quarantine is gone in a ton of places worldwide and it's days here are already numbered for the vaccinated
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perepelki posted:they found that little autistic boy who was lost in the bush for 4 days! he's ok! yay!
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NPR Journalizard posted:Boardgamearena.com helps with this. When we were in lockdown, I managed to have a few nights where we would all jump on teams or skype or something and play games. https://tabletopia.com/ is also good
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Sep 6, 2021 06:04
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The world would probably be a better place, and necessary for climate change, if spoilt bougie dickheads couldn't just fly down to Amsterdam to see a soccer game on a whim because its cheap.
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Sep 6, 2021 06:31
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Solemn Sloth posted:I mean "dealing with" doesn't necessarily mean investigating. "Maybe if you weren't nagging him all the time, he wouldn't beat you." certainly falls under the standard police definition of 'dealing with' domestic violence. So does, "You slapped him after years of brutal beatings? Let's see how a night in the cells sorts you out then." Police response to domestic violence has improved a lot since I lived through it was a kid. I mean, nowadays they occasionally even acknowledge it exists in fire-and-forget press releases.
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You won't see this on the news https://mobile.twitter.com/juststeveisfine/status/1434411713009491973
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Pleasant Friend posted:The world would probably be a better place, and necessary for climate change, if spoilt bougie dickheads couldn't just fly down to Amsterdam to see a soccer game on a whim because its cheap. *In the most insufferable fuckhead voice I can produce with my mouth* friendo, you should log off for your own mental health. This catastrophizing is bad for you
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Wizard Master posted:You won't see this on the news There was a media report about this on the weekend. In Sydney, the distro centres are in the spicy LGAs which means a huge amount of their staff are currently in iso. That means they're supplying their NSW stores from other states, leading to unpredictable stock levels. https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...002588ba1fccc3b
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Lolie posted:There was a media report about this on the weekend. In Sydney, the distro centres are in the spicy LGAs which means a huge amount of their staff are currently in iso. That means they're supplying their NSW stores from other states, leading to unpredictable stock levels. wrong buddy its THE TRUCKIES! god bless em  https://twitter.com/Malkarnivore/status/1434618170438946819
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Launchpad McQuack posted:gently caress this negative poo poo. What is everyone gonna do when they can do stuff again? Come people look forward to some good poo poo and I want to hear it. I am going to go to Japan. I got a job over there which I was offered in Sept. of last year. and I have been unable to get my work visa due to government restrictions. (To be fair these are Japanese Government restrictions. I could easily get an exception to leave Aus. as I would be leaving for work, and would be out of country for more than 3 months.) So come on everyone, lets all get healthy so I can get back to work learning foreign kids to talk English proper good again!
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