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Thanks for the effortpost here!
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Sep 13, 2021 21:08
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is PMJ an op to ruin this thread
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Sep 13, 2021 21:09
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Stairmaster posted:is PMJ an op to ruin this thread The people want the content! Anyway work's wrapping up soon and I'll be touching grass. Just one last thing. Relevant Tangent posted:If you've convinced yourself that the horse paste enthusiasts are the better bet here that's really a you problem. Laughing at idiots isn't un-Leftist afaik. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3765018 Education is the bedrock of communism. Authoritarianism is not the problem - fascism is the problem.
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this thread routinely posts stuff that ranges from confirmed facts to batshit crazy, often on the same page, sometimes in the same post, and personally I like it that way
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Oh thanks Brain Curry that's a perfect way to get the thread back on track. Let's roll out the "free cuppy tea" posts for this page free cuppy tea he ain't do poo poo
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Brain Curry posted:this thread routinely posts stuff that ranges from confirmed facts to batshit crazy, often on the same page, sometimes in the same post, and personally I like it that way This thread is by far the most "open" thread in cspam, and that's a good thing. it's a shame when homodox thinkers try to shout down more far out reads of our current situation. I get the sense that a lot of those same posters would have been shutting down conversations about the epstein network 5 years ago. mark immune has issued a correction as of 21:25 on Sep 13, 2021 |
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Brain Curry posted:this thread routinely posts stuff that ranges from confirmed facts to batshit crazy, often on the same page, sometimes in the same post, and personally I like it that way Yeah but we're not at the sixth page of a dumbass trying to justify why his fear of needles is more important than not killing his grandpa.
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I feel you're missing the forest for the trees. My principal concern is the mandates, lockdowns, other things what have destroyed, are destroying, or will destroy the working class. I said I'd stop but you're mischaracterizing me now. Also my older loved ones are vaccinated therefore protected therefore I'm not a risk to them. Moreover, as already stated and cited, vaccination does not prevent transmission and does not lower rate of transmission either. So me getting jabbed wouldn't do anything for that anyway.
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Sep 13, 2021 21:26
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I feel you're missing the forest for the trees. My principal concern is the mandates, lockdowns, other things what have destroyed, are destroying, or will destroy the working class. I said I'd stop but you're mischaracterizing me now. that's incorrect, vaxxed individuals are infectious for a shorter period of time
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I'm vaxxed and it feels good. Would do it again 10/10
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Also my older loved ones are vaccinated therefore protected therefore I'm not a risk to them. It's the unvaccinated keeping the drat thing active, which is leading to greater [chance of] variants, which the current vaccines may not be as effective against. The unvaccinated are a risk to the vaccinated for that alone. Also, children.
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Sep 13, 2021 21:32
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Yes I know the phrase "give me liberty or give me death" means nothing to our generation. Yes, I know. It's a stupid mantra to live(die) with(not of).
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lil poopendorfer posted:that's incorrect, vaxxed individuals are infectious for a shorter period of time gregday posted:It's the unvaccinated keeping the drat thing active, which is leading to greater [chance of] variants, which the current vaccines may not be as effective against. The unvaccinated are a risk to the vaccinated for that alone. Also, children. I said I'd stop and you're making it very hard. But I seriously will now - I'm typing this on my phone. Poopendorfer, it depends on the strain. Much higher for longer in vaccinated and unvaccinated, both, for Alpha. Comparable transmissibility periods for Delta. I'm referencing the PHE report from my effortpost, see there. Couldn't get a good look before I had to clock out but I'm fairly sure I interpreted the graph correctly. Gregday, that's not how mutations work at all. Especially not for a respiratory virus with animal vectors. Mutations can't be avoided for that reason. I posted the same with slightly more elaboration in this thread before, look through my posts, I would but on my phone.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:The people want the content! Anyway work's wrapping up soon and I'll be touching grass. Just one last thing. The fascism is in the anti-science, anti-reason and anti-enlightenment groups marching with guns, having meltdowns about mask and vaccine mandates and picketing hospitals. You're carrying water for fascists by spreading this disinformation, you broke brained idiot.
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Another Bill posted:The fascism is in the anti-science, anti-reason and anti-enlightenment groups marching with guns, having meltdowns about mask and vaccine mandates and picketing hospitals. I really need some of you to stop projecting. I am not the one here advocating for coerced medical procedures, medical apartheid, restriction of movement, requiring two forms of documentation (pass and ID) for normal life, enhanced tracking and surveillance, and all of this poo poo. You are! We are still talking about an illness with a 1.6% overall mortality from the beginning of the pandemic to now, right? Get a loving grip. Do you know why this poo poo, all of it, is relevant to the Epstein thread? We discuss mass trauma in here. You would've been opposed to passports a year ago, today you will go along with anything anything just to get mommy and daddy to "let you" go outside. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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weird how everyone in the hospital for covid isnt vaccinated
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I really need some of you to stop projecting. I am not the one here advocating for coerced medical procedures, medical apartheid, restriction of movement, requiring two forms of documentation (pass and ID) for normal life, enhanced tracking and surveillance, and all of this poo poo. You are! shut up idiot
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Perry Mason Jar posted:free cuppy tea he ain't do poo poo
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PMJ, are you assuming that there are zero long-term organ issues caused by covid and that deaths are the only # that matter? that's what the american policies assume as well, and lol good luck e: wtf, probations shouldn't be allowed in this thread
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I really need some of you to stop projecting. I am not the one here advocating for coerced medical procedures, medical apartheid, restriction of movement, requiring two forms of documentation (pass and ID) for normal life, enhanced tracking and surveillance, and all of this poo poo. You are! Okay but maybe keep your uneducated medical advice to yourself
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Sep 13, 2021 22:02
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free Perry Mason Jar
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paul_soccer12 posted:free Perry Mason Jar I've freed him in the only sense that matters
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I really need some of you to stop projecting. I am not the one here advocating for coerced medical procedures, medical apartheid, restriction of movement, requiring two forms of documentation (pass and ID) for normal life, enhanced tracking and surveillance, and all of this poo poo. You are! serious question here, how bad would the disease and/or how less incompetent the government have to be for something along these lines to be justified? I totally agree liberal government is loving up the response badly, and I quite understand the suspicion of pharma companies, but at a certain point it seems like even in a glorious communist utopia you'd have to take some serious public health measures and frankly you seem opposed to the concept
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Stevie Lee posted:PMJ, are you assuming that there are zero long-term organ issues caused by covid and that deaths are the only # that matter? last time this came up he said that long covid symptoms were inseparable from the effects of ptsd and thats when i loled and checked out
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallopquote:The Gish gallop is a term for a rhetorical technique in which a debater attempts to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.
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medical apartheid lmao
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free pmj and also cuppy tea
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Perry Mason Jar posted:
You're literally posting about horse dewormer, but I'm the one who needs to get a grip? lol  
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Stevie Lee posted:PMJ, are you assuming that there are zero long-term organ issues caused by covid and that deaths are the only # that matter?  pmj may be very dumb about Covid vaccines but the correct response to stupidity is laughter
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Relevant Tangent posted:
yeah he's full of poo poo but this thread is the place to go wild imo
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my bony fealty posted:free pmj and also cuppy tea
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Perry Mason Jar posted:https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3765018 as a caveat, SSRN isn't a peer-reviewed journal and several of the 9 or so papers that have cited this study are also non-peer-reviewed preprints that are likely submitted and in review at a peer-reviewed journal. That being said, from what I understand, ivermectin was first proposed as it was found to have some antiviral properties in treating SARS, so it shouldn't be so surprising that it was/is investigated as part of COVID treatment. I remember trying really hard to find analyses that provided some kind of clarity about ivermectin's potential use and, at best, I could find some data that suggested ivermectin (usually administered with other factors like HQC and vitamins etc...) could reduce mortality for those suffering COVID in the worst stages, but even that was inconsistent between studies. I saw even less consistent data for a positive effect for earlier stages of COVID. From what I could tell, the positive effects in previous work are not clear (e: I wanna emphasize here that I definitely only checked out a handful of newer meta-analyses and there is likely many out there who know better) and whereas papers like this one in SSRN provide a potential solution, especially for countries desperate for any help, I hope it can meaningfully integrate into ongoing/pre-existing studies. I do believe there is a huge capital impetus to prioritize and exclusively use highly patentable mRNA vaccines especially if booster shots could become a thing and it's silly to ignore some of the obvious limits of our approach to combatting covid blah blah blah etc etc etc Stevie Lee posted:e: wtf, probations shouldn't be allowed in this thread
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I do think there's a big push from the liberal center to propagandize vaccines and castigate anti-vaxx and related people, simply because it's the only button they can press now that capital is clear they don't want lockdowns and if they can just put all the blame on those fuckin' rubes then maybe people won't notice it's a complete shitshow all around. But it doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective or that the hardcore anti-vaxx people aren't odten hilariously stupid.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Do you have another example of them doing this? I went back to 2013, which is as far it goes, here: https://www.theabfm.org/communications/news lol NY Post and the Telegraph. lmao
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StashAugustine posted:I do think there's a big push from the liberal center to propagandize vaccines and castigate anti-vaxx and related people, simply because it's the only button they can press now that capital is clear they don't want lockdowns and if they can just put all the blame on those fuckin' rubes then maybe people won't notice it's a complete shitshow all around. But it doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective or that the hardcore anti-vaxx people aren't odten hilariously stupid. yeah, "pandemic of the unvaccinated" joey b tried that one out again the other day lmao
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StashAugustine posted:I do think there's a big push from the liberal center to propagandize vaccines and castigate anti-vaxx and related people, simply because it's the only button they can press now that capital is clear they don't want lockdowns and if they can just put all the blame on those fuckin' rubes then maybe people won't notice it's a complete shitshow all around. But it doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective or that the hardcore anti-vaxx people aren't odten hilariously stupid. totally, there's huge benefits to polarizing a complex issue and disregarding all criticism as opposition, for example, u get people arguing over who is carrying more water for the fascists
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does anyone here think PMJ sixxered himself? lmao wake up sheeple
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