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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

shrike82 posted:

not sure why you'd assume the premise - the dynamic is people talk revolution during non-election years and then over-invest in the left candidate on an election year

it's happened every single time even in CSPAM and i expect it to happen again in 2024 whether it's deathbed Bernie or "Tax the Rich" AOC

when feudal society opened its jar and let all the evils of class struggle out onto the world only hope/ΔεΜ οςΓαςΥ was left inside the jar

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

lol

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Dreylad posted:

it's not a dead end but if people want to bring it about it's a multi-generational project. even the new right had complete electoral failures for decades before it came into being and was able to seize institutional power, and it never faced the same kind of institutional hostility the way any kind of nascent left would.

i think what people underestimate if enough people do decide to go that route and commit to building something that will take 40 years to grasp power is that a lot of your movement can probably be bought off with mild social democratic reforms

fighting capitalism in the arena of its dictatorship seems like a profound waste of time if even those that wouldn’t threaten its power like Bernie and corbs got capitalist death rays turned on them

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Raskolnikov38 posted:

fighting capitalism in the arena of its dictatorship seems like a profound waste of time if even those that wouldn’t threaten its power like Bernie and corbs got capitalist death rays turned on them

hey, can't say I disagree, just that the idea of people who think that you could just overthrow entrenched institutions in a 4 or 6 year span are just not understanding the kind of grind it actually has been historically.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





sorry but the gear thing is dumb as hell this isn't civ

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

I thought the joke was that you straight up can't make and american flag without it looking fasc

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

ello what's all this then

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

How was the gym

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014


Lol

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Algund Eenboom posted:

How was the gym

I'm ripped as hell dude. Two years of arm curls only.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

R. Guyovich posted:

I'm ripped as hell dude. Two years of arm curls only.

are you here to reclaim your admin star and save the forums

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

ohohohohohohoho

wb

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

platzapS posted:

rip gonzalo and norm

BUt also, RIP sincerely

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

R. Guyovich posted:

I'm ripped as hell dude. Two years of arm curls only.

thats whats up

wb

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Dreylad posted:

hey, can't say I disagree, just that the idea of people who think that you could just overthrow entrenched institutions in a 4 or 6 year span are just not understanding the kind of grind it actually has been historically.

could you post some entrenched institutions that were overthrown by a decades long grind instead of 4 to 6 years of intense crisis and revolution/ civil war?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Raskolnikov38 posted:

are you here to reclaim your admin star and save the forums

i'd sooner drink drano

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

could you post some entrenched institutions that were overthrown by a decades long grind instead of 4 to 6 years of intense crisis and revolution/ civil war?

do you think, for example, the social and material changes that led to the Russian revolution began in 1910?

Stockwell
Mar 29, 2005
Ask me about personal watercraft.

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

sorry but the gear thing is dumb as hell this isn't civ

This makes the Communist Party of Canada sad

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

incorporating a gear makes sense in countries that have no rural peasantry to speak of

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

In Training posted:

do you think, for example, the social and material changes that led to the Russian revolution began in 1910?

i guess that depends on whether you think the romanovs were grinding towards revolution?

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

sorry but the gear thing is dumb as hell this isn't civ

it should be an extremely intricate drawing of a 3 axis milling machine like mozambique with the ak

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Stringent posted:

i guess that depends on whether you think the romanovs were grinding towards revolution?

i was just trying to point out that revolutionaries who desired socialism and fought for it existed in russian for a long, long time before the bolsheviks were able to seize political control of the nation. not that voting for AOC or whatever is a revolutionary act, but that class struggle manifests in a lot of ways before a successful revolutionary change from the status quo occurs

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

sorry but the gear thing is dumb as hell this isn't civ

what does the gear have to do with the civilization series?

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





R. Guyovich posted:

incorporating a gear makes sense in countries that have no rural peasantry to speak of
it looks dumb. if there is a way to make it look not dumb then great but I'm not seeing it

anyway we don't have a working class either. the american communist flag should just be the mcdonald's arches to signify our class solidarity as consumers sitting on our fat asses in the imperial core

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Goast posted:

what does the gear have to do with the civilization series?
I think the early ones used shields to signify production, then switched to hammers at some point (worth pointing out that the last good civ game civ4, uses hammers to signify workers, as any good game should) then the more recent ones switched to gears because they're out of ideas just like american communist parties

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

anyway we don't have a working class either.

yes you do? weird statement

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

mila kunis posted:

yes you do? weird statement

Someone's going to tell you to read Settlers now

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

wb

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
i submitted this when we had a flag referendum a few years back

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

needs more red star imo

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

whoah wb

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

wb, you've been missed

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

homex is back, does that mean that it's starting:


https://twitter.com/YEASTY_COMMIE/status/1291298519568048128

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

:sickos:

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
lmao

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

Welcome back

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 73 days!
the boys are back in town

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

R. Guyovich posted:

ello what's all this then

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wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

I loving hope so

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