indigi posted:

these dirty rear end crackers

Sickening posted:

Racism is really funny.

Sickening posted:

Racism is really funny.

Mr. Nice! posted:

stolen from n/v and loving

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1440077903660650503?s=19

Mr. Nice! posted:

stolen from n/v and loving

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1440077903660650503?s=19

quote:

It is third-and-6 at the Chargers’ 22-yard line with the game tied, 14-14, in the fourth quarter. This crucial moment is why you pay quarterbacks. The defense knows what you are doing, have worked all week on a plan for this moment and are calling their best plan which includes a blitz and Cover 1 behind it.

Let’s take a look:



Noah Brown (85) is on the outside at the bottom with CeeDee Lamb (88) inside of him. Lamb will run a vertical to clear it out and Brown will cut across his path to the inside. Amari Cooper (19) is up top after motion and will take his man on a go. Elliott (21) will hit the left flat. Dalton Schultz (86) is going to run an out where he stems past the sticks and gives Prescott a target with the idea of gaining leverage on his man (athletic safety No. 24 Nasir Adderley).



The Cowboys are in scat protection which means five targets are out in routes, leaving only five linemen to protect. No problem if there is no blitz, but if there is, you have five for five. If anyone loses, Dak has to know he has no help cleaning that up. It’s pretty clear the Chargers are in Cover 1 with man across and a single safety deep. This is the most common third-down coverage in football.



Here is the end-zone view where you can size up the protection. Tyron Smith is losing to edge Uchenna Nwosu on the left side of the line and Terence Steele is beaten quickly at the snap by Joey Bosa. Zack Martin (70) is amazing. Martin is trying to block his guy and clean up for Steele. His idea is his left hand can keep his guy beaten and then with his right hand he can block Bosa. This is very ambitious and the truth is in the NFL you cannot block anyone with one hand, but you can briefly impede him.



I say briefly because this snap is going to hurt. Smith got beat, Steele got beat and frankly, Martin is losing, too, as I assume he was hoping Tyler Biadasz was going to assist on his left more than Steele did on his right. Three Chargers — Nwosu, Christian Covington (former Cowboy) and Bosa — are all about to get to Prescott at the same moment. Prescott had other things on his mind. He stood tall and delivered as Schultz is at the top of his stem. It becomes a matter of if he can throw a strike while bracing for contact.



Here is what it looked like when the ball arrived. Nothing is easy on third down.



The receiver is pleased and defender is frustrated. It is one of six third-down conversions and one that a young Prescott was incapable of completing.

They say the game slows down when you reach a certain point and I believe we have arrived there.

indigi posted:

that’s excellent ball placement

quote:

The Cowboys are in scat protection

blarzgh posted:

With extreme pressure in his face, through a tiny window at LoS. I've been trying to tell y'all.

Doltos posted:

I dunno why blarzgh goes through so much effort to prove Dak is good when I already said Dak is good and he can just use that as evidence

indigi posted:

there’s value in proving that you’re correct

Doltos posted:

I dunno why blarzgh goes through so much effort to prove Dak is good when I already said Dak is good and he can just use that as evidence

blarzgh posted:

This is true! and also its fun to talk about Football.

You also said Eli was better than Aikman, so we're gonna go ahead and verify things through an independent source.

Quiet Feet posted:

Independent source here. He's right.

Quiet Feet posted:

Independent source here. He's right.

blarzgh posted:

Doltos's Claim - Eli better than Aikman because:

1) Eli has better regular season stats.
2) Eli threw away less games in the playoffs.
3) Troy threw "more powerfully." (Eye test?)
4) Troy threw "more accurately." (Eye test?)


1) Eli has better regular season stats.
- Eli manning finished his career with a regular season record of 117 - 117. A perfectly .500 QB.
- 60.3% completions
- 4.5% TD
- 3% INT
- 7 y/att
- 241 y/g
- 84.1 Rate

- Troy Aikman finished his career with a regular season record of 94-71.
- 61.5% completions
- 3.5% TD
- 3% INT
- 7 y/att
- 199 y/g
- 81.4 Rate


Without adjusting for the decades they played in, they're pretty much even (unless you look at their overall record.)
Adjusting for Era, however, Troy was top 10 in passer rating 6 times in the 1990s.
1991 NFL 86.7 (6)
1992 NFL 89.5 (3)
1993 NFL 99.0 (2)
1994 NFL 84.9 (5)
1995 NFL 93.6 (3)
1998 NFL 88.5 (8)

Eli was only a top 10 passer 1 time in 15 years: 2011 NFL 92.9 (7th.)

Also, Eli led the league in interceptions 3 times (2007, 2010, 2013). He has the 12th most interceptions of All Time.

I think its pretty clear that Troy was the better regular season QB, both by stats, and by record/performance.

2) Eli threw away less games in the playoffs.
In the Playoffs, Eli threw 18 touchdowns, and 9 interceptions. In seasons that NY didn't win a superbowl, he never won a playoff game, and he threw 3 TD and 7 Ints. He played in 12 playoff games over fifteen years, and "threw away" a third of them (4).

In the Playoffs, Troy threw 23 touchdowns, and 17 interceptions. In all of his playoff losses, he threw 8 TD and 10 Ints. He played in 15 playoff games over fifteen years, and "threw away" one fifth of them(3).

The fact is that Troy Aikman "threw away" fewer total playoff games, despite playing in more of them, and did it at a much lower rate than Eli did.


3) Troy threw "more powerfully." (Eye test?)
4) Troy threw "more accurately." (Eye test?)
These are part of the problem. I can tell you things like "Pat Summerall called Troy Aikman the most accurate passer he ever saw." and that dozens of coaches and pundits have called his accuracy generational, and I can tell you that Eli Manning has been called, "Not Accurate, Whatsoever.

I can also tell you that I've watched games and highlights of both Troy Aikman and Eli Manning, and its obvious to me and anyone who watches that Troy is the More accurate passer.

In terms of "powerful", I think there are dozens of QBs widely regarded to be "hard throwers" and Eli and Troy aren't in that category. The Dan Marinos and Brett Favres of the world are known for throwing the ball hard; Jamarcus Russel could sit on the 50 yard line and throw a football 5 yards.

Also, I can also tell you that I've watched games and highlights of both Troy Aikman and Eli Manning, and its obvious to me and anyone who watches that Troy is the More Powerful passer.??

some moron posted:

Without adjusting for the decades they played in, they're pretty much even (unless you look at their overall record.)
Adjusting for Era, however,

Doltos posted:

some idiot posted:

In the Playoffs, Eli threw 18 touchdowns, and 9 interceptions. In seasons that NY didn't win a superbowl, he never won a playoff game,

ASAPRockySituation posted:

Point to similar support networks for Eli. I’ll wait.