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I, too, love to wait for my handheld to update for over an hour when I want to play a game real quick.
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Antigravitas posted:I, too, love to wait for my handheld to update for over an hour when I want to play a game real quick. that's weird, I wouldn't love that if it happened
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Sep 21, 2021 14:35
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Anything you might want to run in addition to Steam - Discord, TeamSpeak, OBS, various emulators - also have Linux versions, so I can't see any particularly good reason to install Windows.
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Sep 21, 2021 14:56
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I want to run productivity software so I can leave a keyboard mouse and monitor at work and just plug my game boy into it instead of lugging around a laptop
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grieving for Gandalf posted:that's weird, I wouldn't love that if it happened It grows on you after a while.
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Sep 21, 2021 16:30
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Anything you might want to run in addition to Steam - Discord, TeamSpeak, OBS, various emulators - also have Linux versions, so I can't see any particularly good reason to install Windows. Compatibility
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Sep 21, 2021 18:29
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Anything you might want to run in addition to Steam - Discord, TeamSpeak, OBS, various emulators - also have Linux versions, so I can't see any particularly good reason to install Windows. Game Pass.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:54
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WTFBEES posted:Game Pass.
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Sep 21, 2021 19:18
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As of right now Proton tests can only give us limited info until the SteamOS 3.0 update launches alongside the Deck, which will apparently have a “much-improved” version of Proton, certainly at least a different one due to 3.0’s switch from Debian to Arch.
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Antigravitas posted:I, too, love to wait for my handheld to update for over an hour when I want to play a game real quick. I actually haven’t run into that issue. I also haven’t run into that issue on my main gaming OC either. Even the last larger windows 10 feature update took 10 min at most. It’s far from ideal but for the most part if I want to use my windows handheld to play a game nothing has stopped me.
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Sep 21, 2021 19:27
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Pirate Jet posted:As of right now Proton tests can only give us limited info until the SteamOS 3.0 update launches alongside the Deck, which will apparently have a “much-improved” version of Proton, certainly at least a different one due to 3.0’s switch from Debian to Arch. Proton is developed in plain sight, the Proton Experimental branch is exactly what you're going to get.
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pseudorandom name posted:Proton is developed in plain sight, the Proton Experimental branch is exactly what you're going to get. well, minus the anti-cheat stuff they're supposedly working on, which is presumably wrapped up in NDAs
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WTFBEES posted:Game Pass. Touché.
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Does gamepass let you play offline? The last time I had to make use of the steam offline functionality was back in 2015 or so and it was not a super experience. I don't know if it has since improved, but the Switch seems to understand that the console might go for a long time without connecting to the internet and updates are unobtrusive and always give the option to forgo them in favor of just playing. Hopefully Valve has figured out something similar for the deck.
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Sep 21, 2021 23:45
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Antigravitas posted:I, too, love to wait for my handheld to update for over an hour when I want to play a game real quick. It hasn't been that way for a long time unless you're running a really lovely HDD and processor.
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Sep 21, 2021 23:58
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I've been running 11 since the first insider build dropped and I haven't had to wait more than a few minutes for updates to install and the machine to get back to login. I might buy a cheap Windows key just to test it out, worst case scenario I can factory reset the thing. Although I'll probably wait for someone else to benchmark it first.
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Antigravitas posted:I, too, love to wait for my handheld to update for over an hour when I want to play a game real quick. well its not just a handheld. The dock makes a full mini pc. There's many reasons to install windows, though I agree if you're just handheld alone not much. e: have they mentioned the price or specs of the dock yet? I'm very much expecting something expensive as hell
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Sep 22, 2021 02:43
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Docks aren't really expensive themselves, why would the Steam Deck one be much more expensive?
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sigher posted:Docks aren't really expensive themselves, why would the Steam Deck one be much more expensive? Branding and to make up for the hit theyre taking on the machine itself both sound likely. It isn’t a slick drop-in deal like the switch dock though so I can’t see myself buying one
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Barreft posted:well its not just a handheld. The dock makes a full mini pc. There's many reasons to install windows, though I agree if you're just handheld alone not much. The dock will just be a stand with a standard USB-C breakout box inside. I have a generic dongle that I use with my phone on my desk with HDMI, 3 USB-A ports and charging pass-through that will likely work just fine, cost 20 bucks.
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sigher posted:Docks aren't really expensive themselves, why would the Steam Deck one be much more expensive? I'm sure USB4 docks will be even more expensive for a while too.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:19
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You don't need a crazy-rear end high end dock for a device that's targeting a 720p performance profile.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:24
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I know docks can be cheap, I'm just going by how Nintendo's dock is $100 and Steam is going to have their own. I expect it to be $50 at least.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:24
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I would bet similarly, but they've said you can use any usb c dock.
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Sep 22, 2021 03:55
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$30 3rd party docks are better than Nintendo's, even with their initially, and possibly still, broken implementations of USB PD and HDMI over USB.
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sigher posted:It hasn't been that way for a long time unless you're running a really lovely HDD and processor. That is simply false. My PC is everything but slow, and its Windows installation only has Steam and TS installed and nothing else. The record was 1 1/2 hours spent updating because Windows broke something and rolled back, then rebooted and tried again. And at work we have a medium sized fleet of Windows PCs and jfc is it painful because Windows Update is brittle as hell.
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Gutcruncher posted:Branding and to make up for the hit theyre taking on the machine itself both sound likely. Does Valve even give a poo poo? I mean, really, how much money do they potentially look to make off of a dock considering their revenue streams? Fantastic Foreskin posted:I would bet similarly, but they've said you can use any usb c dock. I think this is why it's not going to be expensive, I don't see anyone buying Valve's dock when it doesn't do anything that any cheap-rear end dock you can get off Amazon would.
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I guess the main reason to buy a valve dock is because it would ostensibly let you stand up the deck and use its screen as a second display. A random USB dock would work, but probably just dangle off the end.
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Sep 22, 2021 13:23
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You get a dock to do silly/cool things like https://twitter.com/XPlaneOfficial/status/1440374955720409091?s=20
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Dramicus posted:I guess the main reason to buy a valve dock is because it would ostensibly let you stand up the deck and use its screen as a second display. A random USB dock would work, but probably just dangle off the end. just grab a generic phone/tablet stand, the usb-c connector is at the top anyway.
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Samopsa posted:just grab a generic phone/tablet stand, the usb-c connector is at the top anyway. Ah, I figured it was on the bottom like the switch. I guess it's going to dangle either way then.
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pseudorandom name posted:Proton is developed in plain sight, the Proton Experimental branch is exactly what you're going to get. Sure, but there’s still three months before release, assuming zero delays, which you can’t in this pandemic anyways.
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Valve has also said that they have code that has not been merged into Proton yet. Presumably some wayland weeaboo and anticheat stuff.
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Are the cheap docks usually capped at 1080p60? All I've got is the Genki Covert Dock which is, but that was made for the Switch... The Deck may not run modern games at native 4K, but 720p and 1080p look way better when integer scaled on the GPU/software side than letting your 4K display blur it up with bilinear upscaling.
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https://dev.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-online-services-launches-anti-cheat-support-for-linux-mac-and-steam-deck EasyAntiCheat now officially supports running in Wine/Proton, although each game developer needs to opt-in to allow it Your move BattlEye
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Valve tossed up a FAQ page for the Steam Deck: https://www.steamdeck.com/en/faq
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sigher posted:Valve tossed up a FAQ page for the Steam Deck: quote:What can you tell us about the BIOS and does it allow dual-boot?
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sigher posted:Valve tossed up a FAQ page for the Steam Deck: This entire page can be summarized as: Q: "Does the Steam Deck have this [necessary/cool/interesting] thing?" A: "Yes."
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repiv posted:https://dev.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-online-services-launches-anti-cheat-support-for-linux-mac-and-steam-deck https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/23/22690670/epic-eac-anti-cheat-linux-valve-steam-deck-support-games well, that was quick quote:However, BattlEye is coming to Steam Deck too: BattlEye CEO Bastian Suter tells The Verge his company’s software will be compatible with the Steam Deck, saying “the first game might start using it soon.” Still, it will be up to individual developers to enable support.
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Samopsa posted:https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/23/22690670/epic-eac-anti-cheat-linux-valve-steam-deck-support-games Hell yeah destiny 2 on the go CHECK
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