Dustcat posted:

Jazerus posted:

bane mask golem posted:

I think it's time that we talk about it, for sure OP. I really like fyad humor also even if I wasn't allowed to post there. It's sad that there isn't anywhere on the forum for that style of humor. Can I bounce the question back to fyad regulars? What would be required to make a forum "feel" like fyad, without the worst of the ironic bigotry that gets vice media to publish bald lies about it?

To me, the big obvious core things that make it fyad are:
- Silly stylesheet where the avatars say the posts
- Heavily curated for quality and, uhh, culture fit. Needs a fyad regular in charge.
- NWS allowed

The changes would have to be:
- Ironic bigotry gone. Fyad mod would have to be willing to see to this.
- Don't mine the threads for sharing personal experiences for goonlulz, even when they're funny

What do other people think?

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

like as far as I can tell people on this site are made mods either by happenstance or because they're hooked in to some back-slapping network of offsites. even when the admins ask for mod recommendations they seldom follow those recommendations e.g. the most recent d&d mod rec thread where they ended up promoting people no one asked for. homex was the last admin to actually take those nominations seriously but he was forced to quit

so if people are generally promoted to mod for any reason or no reason or a dumb reason, it seems fitting that they would eventually go back to regular posters for equally dumb reasons. yet somehow this only happens to good mods/IKs the community wants to keep around, like gradenko. but to get rid of a bad mod you have to form a loving mob in QCS

what I'm saying is the admins of this site are incompetent loving crybaby losers as well as just irritating on a personal level, and should be fired and frankly we'd probably be better off if the site was bought out by like the communist party of china

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

we'd probably be better off if the site was bought out by like the communist party of china

Alec Eiffel posted:

https://i.imgur.com/zWjM7iS.mp4

Kim Bong Chill posted:

bane mask golem posted:

smarxist posted:

they just banned Jeffrey's preferred currency

Kim Bong Chill posted:

A totally normal opinion by a cspam poster. Proving unequivocally that admins are doing the correct thing re: mods and admins

Alec Eiffel posted:

https://i.imgur.com/zWjM7iS.mp4

Lib and let die posted:

mods: "give us feedback, tell us what you want"

posters: "we want a more democratic process for mod selection, and we want a process to recall poo poo mods."

mods: "yes, these are good ideas that at least one of us has been thinking about. give us your thoughts."

posters: "get rid of crusty nutsack"

mods: "nope."

some plague rats posted:

They asked for feedback, they never promised they would listen to it

some plague rats posted:

???? what did it say??

Lib and let die posted:

mods: "give us feedback, tell us what you want"

posters: "we want a more democratic process for mod selection, and we want a process to recall poo poo mods."

mods: "yes, these are good ideas that at least one of us has been thinking about. give us your thoughts."

posters: "get rid of crusty nutsack"

mods: "nope."

swimsuit posted:

free larry / reinstate homex / ritually decapitate anyone that has more than 1 gang tag

Lib and let die posted:

mods: "give us feedback, tell us what you want"

posters: "we want a more democratic process for mod selection, and we want a process to recall poo poo mods."

mods: "yes, these are good ideas that at least one of us has been thinking about. give us your thoughts."

posters: "get rid of crusty nutsack"

mods: "nope."

TheSlutPit posted:

posters: also free Larry

mods: well actually we would like to do that but our hands are tied. it was in fact the decision of the forum admins

jeff: yes I made that decision unilaterally

posters: ok then why did three mods and an admin say it was the decision of the cspam mods when it was brought up in qcs, and also that their hands were similarly tied?

(silence)

Crusty Nutsack posted:

you got the history part right, but it was the opposite when I became the only cspam mod. I checked the gently caress out because I was angry that the admins demodded the only other two mods, leaving me to run it alone. I didn't sign up for that; I don't want to be the only arbiter of rules or punishments or anything else. just in sheer size it's impossible for one person to run effectively as a volunteer and also have a life. at the time that happened, my personal life was better than it had been in a long time, so I just told the admins I was mostly checked out because I had better things to do. I kept in touch with the iks (because they rock and deserve mod support), but pretty much stopped doing reports completely at that time lol so I can understand how any actions I took during that period were seen as hostile or parachuting in or something. I only dealt with things that were brought to my attention by users or admins, really.

now that there's more new mods I'm paying more attention and more engaged again, but thunderbeast, drey and vyelkin are the ones still doing the grunt work while I just try and help them navigate the mod forum bs, provide feedback, offer history about poo poo they might not remember or know from the mod side, etc. I am definitely aware that I can step down at any time, but I do care about cspam and hope that I can offer the new mods something useful.

Alec Eiffel posted:

https://i.imgur.com/zWjM7iS.mp4

Lib and let die posted:

mods: "give us feedback, tell us what you want"

posters: "we want a more democratic process for mod selection, and we want a process to recall poo poo mods."

mods: "yes, these are good ideas that at least one of us has been thinking about. give us your thoughts."

posters: "get rid of crusty nutsack"

mods: "nope."

bane mask golem posted:

Neither Lib and Let Die or gradenko_2000 will be made mods at this time.

The why of this has to do with our criteria for choosing mods. Despite it being desired by some posters, forums can not have a direct election or hand-picked choice of moderators. This is because no forum exists in a vacuum, it shares resources and discussions with mods from every forum. Sensitive discussions for every forum's topic take place in the explicit understanding that all mods and admins can be trusted to keep this information private. This extends to issues surrounding users as well. Some of it is very sensitive, and involves very personal information. As an example, we have had instances of real life sexual assault and harassment between goons where the victim wanted us to be aware of it, preferred if they did not have to continue posting with the perpetrator, but did not want to draw attention to themselves by having it made public, or at the very least having their involvement made public.

Mods need to be able to keep confidences, for both the mod team and other users who approach them with sensitive issues. For a mod to be chosen, an important criteria to satisfy is whether or not they are capable of doing so, and this is determined by the current mod and admin team. At this time we have misgivings about the ability of these proposed candidates to do so, both based on what we have seen on the live forums and what other users have communicated to us.

That said, your requests for moderators to be chosen from the CSPAM community are completely reasonable, and we'll make every effort to find trustworthy moderators from within the community who have CSPAM and Something Awful's best interests at heart. Asking Smythe if he would be interested in moving over from QCS to CSPAM was part of that - he's been a vocal advocate the forum even when not modding it. Having him approach your community directly on that front was in direct response to these requests.

I know that many will find this unsatisfactory. Please understand that when making these decisions we always error on the side of protecting those in our community who may need to take advantage of what confidentiality we can offer.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

congrats on forgetting to log into the jeffery account

Raskolnikov38 posted:

congrats on forgetting to log into the jeffery account

fr0id posted:

Like, a person I know telling me “hey man your use of that bothers me” is gonna do way more than an arbitrary authority telling me I got caught breaking the rule and get a probe would.