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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

If anything shouldn't they be enforcing FFP more harshly in this period? FFP basically penalizes a club for spending €X million more than their average earnings from the past three years, where X can be increased if you have a rich club owner.

Most clubs are gonna have poo poo earnings in these couple of years, and correspondingly they should be spending much less. If they're spending way more it would likely be due to wealthy benefactors. Now that would worsen inter-club financial inequalities.

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Sep 14, 2011

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And in Future News, Serie A has been bought by Saudi Arabia.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Vegetable posted:

If anything shouldn't they be enforcing FFP more harshly in this period? FFP basically penalizes a club for spending €X million more than their average earnings from the past three years, where X can be increased if you have a rich club owner.

Most clubs are gonna have poo poo earnings in these couple of years, and correspondingly they should be spending much less. If they're spending way more it would likely be due to wealthy benefactors. Now that would worsen inter-club financial inequalities.

But what if a big club, let's say a spanish one, needs to spend big right now but has had a massive dent in income from a year of no spectators?

It's almost as if FFP was never about financial fair play

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

Vegetable posted:

If anything shouldn't they be enforcing FFP more harshly in this period? FFP basically penalizes a club for spending €X million more than their average earnings from the past three years, where X can be increased if you have a rich club owner.

Most clubs are gonna have poo poo earnings in these couple of years, and correspondingly they should be spending much less. If they're spending way more it would likely be due to wealthy benefactors. Now that would worsen inter-club financial inequalities.
True, but pivoting to spending much less would imply that many top-flight clubs can rip up a contract at a moment's notice without paying it out, which...they can't.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Crazy Ted posted:

True, but pivoting to spending much less would imply that many top-flight clubs can rip up a contract at a moment's notice without paying it out, which...they can't.

So far they can't. This is how that article ends:

quote:

Traverso’s remarks follow statements by the president of the European Club Association, Andrea Agnelli of Juventus, in which he said clubs should have the ability to adjust player contracts in the event of a financial crisis such as Covid and called for regulations to look not at profit and loss but to focus “on the balance sheet and having those criteria met medium and long term”.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Clubs trying to adjust a player's contract without their union getting involved would be suicidal.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

Shrapnig posted:

Clubs trying to adjust a player's contract without their union getting involved would be suicidal.

you can only close down so many Fiat factories to pay Ronald's wages

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

vyelkin posted:

So far they can't. This is how that article ends:
Having fully non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure chaos, and unilaterally imposing non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure lunacy.

B.B. Rodriguez
Aug 8, 2005

Bender: "I was God once." God: "Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died."

Crazy Ted posted:

Having fully non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure chaos, and unilaterally imposing non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure lunacy.

It would be just like the NFL where contracts mean absolutely nothing and the only thing that matters is signing bonuses. Basically the entire sport would collapse in one transfer window.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Crazy Ted posted:

Having fully non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure chaos, and unilaterally imposing non-guaranteed contracts in the sport's biggest leagues would be pure lunacy.

On the one hand yes you're absolutely right, but on the other hand if we don't collapse the entire football contract and transfer system overnight Ronaldo's wages might bankrupt the country of Italy

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

vyelkin posted:

On the one hand yes you're absolutely right, but on the other hand if we don't collapse the entire football contract and transfer system overnight Ronaldo's wages might bankrupt the country of Italy

Wait, the rest of you aren't in a state of perpetual bankruptcy?

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Gigi Galli posted:

Wait, the rest of you aren't in a state of perpetual bankruptcy?

Only morally.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Shrapnig posted:

Only morally.
a real good post?

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

Gigi Galli posted:

Wait, the rest of you aren't in a state of perpetual bankruptcy?

give brexit time to work

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

B.B. Rodriguez posted:

It would be just like the NFL where contracts mean absolutely nothing and the only thing that matters is signing bonuses. Basically the entire sport would collapse in one transfer window.
Here's the thing: in the NFL on top of the signing bonuses a lot of players also have other partial guarantees on their contracts. What seemed to be suggested in that article is that aside from the signing bonus every player's contract would basically become as concrete as a Wikipedia article.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

SUPER LEAGUE

jeebus bob
Nov 4, 2004

Festina lente
SUPER LEAGUE

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



freeedr posted:

SUPER LEAGUE

I am hype for all of today's action! Overall pretty good knockout results yesterday, now it's time for the semifinals


whoops wrong thread I guess

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Corruption investigation over, 14 officials deemed corrupt, FIFA gets $200m reward…

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/24/us/fifa-corruption-case-award-intl/index.html

quote:

FIFA, CONCACAF, and CONMEBOL will distribute funds from the $201 million reward into a newly created World Football Remission Fund, which will be established under the FIFA Foundation "that is focused on youth programs, community outreach and humanitarian needs," DOJ said.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE
Incredible

The true victim of systemic corruption in FIFA is FIFA and the solution is to award FIFA money and declare that corruption is over and FIFA has a good reputation now

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
wow, simply stunning, a huge thank you to the us department of justice for disbursing the funds to those in need

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

Thank gently caress it’s finally been solved

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
This is loving poo poo. Also why FIFA supported the superleague


https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1433324294713528320?s=19
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1433338665518915585?s=19

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

New global league to overtake all others and end corruption will be the next goon project and it will be a rousing success

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

World Cup: John Terry & Michael Owen talking to Arsene Wenger about international calendar changes

is he trying to sabotage it

Myssu
Sep 19, 2012




FIFA wont be satisfied until theyre getting paid directly for every football match that gets played down as far as lunchtime kickabouts in school.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

Biden will drone strike FIFA and America will start something like The American Soccer Ball Kicking Association and the cup will be annual and in Cleveland

brocked
Oct 25, 2005

All shall love me and despair!

I know the biannual World cup is a terrible idea but no one deserves that

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
gently caress arsene wenger

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1443671167110467590?s=20
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1443672017589481477?s=20
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1443672746077171716?s=20
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1443673760306012165?s=20

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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Corrupt rear end Nigeria siding with FIFA to increase the chances of grift. Gotta love it

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



All my friends hate the biannual World Cup

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
2026 tá logo aí
Was it wengy who got salty about rory delap and suggested outright banning throw-ins?

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
this is wenger's revenge for losing his arsenal job

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
Good Wenger idea: making Tony Adams eat vegetables

Bad Wenger idea: world cup in October

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Biannual world cups are fine. Disrupting the club calendar to accommodate toasty countries also sound fine. People just have a lot of inertia about this kinda poo poo. World Cups are great.

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CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Vegetable posted:

Biannual world cups are fine. Disrupting the club calendar to accommodate toasty countries also sound fine. People just have a lot of inertia about this kinda poo poo. World Cups are great.

:getout:

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty

Vegetable posted:

Biannual world cups are fine. Disrupting the club calendar to accommodate toasty countries also sound fine. People just have a lot of inertia about this kinda poo poo. World Cups are great.

ban this filth

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

The ridiculous cost of building stadiums and infrastructure for each WC is awful on the host countries and so much of the economic burden is on the locals. The largest stadium built in Brazil became a goddamned parking lot.

If it bounced around a few countries that already have infrastructure then maybe it’s a slightly less terrible idea, but still A TERRIBLE IDEA. It only happening every 4 years is part of the appeal and diluting that is just baffling.

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012
We should get rid of all clubs and only have national teams that play in a world cup every three months.

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Reminder that platini is why Qatar got the world cup because even sepp Blatter knew it was too blatantly corrupt

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1443856725199761408?s=19

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