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I'm now at the Bryan Cranston episode of B5. It's good. edit: Well now I'm on season 4 episode 6. The shadow war is over? WTF are they going to do the rest of the season. Everyone just left. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Yeah it makes no sense and the network must have been making GBS threads themselves. Ain't it great?
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It's pretty drat good I'm excited to see what the rest of the season is going to be about.
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Hollismason posted:I'm now at the Bryan Cranston episode of B5. It's good. JMS: it’s a glorious 1.5 season finale. Network: you’ve got 44 minutes
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Hollismason posted:I don't see how its only 5 episodes into the season 4 and poo poo is already going sideways. I dunno what the rest of the season is going to be about. Hollismason posted:Well now I'm on season 4 episode 6. The shadow war is over? WTF are they going to do the rest of the season. Everyone just left. Hollismason posted:It's pretty drat good I'm excited to see what the rest of the season is going to be about. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Hollismason posted:Well now I'm on season 4 episode 6. The shadow war is over? WTF are they going to do the rest of the season. Everyone just left. loving lol Enjoy it.
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TraderStav posted:loving lol Yup. Strap the gently caress in.
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# ? Oct 2, 2021 02:48 |
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This poo poo moves fast I was not expecting Bester to turn up again.
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# ? Oct 2, 2021 03:00 |
Bester is so goddamn good. I really can’t think of someone who can have the same amount of menace, competence, and charm in one package while doing it so effortlessly.
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https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1444145302189928449
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Babylon 5, An Amazon Original coming our way in three years
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Decided to start a rewatch after this was announced and just got to "Signs and Portents" (aka Mr. Morden's introduction). So good.
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TK-42-1 posted:Bester is so goddamn good. I really can’t think of someone who can have the same amount of menace, competence, and charm in one package while doing it so effortlessly. The episode where goes to Babylon 5 just to gently caress with Lyta and Garibaldi pretty much sums him up. If he managed to make someone feel like poo poo, he had a good day.
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Buses in US don't get cleaned every morning?
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# ? Oct 2, 2021 11:23 |
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Lol you think anything public related has cash for basic maintenance let alone cleanliness in the US. If it can’t kill someone there ain’t no funds for it
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# ? Oct 2, 2021 11:26 |
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Considering where Season4 was originally going to end (before network pressure). I dont think the Shadow War was sped up by that much anyway..
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# ? Oct 2, 2021 11:54 |
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I'm at Season 4 Episode 11, I have no idea where this is going. My memory of the show from 25 years ago has faded. The only thing I remember is Sheridan gets captured and poisoned with a corned beef sandwich. Ivanova dies and Marcus uses some machine to bring her back. Garibaldi is a sleeper agent for the Psicorp I have no idea where this is headed. I mean its season 4 and episode 11 and things are heating up with the Earth v Babylon 5. Its good so far.
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DeafNote posted:Considering where Season4 was originally going to end (before network pressure). I dont think the Shadow War was sped up by that much anyway.. It wasn't. What JMS says is that Intersections in Real Time was the S4 finale and everything after that was compressed into 4, but originally would've been the first part of 5. Then it's pretty obvious when 5 gets back to its original outline.
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Hollismason posted:I don't see how its only 5 episodes into the season 4 and poo poo is already going sideways. I dunno what the rest of the season is going to be about. Have you ever read lord of the rings? Not watched the movie, read it? You get like halfway through Return of the King and the good guys have won and you look at how much you have to read (not counting the appendices) and go ….. huh???? Yeah.
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I'm at another episode of Season 4 Episode 14 and Bester has shown up again. Its seems he has shown up just to piss off Garibaldi and Lyta lol.
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Do you think Bester has anything better to do with his time? (No.)
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Doctor Zero posted:Have you ever read lord of the rings? Not watched the movie, read it? True of the movie too tbh
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I've made it to Season 4 Episode 18 Intersections in Real time. Goddamn. This show. Can't believe all that's happened. drat Bester is cold as ice. I can't remember if he gets his comeuppance or not. I hope so. edit: WTF I finished Season 4 , it was really good but what the loving christ was that last episode. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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Welcome to the last second replacement of the Series finale and welcome to the suddenly existing Season 5.
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Hollismason posted:WTF I finished Season 4 , it was really good but what the loving christ was that last episode. Sleeping in Light (the S5 finale) was originally the S4 finale, and Deconstruction was the first episode of S5 to be made when they got renewed.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Sleeping in Light (the S5 finale) was originally the S4 finale, and Deconstruction was the first episode of S5 to be made when they got renewed. i missed it the first time round, then i turned it off halfway through the second time round. it was real bad lol
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sleeping in light is one of the Great Episodes of Television, ending s4 on that would have actually been incredible. on balance s5 was def worthwhile though, with some stone classic eps. hold onto that thought as you watch it.
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sebmojo posted:i missed it the first time round, then i turned it off halfway through the second time round. it was real bad lol I quite like it, it's weird (even if it is very Great Man Theory)
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Please don’t leave the plastic gasoline canisters I asked for in public, it’s too hard to explain them away
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 11:55 |
Babylon 5 rewatch: The Fall of Centauri Prime is so good and effectively the good bye episode to Mollari, even though he'll keep on living for some years. I also love that one female centauri standing in the background trying to sweep up some of the rubble.Luigi Thirty posted:Please don’t leave the plastic gasoline canisters I asked for in public, it’s too hard to explain them away Alhazred fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I quite like it, it's weird (even if it is very Great Man Theory) it just seemed really cheap, because it certainly was. the idea was solid, execution lacking.
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Alhazred posted:
Agreed. Canticle is one of those novels that I read as a teen and which just burned itself pretty permanently into my brain - it’s one of the most affecting pieces of science fiction I’ve ever read. So seeing JMS’s little tribute in B5 made the rest of whatever that episode was worth it tbqh. (Well, that and Angry Old Delenn.)
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Delenn spending her last years heckling public debates.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I quite like it, it's weird (even if it is very Great Man Theory) I find this an odd reading given that the episode, and S5 generally, seem deliberately to be undermining the “Great Man Theory” of the previous seasons while also attacking the idea that individual people don’t make a difference, only broad trends in society. From Delenn insisting that John Sheridan “was a good man” (good is not Great), to the attempt to paint Sheridan as a fascist dictator as a pretense to start a war where virtual Garibaldi protects his reputation by starting the war himself, to the mythic packaging of Sheridan which serves as a cover for the gradual reintroduction of technology by the Rangers, to the end of the solar system, the repeated message is that B5 and its characters mattered and made a difference, but that the work of making things better is ongoing and undertaken by a lot of heroes who will be unsung. S5 shows us that Sheridan wasn’t especially great as President, and while we don’t see this much on screen, the implication is that Delenn does a much better job and Sheridan is a better fit to lead the Rangers. S5 is so on the nose about this it gives us Byron, a self-destructive cult leader who starts a deadly conflict between telepaths, who looks like a perfect fit for the “Great Man” model. He isn’t. He’s a critique of that, but one that doesn’t land as well as it should. It’s the Superman theory of human behavior, in the sense that living up to the ideal means trying to be better, and the “Great Man” is useful as the inspiration while inevitably being imperfect in reality. Really, that’s the Christ theory (or Buddha theory), repackaged by an atheist.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Sleeping in Light (the S5 finale) was originally the S4 finale, and Deconstruction was the first episode of S5 to be made when they got renewed. Right. Which is why Ivonova is in SiL but not Deconstruction.
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I'm on Season 5 Episode 2 now. First episode was pretty good. The Long Night of Londo Malari is really good though.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Agreed. Canticle is one of those novels that I read as a teen and which just burned itself pretty permanently into my brain - it’s one of the most affecting pieces of science fiction I’ve ever read. So seeing JMS’s little tribute in B5 made the rest of whatever that episode was worth it tbqh. If you want to make JMS extremely mad tell him that. He insists he never read Canticle and that bit of the episode is all original and in no way inspired/a tribute.
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Grand Fromage posted:If you want to make JMS extremely mad tell him that. He insists he never read Canticle and that bit of the episode is all original and in no way inspired/a tribute. Does he? His post on Usenet has a far more "whoops" tone to it than "I've never read that book." jms posted:Interesting aside...for the last 6-8 months, I've been doing a fair amount of research into medieval England, especially the medieval church, for a play I'm writing (which may become a novel if I'm not careful). Dumped several hundred dollars on a massive order from Amazon.com back a few months ago to fill out what I needed. That was what tangentially led me into the post-Burn sequence in "Deconstruction." My brain has been full of monks for the last 8 months or so, and knowing the role they played in maintaining secular knowledge from about 500 AD and for some time thereafter, that seemed the perfect route to go that would also resonate with the look of the Rangers and the religious caste Minbari and the whole feel we were setting up.
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I think it's a neat touch that even though they're not part of the plot of the episode you will sometimes see monks in the background.
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