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bobmarleysghost posted:i popped over to d&d's climate thread and laughed at that post. pretty deranged to be lauding BP as "doing something good" Incredible. This is a fun hashtag: https://twitter.com/GillBraulik/status/1255901375994748928?s=20 https://twitter.com/ProfTerryHughes/status/1374221756097986561?s=20 https://twitter.com/JezRoff/status/1445773010737131537?s=20 https://twitter.com/ProfTerryHughes/status/1362631963706675201?s=20 https://twitter.com/NashTurley/status/998209801636208640?s=20 https://twitter.com/Signe_Dalsgaard/status/1405146764865425413?s=20 https://twitter.com/70sBachchan/status/1195848334834954243?s=20 https://twitter.com/Seasaver/status/1399758307464728578?s=20 https://twitter.com/PescaWWF/status/1294560906668580864?s=20 https://twitter.com/PescaWWF/status/1294560927388504064?s=20 bowser has issued a correction as of 17:13 on Oct 6, 2021 |
# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:08 |
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bobmarleysghost posted:i popped over to d&d's climate thread and laughed at that post. pretty deranged to be lauding BP as "doing something good" I clicked through and wow it's even worse over there than I remember
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:11 |
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bobmarleysghost posted:i popped over to d&d's climate thread and laughed at that post. pretty deranged to be lauding BP as "doing something good" it's that raw cope that can never really be defeated if someone is dishonest enough to start out from the position that they have to believe it. They decided the answer they wanted before the specifics ever got involved BP says quote:Gas & low energy (G&LCE) integrates our existing natural gas capabilities with significant growth in low and zero carbon businesses and markets. We will: So if you ignore the undefined marketing speak they are claiming they will Invest in making 4% of the nations current energy requirements in renewable energy over the next decade Grow their portfolio of gas? 10% target market share in hydrogen "core markets" while they continue to pollute and make billions off of fossil fuels in amounts that make these mitigations even more worthless than if they were done by a company that was carbon neutral? This is just "doing something must be doing something" a raw and desperate flailing to believe the problem has a solution and someone is taking steps toward it
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:12 |
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bowser posted:Incredible. The dutch paintings here are one of many shifting baselines covered in The Once And Future Earth, which is an immensely depressing read
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:16 |
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The shark's doing good work
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:32 |
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here's an app you brokebrained doomers can use to fight climate change (which isn't even bad yet) https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1445766771944820750 quote:Good Empire (iOS, Android) is a new social app whose mission is “to gather, unite, and empower an empire of good humans to save the f**king world.” Good Empire features challenges that highlight direct actions individuals can take to help reduce their carbon emissions and plastic waste, address hunger and poverty in their communities and around the world, and empower women and girls. Actions must have measurable impacts and are aligned with the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goals. Good Empire just launched in September 2021.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 17:52 |
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If you live in the Pacific Northwest and you know what second growth forest looks like, it’s hard not to get super depressed as you walk around literally everywhere and see it. Second growth forest, of course, is the type of forest that grows after industrial logging activities has wiped out all the “Old Growth” forest (aka forest untouched by humans) that used to be there. It’s often homogenous, spindly, and pretty anemic from an ecological perspective. It’s also fun to encounter tourists and locals alike who marvel at the majesty and beauty of second growth forests, as they have no conception of what was there before. It feels like watching people marvel at the silvicultural equivalent of an overgrown cornfield in the Midwest. What’s even better is seeing car ads filmed in-and-around British Columbia where Jeeps vroom-vroom over a forest road that is clearly in the middle of a cutblock logged in the 1940s and making it out to be some rugged final frontier untamed landscape poo poo. Anyways, there is very little old growth forest left in the PNW and what is there is likely going to be clearcut or die off in the next century so lol I guess. If you are lucky enough to have the opportunity to see some of it without needing to fly on a commercial jet, I highly suggest you do so because it really is quite spectacular and sacred. sitchensis has issued a correction as of 18:07 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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The logging doesn't matter that much. There is zero logging where I live because there are no sawmills within financial distance, but the forest is dying anyway between the ever escalating droughts and the beetles and the lower growth rates and the fires. Might as well cut down the big old redwoods, they are going to burn in the next few years anyway.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:30 |
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Stevie Lee posted:here's an app you brokebrained doomers can use to fight climate change (which isn't even bad yet) hahahaha oh my god we're so loving dead
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:31 |
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Paradoxish posted:hahahaha oh my god we're so loving dead They only print that stuff to make me want to kill myself. Hang in there.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:45 |
Mayor Dave posted:The dutch paintings here are one of many shifting baselines covered in The Once And Future Earth, which is an immensely depressing read you can still see that today at places that welcome flipper bois
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Pryor on Fire posted:The logging doesn't matter that much. There is zero logging where I live because there are no sawmills within financial distance, but the forest is dying anyway between the ever escalating droughts and the beetles and the lower growth rates and the fires. I'm imagining how many emails my coworkers could print out with just a single redwood
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:48 |
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Stevie Lee posted:here's an app you brokebrained doomers can use to fight climate change (which isn't even bad yet) lets check out some of these apps https://www.earthhero.org/app/ quote:3. We support quick, simple, “easy” personal actions, as they may help shift the culture within a household or change a local community, but they also count in motivating people towards further action. https://goodempire.org/about/ - note this isn't a non-profit, but a startup founded by a wine delivery CEO quote:Millions, billions of people and organisations around the world know this, and care, and want to see change. https://brightly.eco/ - just an affiliate link system for green washed consumer products, also a startup not a non-profit quote:conscious consumers will find it even easier to discover sustainable products and eco-friendly lifestyle tips thanks to a recent $1 million investment into start-up company Brightly from investors. After experiencing substantial growth over the past year, Brightly has become the number one destination for millennial and Gen Z women who want to make a difference through informed purchase decisions. https://www.klima.com/ - offsets purchasing app! also a startup, quote:Klima was founded to create the biggest possible impact for the climate — collectively and individually. Here’s how that breaks down financially: the list of projects that Kilma includes as generating carbon offsets includes wood burning, recycling paper, and burning trash. https://ecologi.com/ - tree planting, also a for-profit company. all you need to see is just this one line: quote:Become climate positive for less than $2.75 per week yup, you can keep doing all the same stuff, just pay $3 and bam, climate change is solved! https://www.ecosia.org/ -also for profit, search engine that throws some revenue towards planting trees quote:By planting trees and offsetting its energy use with renewables, each search with Ecosia actually removes 1 kg of CO2 from the air, which makes Ecosia a carbon-negative search engine. Here’s the math: an average search generates around 0.005 € of revenue. It costs roughly 0.25 € to plant a tree, which means that Ecosia can plant one tree every 50 searches. On average, these trees will each remove 50 kg of CO2 during an expected 15 year lifetime. https://www.ecoanxious.ca/ - i believe the ruder posters itt would call this "cope central". affiliated with a consulting firm that works on making you a "climate leader" quote:Welcome friend. You're not alone. https://climateawakening.org/ - another conversation platform, this time funded by the advocacy group https://www.theclimatemobilization.org which does have both Michael Mann, Adam McKay and the heir to the Getty fortune on the board, so who knows.... quote:Let's break the silence. Trabisnikof has issued a correction as of 19:10 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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IAMKOREA posted:Well this post made me feel like poo poo, thanks
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:55 |
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Rectal Death Adept posted:when people talk about holding politicians accountable they should also list all of the times politicians have been held accountable in the past 20 years politicians only tend to be held accountable every century or so
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 18:56 |
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You can't hold politicians accountable because they're not accountable to you. Everyone doing lesser evil voting for decades now has made that only more true but it's always been the case. How in the world can someone hold Joe Biden accountable? How? Through what mechanism? Who? There are only three effective methods of accountability in human history that we know of: bullets, nooses, and guillotines.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:09 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:There are only three effective methods of accountability in human history that we know of: bullets, nooses, and guillotines. Ridiculous. Why limit ourselves? There's a whole world of constructive approaches out there, from incineration to defenestration.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:16 |
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Perry Mason Jar posted:There are only three effective methods of accountability in human history that we know of: bullets, nooses, and guillotines. thats not true at all Phalaris was roasted alive in a bronze bull Aristomachos of Argos was tortured to death Amastris was drowned by her own sons Crassis was fed molten gold Coes of Mytilene was stoned to death...
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:17 |
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Rutibex posted:thats not true at all In Prague there were windows!
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:21 |
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Rutibex posted:thats not true at all new edward gorey soundin lit
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:28 |
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RIP Syndrome posted:Logging on today with a sudden 30 new messages in the other thread. Oh boy, I'm saving those for last. C̸̵̡̘̙̫̦̈́͆̿̀͘̚͜O̸̵̠̝̼͍̼͐̈́̽͠͝͝M̴̵̢̼̦̘̙̿̾͌͊͐̈́͜E̴̴̢̡͓͙̻͔͐̈́̾̽̈́͠ J̸̵̪̞̠͕͚͑͆̓̽͘͜O̵̵̘̙͓͍̝̞͛̾͌͑̽̒I̸̵̡̼͕̻̟͒͒̔́͌̕N̴̴̢͇̙̫̫̪͆̈́̔͐̈́͘ Ú̵̵̢̢̫͉̻̒̽͋͜͝S̴̴̢̡̼̙̦͉̐͊́͒͊͑
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:42 |
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from bad threadVideoGameVet posted:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-deniers-shift-tactics-to-inactivism/ quote:Climate Deniers Shift Tactics to 'Inactivism' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:44 |
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like considering how insanely capitalistic and pro-market all politicians and power brokers are in the USA, it is a testament to how much markets suck at dealing with climate change that non-market solutions get discussed at all. like they just can't make the numbers work, no matter how hard they try. like the $3 a week saves the climate people undercut the $1,000 carbon tax people, who undercut the "tax breaks for big business" people, who undercut the $3 a week people. their individual greed keeps exposing the collective market failure.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:48 |
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Decades posted:Canadian Professor of climate science quits her job to rededicate herself to lmao: nothing like grinding out 14-16 hour days several weeks to untangle the source code of a hairy piece of legacy software and then have my boss start rambling about The Great Reset at lunch is hould email him this article and ask him how he's gonna explain to his teenage kids how we've hosed around for 50 years and now it's time for them to find out
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:49 |
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"To even begin to try and limit some of the damage, eventually we need to buckle down..." *cheers* "...And stop worrying about profit" *boos, hisses*
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:52 |
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sitchensis posted:It’s also fun to encounter tourists and locals alike who marvel at the majesty and beauty of second growth forests, as they have no conception of what was there before. It feels like watching people marvel at the silvicultural equivalent of an overgrown cornfield in the Midwest. What’s even better is seeing car ads filmed in-and-around British Columbia where Jeeps vroom-vroom over a forest road that is clearly in the middle of a cutblock logged in the 1940s and making it out to be some rugged final frontier untamed landscape poo poo. This is definitely true in Haida Gwaii. Really cool scenery but when you get off the boat and walk into the woods you'll find the huge spruce stumps from all the trees that were removed in WWII and shipped south to build airplanes. I've been doing some historical research looking at old photographs of the Fraser delta. Amazing how much forest was still left near the airport in the 1940s. At that point it was just a lot of scraggly second growth and leftovers from earlier logging but still. Tekne posted:im digging the seal pup in every painting who is obviously the fish market’s “pet” Haha, I missed that. My eyes just slid over her as part of the menu. I was at a research lab that had one of those. She'd show up at the dock any time gear was being loaded, just in case something tasty slipped through the scuppers. She also spent time testing the fish farm's defences and keeping the technicians on their toes. Pryor on Fire posted:The logging doesn't matter that much. There is zero logging where I live because there are no sawmills within financial distance, but the forest is dying anyway between the ever escalating droughts and the beetles and the lower growth rates and the fires. Working on it. Just the drought killed cedars though. They've only been growing since the initial logging in this area 100+ years ago. I'm leaving the stumps to help protect new growth from over-enthusiastic mowers. Who needs Icelandic sheep when you have John Deere tractors and Brush Hogs?
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:55 |
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a rube-goldberg machine of mental gymnastics to avoid admitting capitalism is responsible the climate crisis
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:57 |
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Personally I'm holding out for the app that connects and gives directions to users to their local oil pipeline and coal train railroad.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:58 |
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Homocow posted:a rube-goldberg machine of mental gymnastics to avoid admitting capitalism is responsible the climate crisis "But Communists also pollute"
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 19:58 |
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As I'm 100% certain that I would be banned for posting this elsewhere on SA, please see the following excerpt from Andreas Malm's How To Blow Up A Pipeline: Note that I am only providing this quote for the purpose of academic discussion and for no other reason: quote:Another few cases notwithstanding, the movement has by and large left property destruction an untried tactic. What if it became more than a one-off occurrence? What if hundreds or thousands followed in the footsteps of Reznicek and Montoya? On what grounds could that be cause for regret and condemnation? One might argue that it would open the dams of violence, or even ad lib terrorism. As for the former, Reznicek and Montoya hotly dispute that their actions fell into that category: ‘The oil being taken out of the ground and the machinery that does it and the infrastructure which supports it – this is violent’, Reznicek stated in an interview. ‘We never at all threatened human life. We’re acting in an effort to save human life, to save our planet, to save our resources. And nothing was ever done by Ruby or me outside of peaceful, deliberate and steady loving hands.’ In the Catholic Worker tradition, ennobled by the Berrigan brothers who used blood and napalm to destroy draft files during the Vietnam War and spoiled nuclear warheads during the late Cold War, righteous property destruction falls within the boundaries of non-violence.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:18 |
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it’s funny that the book has been discussed in the New York time, New Republic, Vox, etc but the same insane people who claim BP is helping save the climate are going to try and ban discussion of that book.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:26 |
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Trabisnikof posted:it’s funny that the book has been discussed in the New York time, New Republic, Vox, etc but the same insane people who claim BP is helping save the climate are going to try and ban discussion of that book. Hopefully the events of today are causing the remaining thread regulars to pause and reflect on the circumstances behind my D&D ban in a new light, LOL.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:33 |
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RIP Syndrome posted:The shark's doing good work Came here to compliment it, well done
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:46 |
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guys can someone just tell me which app i can put on my phone to solve this climate change thing already
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:58 |
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Rime posted:Hopefully the events of today are causing the remaining thread regulars to pause and reflect on the circumstances behind my D&D ban in a new light, LOL. What's happening today?
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 21:01 |
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Hubbert posted:guys can someone just tell me which app i can put on my phone to solve this climate change thing already It's called Awful.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 21:02 |
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solving climate change is as easy as telling yourself you are solving climate change and convincing yourself it's true and possible so no apps are necessary
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 21:02 |
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Hubbert posted:guys can someone just tell me which app i can put on my phone to solve this climate change thing already well based on the list, looks like ecologi is the cheapest, starting at $10.50 a month! https://ecologi.com/ and you help employ people in the 3rd world planting trees!
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Trabisnikof posted:well based on the list, looks like ecologi is the cheapest, starting at $10.50 a month! Grifters are going to make so much money on ignorantly hopefull rubes with this poo poo.
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 21:09 |