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Feels Villeneuve posted:yeah my two main complaints are that the music isn't memorable (though Idk if this is controversial but I've never seen Metroid as a series particularly great for its music), and that while the environments are beautiful it doesn't have the sense of progression that Super Metroid had where Lower Norfair is clearly an end game area and has that total end-boss atmosphere to it Dread leans too far into the ambience side of music and not enough into the melody side which is what hurts its soundtrack overall, but Metroid as a whole has some absolute godlike melodies, and at times perfectly mixes ambience and melody together, Phendrana drifts being the obvious example.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:yeah my two main complaints are that the music isn't memorable (though Idk if this is controversial but I've never seen Metroid as a series particularly great for its music), and that while the environments are beautiful it doesn't have the sense of progression that Super Metroid had where Lower Norfair is clearly an end game area and has that total end-boss atmosphere to it i think it's pretty telling that most of Dread's catchier jingles are from super metroid now that i think on it most of the series music i remember is from SM. that could be childhood imprinting but come on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLcyg4Tq5uY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoHm2BZeWbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZwmwC9KkEQ
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Oct 10, 2021 15:21
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The Prime series soundtracks were consistently great, Super Metroid too. Can't say anything from Fusion or Zero Mission really leaps out though
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Oct 10, 2021 15:22
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yeah i'm mainly talking 2D, I skipped out on the entire Gamecube and didn't get the Wii versions when I had the chance (which is a pity because the Wii doesn't seem bad for that kind of game)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:yeah my two main complaints are that the music isn't memorable (though Idk if this is controversial but I've never seen Metroid as a series particularly great for its music), and that while the environments are beautiful it doesn't have the sense of progression that Super Metroid had where Lower Norfair is clearly an end game area and has that total end-boss atmosphere to it Yeah, honestly outside of Prime 1 and 2 I've never really cared to much about the music in a Metroid game
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Oct 10, 2021 15:26
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Oct 10, 2021 15:28
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multijoe posted:The Prime series soundtracks were consistently great, Super Metroid too. Can't say anything from Fusion or Zero Mission really leaps out though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_DiwhVbTmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGv2Ua74Ils https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYf5IKzXFG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgdlCSh6Eo4
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Oct 10, 2021 15:32
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queeb posted:heres the beginning of prime so far, scaled up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2X6JH4riIY
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Oct 10, 2021 15:33
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multijoe posted:The Prime series soundtracks were consistently great, Super Metroid too. Can't say anything from Fusion or Zero Mission really leaps out though Prime's main theme is an absolute banger. Probably the best track in the whole series.
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Oct 10, 2021 15:33
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queeb posted:heres the beginning of prime so far, scaled up I almost wouldn't want an HD remake with new assets, even just with upscaled resolution and AA the visuals stand up so well why mess with perfection?
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Oct 10, 2021 15:41
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queeb posted:heres the beginning of prime so far, scaled up If you don't mind playing the original GC version, the MP1 randomizer is great fun. It has an option to just   make you morph ball sized.
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Oct 10, 2021 15:45
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Clicking the thread with my eyes closed because I don't want to see any spoilers but I do want to say that Dread loving owns
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Oct 10, 2021 15:48
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Got morph ball gently caress yeah
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I can't say I agree with the notion that the Metroid series isn't known for having great music. Maybe not every track is memorable (which makes sense, a lot of it is ambient music), but all of the games have at least a couple of strong tracks. Even Metroid II has its fair share of bops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCIH943auRA
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Oct 10, 2021 15:55
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Game owns, just got to the third area and was really enjoying it until I failed the "fumble my Nintendo switch and fail to stop it from falling into the shitter" quicktime event RIP little buddy
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Glad I wasn't the only person underwhelmed by the music. There's a cutscene where you hear the lower brinstar motif and it made me excited that it might actually get used as area music just like how Prime 2 remixed it in Torvus.
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Oct 10, 2021 16:02
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I'm not too bothered about the game stopping you backtracking so often - it's nice that you can't really get lost. But it does rob you of that feeling you get when you unlock an ability and remember all the places you've passed that you can go back and use it. "Holy poo poo I finally got the morph ball! Now I can finally go back to the first area and get through all those gaps... Nope looks like I won't be going back anytime soon.  "
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Oct 10, 2021 16:09
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The small area where you find the x parasites did have some excellent music, tbf
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Oct 10, 2021 16:10
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stev posted:I'm not too bothered about the game stopping you backtracking so often - it's nice that you can't really get lost. But it does rob you of that feeling you get when you unlock an ability and remember all the places you've passed that you can go back and use it. there are definitely points where you can go back and clean up a bit, but you can kind of "miss" them and be stuck until you find another teleporter or something similar. I kind of wish ADAM would have said something like "you can mop up a bit now if you wish" to make this a bit more clear
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Oct 10, 2021 16:12
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The small area where you find the x parasites did have some excellent music, tbf and the counterpoint, the final boss had a track that I honestly don't know if it was bugged and playing BGM overlaid on "the fight has it an important point, increase the background music!" stuff but it was bad enough that I was noticing it being bad during the fight which is honestly retroactively impressive tbh
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Oct 10, 2021 16:15
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i probably have not been paying enough attention, but is some of the musical fanfare missing? I picked up a powerup and didn't get the usual metroid sounds. maybe they only happen with chozo items? i noticed the doors still make that wonderful bloop sound when closing, and the startup fanfare is there from what i recall.
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Oct 10, 2021 16:16
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I am completely stumped by the energy tank at the top of Artaria, the one trapped by speed boost blocks in the ceiling behind a shutter and two bomb blocks. Unless there's a way to stop a shinespark and keep the charge (which seems unlikely), there isn't enough speed to build up before the tunnel with the bomb blocks, so you have to do it from the other room. So blowing up the bomb blocks first isn't an option, since they'll have respawned by the time you leave and come back. You have to save the shinespark for the tunnel, but by the time you blow up both bomb blocks, there's nowhere near enough time to unmorph, flash step through the shutter and then shinespark up. So what the hell do you do?
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Samus. My analysis indicates that you are a weakling. A total scrub. A prancing frou-frou wussy wuss. Continue pursuit of your objective. Scrub.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I am completely stumped by the energy tank at the top of Artaria, the one trapped by speed boost blocks in the ceiling behind a shutter and two bomb blocks. Unless there's a way to stop a shinespark and keep the charge (which seems unlikely), there isn't enough speed to build up before the tunnel with the bomb blocks, so you have to do it from the other room. So blowing up the bomb blocks first isn't an option, since they'll have respawned by the time you leave and come back. You have to save the shinespark for the tunnel, but by the time you blow up both bomb blocks, there's nowhere near enough time to unmorph, flash step through the shutter and then shinespark up. So what the hell do you do? Go past the shutter, then run right to build up a spark, you have exactly enough space to build a charge. It'll last long enough for the shutter to raise, then flash over and spark up.
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Ok I beat the game my first time at about 6 hours and then again with 100% item completion just now. Gotta ask one question (major endgame spoilers): Since it isn’t explicitly pointed out, are we supposed to assume that the computer navigator was actually Raven Beak the whole time and not computer Adam? Or was that just a trick he tried to pull on her right before the final battle?
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ok I beat the game my first time at about 6 hours and then again with 100% item completion just now. Gotta ask one question (major endgame spoilers): the computer starts calling you "Samus" instead of "Lady" right after you wake up
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ok I beat the game my first time at about 6 hours and then again with 100% item completion just now. Gotta ask one question (major endgame spoilers): It's Adam while you're on the ship and then Raven Beak the whole rest of the time. Uploading data to the computers never actually connected Samus back to the ship, Raven Beak was intercepting everything.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ok I beat the game my first time at about 6 hours and then again with 100% item completion just now. Gotta ask one question (major endgame spoilers): you didn’t think something was up when Adam started saying poo poo like “Samus even though you are almost at full power you stand no chance against Raven Beak, he is just too strong and bad rear end and cool and did you know he has a massive dick and also….”
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the computer starts calling you "Samus" instead of "Lady" right after you wake up Orange Crush Rush posted:you didn’t think something was up when Adam started saying poo poo like “Samus even though you are almost at full power you stand no chance against Raven Beak, he is just too strong and bad rear end and cool and did you know he has a massive dick and also….” Okay I thought so. Just wasn’t 100% sure. Edit: has anyone figured out if there are different endings depending on your time/item %/Difficulty? After my first time beating it I got two of the ending gallery pics, when I beat it with 100% just now I unlocked a special picture of Samus with a bunch of characters/enemies from the whole series in the regular gallery, along with the rest of the pics. Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Orange Crush Rush posted:you didn’t think something was up when Adam started saying poo poo like “Samus even though you are almost at full power you stand no chance against Raven Beak, he is just too strong and bad rear end and cool and did you know he has a massive dick and also….” (end of game) i wish raven beak was a cooler dad and ADAM would say stuff like how you should really come home for thanksgiving and to give him a call on the weekends or something
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Orange Crush Rush posted:you didn’t think something was up when Adam started saying poo poo like “Samus even though you are almost at full power you stand no chance against Raven Beak, he is just too strong and bad rear end and cool and did you know he has a massive dick and also….” It's pretty funny to read on a second playthrough knowing that you're talking to an imposter and looking back over just how egotistical he was.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Ok I beat the game my first time at about 6 hours and then again with 100% item completion just now. Gotta ask one question (major endgame spoilers): 
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Orange Crush Rush posted:you didn’t think something was up when Adam started saying poo poo like “Samus even though you are almost at full power you stand no chance against Raven Beak, he is just too strong and bad rear end and cool and did you know he has a massive dick and also….” i mean that was adam's shtick in fusion talking about the SA-X too so it barely seemed out of place
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The shinespark puzzle in the secret area in Burenia is one of the most unintuitive things I've ever encountered in a Metroid game. It was really hard to find, too.
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Oxxidation posted:Samus. My analysis indicates that you are a weakling. A total scrub. A prancing frou-frou wussy wuss. Continue pursuit of your objective. Scrub. What’s weird is this is like all he ever says. I’m like 3/4s through the game and he doesn’t really accomplish anything? Like not even hints if you get stuck
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 All too real!Also goddamn the devs made this game punishing unless you achieve pretty near perfect play on some bosses. There isn't much buffer IMO. I just got the gravity suit and all excited, less damage then run into a boss that basically chunks you in 6-8ish hits if you gently caress up. I don't remember many bosses from before in the series smashing you this hard and basically causing you having to repeat until nearly flawless. This was that chozo thing with spears that learned to now puke black stuff on you. So that takes out a ton and if you get hit that also removes a ton. Even coming from being a Souls veteran and worshipping it this feels very much so like a "git gud scrub" game.
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CharlestheHammer posted:What’s weird is this is like all he ever says. I’m like 3/4s through the game and he doesn’t really accomplish anything? Like not even hints if you get stuck I was amazed that he didn't comment at all on Kraid.
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