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Justin_Brett posted:Anyone gotten past the Speed Boost block in Burenia in the rooms with the sloping platforms? No idea what they want from me here. right above the section is a small dead-end room behind a door. if you shoot the door and start all the way to the right the stretch is just long enough to store a shinespark. you then carry it down through the other door, shoot the blocks, and then shinespark the first slope to get your boost going again, slide through the gap and then store another shinespark, drop down and shinespark the second slope, store it again, drop down to where the blocks are, and finally shinespark through them
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:18 |
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# ? Jun 4, 2024 00:02 |
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Lol I'm glad I turned around after getting the wide beam to check out the door in the last EMMI zone since they don't set you back for trying at all. Doing so finally got me the morph ball, and also learned that hitting the chin of an EMMI doesn't count as the head, apparently, so aim high Actually, it seems like every single room checkpoints if you die, if dicking around with these turrets is any indication, which makes how much damage things do even weirder
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:21 |
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:This is wrong. Meroid, Metroid II, SM and Primes didn't do this to the extent that it's impossible to backtrack, fine, but the backtracking didn't do anything other than add tedium/exploration. Oft you had to come through with all the upgrades anyway just to get the last scans/items. Fusion setting the precedent where you are locked out of areas entirely during parts of the story gave it a tighter focus imo.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:21 |
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:This is wrong. How do you get out of Norfair without the Ice Beam or gratuitous use of Bomb Jumping/Single Wall Jumping? And even then, wouldn't you just get stopped by that one way gate in Brinstar without the Speed Booster? Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Oct 11, 2021 |
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Augus posted:right above the section is a small dead-end room behind a door. if you shoot the door and start all the way to the right the stretch is just long enough to store a shinespark. you then carry it down through the other door, shoot the blocks, and then shinespark the first slope to get your boost going again, slide through the gap and then store another shinespark, drop down and shinespark the second slope, store it again, drop down to where the blocks are, and finally shinespark through them Dang, I was trying that thinking it couldn't be intended. Thanks though.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:23 |
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there's a lot of stupid poo poo you can do that's absolutely intended, these devs get metroid
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:27 |
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Okay, I'm now up to 5 power bomb upgrades and no power bomb. Getting ridiculous. Also, I did a crazy shinespark chain in Burenia and managed to stumble into the Gravity Suit. Lol, time to backtrack and find out how I was supposed to get here.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:30 |
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Dangit, missing one item in Ferenia. Got 2 power bombs, 2 missile+, 3 Energy Parts, and 6 missile tanks. Nothing obvious on the map, no glowing sections or paths to explore or what. Might have to go scanning every room. Edit: found it, the shining was blocked by a charge station icon. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Oct 11, 2021 |
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Bruceski posted:Dangit, missing one item in Ferenia. Got 2 power bombs, 2 missile+, 3 Energy Parts, and 6 missile tanks. Nothing obvious on the map, no glowing sections or paths to explore or what. Might have to go scanning every room. when all else fails, power bomb spamming previals
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:35 |
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got 100% items! some of the shinespark puzzles were a huge pain in the rear end but at the same time I kinda wish there were more of them?? or maybe i just want to play celeste again. anyways, now time to kill the final boss even if his Winged Phase is incredibly rude
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:49 |
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Shinespark puzzle DLC would be great. Or heck, a standalone game. Very strange that in the decade since Fusion and Zero Mission nobody's done one yet.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:54 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:The worst part is after getting the storm missiles when you have to fight two of the fuckers at the same time. I spent a good half hour trying to do that goddamn fight. Doesn't help when you have like half a second to determine if they're going to do the melee attack you can counter, or the supercharged one that'll shred your health bar. The melee attacks are different colors, but with those guys you're much better off just jumping over all the melee attacks are just pumping missiles (storm missiles when possible) into them.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:55 |
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raditts posted:The melee attacks are different colors, but with those guys you're much better off just jumping over all the melee attacks are just pumping missiles (storm missiles when possible) into them. agreed, they seem to give you one counter-able melee attack at the start and then overwhelmingly favor the red melee for the rest of the fight. trying to counter-bait against them will get you mulched
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 02:57 |
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https://twitter.com/glaedrax/status/1447157633605984260 Friendly heads up that this game is way less linear than you think. Remember: We all thought Zero Mission was linear on release!
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:03 |
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tbh i think the doubles straight up have a weakness to the storm missiles because the 2 fights i've had against them have been a relative breeze just by jumping and blinking past their attacks and then dumping the storms into em
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:07 |
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Kirios posted:https://twitter.com/glaedrax/status/1447157633605984260 I got the supers before the octopus boss and when i was fighting it there was real big whiplash when the cutscene kicked in and the boss looked almost completely different in the cutscene than the one I was fighting
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:11 |
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I either got to Kraid wait too early or I just suck. I only have two e tanks. I get to the third wave once, get knocked back to the second, and then promptly die. Maybe I missed something.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:16 |
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I dunno if this is the best Metroid, but it's certainly up there. Prrrooooobably the best final boss, at least?
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:18 |
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Got all the items from E, F, G and H, I need to figure out how to air shinesparks out of a spin jump reliably for the nest one I'm after in D.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:22 |
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Kirios posted:Friendly heads up that this game is way less linear than you think. Remember: We all thought Zero Mission was linear on release!
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:25 |
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I either got to Kraid wait too early or I just suck. I only have two e tanks. I get to the third wave once, get knocked back to the second, and then promptly die. Focus on dodging and farming up health instead of dealing damage for awhile.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:26 |
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Bruceski posted:Got all the items from E, F, G and H ...oh god drat it I didn't even notice that. I really should have, considering Strange Journey is one of my favorite games and they did it there too.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:26 |
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I either got to Kraid wait too early or I just suck. I only have two e tanks. I get to the third wave once, get knocked back to the second, and then promptly die. The trick for me was realizing the belly shots knocking the spider wall down is a mercy transition, not the best method. Use charge beam to kill the bouncers, dodge the goo, and wait for the spines to climb up there like in other games. They go fast so it takes some practice, but killing the bouncers and with a focus on dodging you've got time.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:31 |
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How do you do the “sonic spin”?
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:33 |
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Calidus posted:How do you do the “sonic spin”? You mean the ballspark? Just get a speed booster charge, morph into a ball, hit jump, and then hold the direction you want to go.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:34 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:...oh god drat it I didn't even notice that. I didn't notice it until I decided to backtrack for items and scrolled over the zones in rapid succession.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:36 |
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The game has a ton of sequence breaks, most of which are intentional although a couple require an outright glitch. For example you can get early super missiles as soon as you have speedbooster, this is intentional. You can get early grapple beam and bombs before Kraid, or just early grapple after Kraid. You can use a glitch to skip the boss in Bhurenia, you can get Cross Bombs long before you have screw attack or space jump, you can get Gravity Suit before you ever set foot in Ferenia, which leads to getting Screw Attack early which the Storm Missile boss is actually weak against. In fact, there's never a point in time you're required to get Space Jump at all, you can make do with wall jumps, shinesparks, and infinite bomb jumps.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:37 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:...oh god drat it I didn't even notice that. Another nice little touch is you look at the event log, the EMMI designations are a clue to what powerup they give you. The second, EMMI-02SM drops the spider magnet for example. Don't know what the first would stand for though, its designation is -01P.
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SettingSun posted:Another nice little touch is you look at the event log, the EMMI designations are a clue to what powerup they give you. The second, EMMI-02SM drops the spider magnet for example. Don't know what the first would stand for though, its designation is -01P. the P stands for putz
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:42 |
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DelphiAegis posted:Meroid, Metroid II, SM and Primes didn't do this to the extent that it's impossible to backtrack, fine, but the backtracking didn't do anything other than add tedium/exploration. Oft you had to come through with all the upgrades anyway just to get the last scans/items. In SM you could get incremental upgrades, but not clear the entire area after getting powerups. For example before you got the gravity suit you could go down to the area in Brinstar below the charge beam and get a missile tank, but not the energy tank. However you were free to come back to that area anytime you wanted to after getting power bombs and get those missiles. You weren't locked from going there directly after getting power bombs if you wanted. In fact very near that area there were several powerbomb passages including a short-cut to Crateria and many extra items (reserve tanks, e-tanks, super-missiles, and more power bombs) that you had access to even without the gravity suit. Basically improving yourself before you fought Phantoon. Did you have to do that? No, were you expected to do it? No. But the point is you could, and doing so made Phantoon easier and rewarded the player for exploring. IIRC you could get 6 e-tanks and 2 reserve ranks before fighting phantoon, without doing advanced movement techniques (infinite bomb jumping, one-wall infinite wall-jumping, no-gravity under-water fuckery etc) all before the gravity suit. You could also get 15? super missiles, and like 55 missiles and 3 e-tanks plus 1 reserve tank pre-kraid if you wanted to. Even though Kraid was expecting you to fight him with only 2 etanks and 5 super missiles. Orange Crush Rush posted:How do you get out of Norfair without the Ice Beam or gratuitous use of Bomb Jumping/Single Wall Jumping? And even then, wouldn't you just get stopped by that one way gate in Brinstar without the Speed Booster? Kirios posted:
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:52 |
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Bruceski posted:Got all the items from E, F, G and H, I need to figure out how to air shinesparks out of a spin jump reliably for the nest one I'm after in D.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:54 |
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If anyone has two hours to kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtwuZ91Yx7c
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:56 |
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MrTheDevious posted:I think this is the first time I've ever ragequit a game based on an event that happens 3 minutes in. Whoever the chucklefuck is who decided to turn Metroid into some lovely 1991 Dragon's Lair QTE with instant game-over can eat my balls and I'm glad this leaked before I paid for it lol
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:59 |
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:You can Mock Ball to get the Ice Beam, but yea I may be misremembering what you need to get back to your ship after you go through that one-way gate in brinstar. For that particular section, you're locked behind the lock and also a giant shaft. To get out, you need to get High Jump, beat Kraid for Varia Suit, find Speed Booster, find Ice Beam, then you can climb out of the shaft and further, collecting Power Bombs along the way, which spits you back out on Crateria, so you can get lost. The next goal is actually back down to Norfair though to get Grapple Beam + Wave Beam, but the game sort of lets you try out your new powers in familiar areas until then.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 03:59 |
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Wasn't too bad too 100%. Just 2-3 really annoying shin spark puzzles. Heads up. You can one shot the chozo twin fight with a powerbomb.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 04:07 |
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samus is the greatest nintendo character and i wish her luck in her quest to destroy her enemies in the most brutal ways possible
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 04:07 |
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TaurusOxford posted:You mean the ballspark? Just get a speed booster charge, morph into a ball, hit jump, and then hold the direction you want to go. Ah I kept pressing directions before jump.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 04:11 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Lol I'm glad I turned around after getting the wide beam to check out the door in the last EMMI zone since they don't set you back for trying at all. Doing so finally got me the morph ball, and also learned that hitting the chin of an EMMI doesn't count as the head, apparently, so aim high how the gently caress did you get all the way to the wide beam without the morph ball
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 04:13 |
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site posted:how the gently caress did you get all the way to the wide beam without the morph ball I walked lol Idk I went left out of the transport in that area then just kept redirecting the vents lol. Afaict I needed the wide beam to break the door to the central unit RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Oct 11, 2021 |
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Going through the previous areas to get as many Any Shinespark puzzle tips in general? Like, is there an item I am missing that makes speed boost charge faster or shinespark charges to last longer?
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 04:42 |