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spacemang_spliff posted:mf runs through a brick I was like “meh I’ve seen this all before” until the sledgehammers came out. lol whoa
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Oct 13, 2021 20:17
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spacemang_spliff posted:mf runs through a brick lmao this type of poo poo is so hilariously dumb
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Oct 13, 2021 20:20
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Until they can prove that they're tougher than a bullet none of it means poo poo
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Oct 13, 2021 20:22
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30.5 Days posted:How do you square this opinion with the knowledge that the incarceration rate of uyghurs in xinjiang is lower than the incarceration rate of black people in america? Your position here seems to be that, ok, sure, it turns out all the stuff about forced abortion and murders and slavery and eliminating islam from public life turned out to be false, but there's still a police state in xinjiang! And, sure, but according to neutral third party estimates it is less intense than the one we have here in america. That's why those insane obviously-false accusations existed in the first place. If you boil the accusations down to stuff that you can make apples-to-apples comparisons on, america is way worse. Xinjiang alone accounts for over 20% of all arrests in China despite containing about 1.5% of the population. The chinese government abruptly stopped publishing annual arrest figures in 2017, the same year there was a 731% increase in arrests in Xinjiang. Ironically, the arrest figures were still able to be calculated due to the fact that they still publish the region's bulk arrest totals from 2013-2017, and by subtracting the arrest figures for all previous years. https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/criminal-arrests-in-xinjiang-account-for-21-of-chinas-total-in-2017/ The Chinese government of course deleted the reports cited, but you can still verify their numbers for yourself by pulling up archives.
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Oct 13, 2021 20:51
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Boxer Rebellion style training
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Oct 13, 2021 21:04
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Judakel posted:do you enjoy extreme martial arts performances? should have started breaking light tubes over these dudes
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Oct 13, 2021 21:04
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spacemang_spliff posted:mf runs through a brick The 2nd shot of Kim at :37 has veep "what the gently caress" energy
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Oct 13, 2021 21:24
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That's honestly less brutal than most military hazing rituals
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Oct 13, 2021 21:24
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Judakel posted:do you enjoy extreme martial arts performances? kim jong un watching with glee and clapping as a cartoon wolf cuts a rope sending a ten ton anvil plummeting towards a troop's genitals
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Oct 13, 2021 21:35
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Maximo Roboto posted:Oh so all of those artificial islands are suddenly not worth building anymore Sweden and Finland were about as "neutral" as Florida during the cold war btw.
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Oct 13, 2021 21:50
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Hedenius posted:Sweden and Finland were about as "neutral" as Florida during the cold war btw. Finland was Finlandized by the Soviet Union, which would be a good analogy to the best that Taiwan could hope for if it was to get de jure sovereignty under intense PRC influence. Sweden's neutrality predates the Cold War, seems more along the lines of Swiss neutrality? And Austria was the main example I was thinking of anyway
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Oct 13, 2021 21:59
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je1 healthcare posted:Xinjiang alone accounts for over 20% of all arrests in China despite containing about 1.5% of the population. The chinese government abruptly stopped publishing annual arrest figures in 2017, the same year there was a 731% increase in arrests in Xinjiang. Ironically, the arrest figures were still able to be calculated due to the fact that they still publish the region's bulk arrest totals from 2013-2017, and by subtracting the arrest figures for all previous years. Would it make you question those statistics if I told you that the "Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders" is 100% nothing but CIA propaganda?
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Oct 13, 2021 22:09
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Maximo Roboto posted:Sweden's neutrality predates the Cold War, seems more along the lines of Swiss neutrality?
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Oct 13, 2021 22:15
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despite being only 1.5% of the population,
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Oct 13, 2021 22:17
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Oct 13, 2021 22:23
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Hedenius posted:Would it make you question those statistics if I told you that the "Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders" is 100% nothing but CIA propaganda? Yes, did you miss the part where their figures come entirely from the CCP's own public reports, and how you can verify them for yourself?
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Oct 13, 2021 22:44
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My god, the north koreans have access to stuntmen. We cannot permit a movie magic gap,
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Oct 13, 2021 22:51
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je1 healthcare posted:Xinjiang alone accounts for over 20% of all arrests in China despite containing about 1.5% of the population. The chinese government abruptly stopped publishing annual arrest figures in 2017, the same year there was a 731% increase in arrests in Xinjiang. Ironically, the arrest figures were still able to be calculated due to the fact that they still publish the region's bulk arrest totals from 2013-2017, and by subtracting the arrest figures for all previous years. This is a great source, thank you for providing it. It indicates that in 2017 there were 227k arrests in xinjiang, which has a population of 25,852,345. In 2017 there were 226k arrests in New York City (https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/crimnet/ojsa/arrests/nyc.pdf) which has a population of 8.419m. This seems to indicate that in the year 2017 there were about 3x as many arrests per capita in NYC as in xinjiang, which backs up the post you are quoting. Thank you for providing the numbers.
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Oct 13, 2021 22:55
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 Nice whataboutism bro
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Oct 13, 2021 23:01
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30.5 Days posted:This is a great source, thank you for providing it. It indicates that in 2017 there were 227k arrests in xinjiang, which has a population of 25,852,345. In 2017 there were 226k arrests in New York City (https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/crimnet/ojsa/arrests/nyc.pdf) which has a population of 8.419m. China has a long way to go before all the crime is eliminated. Have they considered stop and frisk?
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Oct 13, 2021 23:22
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one look at the officer in the back of the bus and I knew that the tour guide would be unable to provide honest answers under the authoritarian threat of seppuku (chinese murder). Sighing, I returned to my seat after a futile attempt to get the tour guide to recite the death toll of Tiannemen Square backwards; my hopes for a fruitful tibetan vacation continued to dwindle.
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Oct 13, 2021 23:25
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je1 healthcare posted:Yes, did you miss the part where their figures come entirely from the CCP's own public reports, and how you can verify them for yourself? Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks
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Oct 14, 2021 00:11
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Maximo Roboto posted:Wait a second, this discussion is absolutely mad. Why would the U.S. try to launch attacks on the Chinese mainland in the event of war? The U.S. isn't even willing to bomb Iran, you think they would really try to invade China? How does that make any logistical sense? It would be like Japan thinking they could conquer the continental U.S. during WWII.
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Oct 14, 2021 00:11
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je1 healthcare posted:Xinjiang alone accounts for over 20% of all arrests in China despite containing about 1.5% of the population. Goddamn dude this is like a half-step away from citing statistics about Uighur-on-Uighur crime
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Oct 14, 2021 00:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:Goddamn dude this is like a half-step away from citing statistics about Uighur-on-Uighur crime dont you quote those MSS crime statistics at me!!!
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Oct 14, 2021 00:33
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Maximo Roboto posted:China would need to actually offer substantive material benefits. Yes Taiwan is a succ liberal democracy comprador regime, but it was an Asian Tiger that saw spectacular increases to quality of life that coincided with the transition to democracy. Those glory days are firmly a decade or two in the past now. So, what can China do to bring those days back, and ensure there won't be crackdowns on existing civil liberties as seen in Hong Kong? Maybe that's where the place they should start with. Seize the lands and apartments from the pro-DPP rich landlords and split them among and poor Millennial Taiwanese. Good old Red Army playbook.
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Oct 14, 2021 00:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:Goddamn dude this is like a half-step away from citing statistics about Uighur-on-Uighur crime uighur super predators overwhelming the cities
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Oct 14, 2021 00:37
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Cao Ni Ma posted:
We've gone from "the arrest figures were invented by the CIA" to "actually they're real and reflect well on the CCP's repsonse to the infamous 700% spike in baby-naming crimes in 2017." gradenko_2000 posted:Goddamn dude this is like a half-step away from citing statistics about Uighur-on-Uighur crime Wait, is systemic racism in policing the cause of massive disparities in arrest rates, or only in countries that aren't China?
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Oct 14, 2021 00:39
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je1 healthcare posted:We've gone from "the arrest figures were invented by the CIA" to "actually they're real and reflect well on the CCP's repsonse to the infamous 700% spike in baby-naming crimes in 2017." if you are going to play full contact shitposting sports you are going to get those in your way as well like, for example SorePotato posted:Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks
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Oct 14, 2021 00:50
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sorepotato I salute your proper command of the posting ways
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Oct 14, 2021 00:51
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no one denies that they didnt arrest a poo poo ton of people you idiot, just that the horror stories that go above and beyond "rights abuses that usually arise from imprisonment" are bullshit
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Oct 14, 2021 00:55
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laffing at all the former star havers on this page that could protect the peace and harmony of this thread from the malicious forces of liberal individualistic moralizing!
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Oct 14, 2021 00:57
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je1 healthcare posted:We've gone from "the arrest figures were invented by the CIA" to "actually they're real and reflect well on the CCP's repsonse to the infamous 700% spike in baby-naming crimes in 2017." Do you have a criticism of china that can't be boiled down to "their police state is not as egregious as ours, but it's in the same ballpark"? Because I guess I agree with you on that point but you could say that about a few countries.
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Oct 14, 2021 01:00
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SorePotato posted:Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks
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Oct 14, 2021 01:10
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je1 healthcare posted:We've gone from "the arrest figures were invented by the CIA" to "actually they're real and reflect well on the CCP's repsonse to the infamous 700% spike in baby-naming crimes in 2017."
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Oct 14, 2021 01:20
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Wanna see the statistics in 10 years after a good chunk of extra industrialization and the 5th round of mass CIA informant murder.
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Oct 14, 2021 01:22
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Maximo Roboto posted:Sweden's neutrality predates the Cold War, seems more along the lines of Swiss neutrality? quote:The IB affair (1973) (Swedish: IB-affären) was the exposure of the operations of the IB secret Swedish intelligence agency within the Swedish Armed Forces. The two main purposes of the agency were to handle liaison with foreign intelligence agencies and to gather information about communists and other individuals who were perceived to be a threat to the nation. quote:Read the Snowden Documents From the NSA
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Oct 14, 2021 01:44
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There was also some leak recently where the Swedes talked about how they wanted to murder Afghanis to advertise their weapons. Social democracy ftw!
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Oct 14, 2021 02:17
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SorePotato posted:Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks
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Oct 14, 2021 02:21
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je1 healthcare posted:We've gone from "the arrest figures were invented by the CIA" to "actually they're real and reflect well on the CCP's repsonse to the infamous 700% spike in baby-naming crimes in 2017."
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