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Kin posted:Aha, I saw him do that cross screen lunge a lot. So the trick is to counter that rather than the taunt. Nah you shoot him once he’s done his attack motion Charge up the storm middles and wait until he’s run himself out. You don’t really need to be aggressive on form 2.
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Samus is a kaizo ningen - an altered human. I'm sure an x-ray would be pretty gnarly. But you don't need the power suit to be screwed into her bones for the situation at the start of Fusion to be dangerous. Synthetic muscle could have been heat-fused to skin, or a surface-contact nerve uplink could have been at risk of overload.
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Oct 18, 2021 23:45
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Having just beat it yeah Phase 2 requires patience. I had a bitch of a time trying to tell the difference between his small beam and the big one. One of the things I learned to do was just drop out of space jump and blast him with a charge beam on the way down when he did the small beam around the room.
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Just finished it! 10:16 / 100% items. Final Boss was great, and not nearly as hard as I was expecting them to be. 100% was pretty breezy, only a couple of the shinespark puzzles tripped me up. Great game, will have to try hard mode sometime soon.
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Re: final boss First phase, if you want you can just work on casually dodging (and perfecting that) the non-counter attacks. The practice will help in the final phase. You do a ton of damage in the counters and can finish that phase basically with just those (4 missiles in each black sphere though, dodge back in between shots if necessary). And yes, when he does "come at me, bro" you need to come at him, bro (running melee). Second phase is probably the toughest for me. Work on telling the difference between the big blast and multi-blast. Get good at sliding (ZR while running) away and phase shifting. For the multi-blast, just go in a circle with space jump. It will maybe be too close near the top, so phase shift a couple times over him and keep going. Attack him at the bottom if you have time. Slide under him (NOT phase) when he charges. I don't remember if the sun is second or third phase, but use a power bomb on it (hope you picked up at least one upgrade). Third phase is a lot like the first, with a few extra attacks. Be ready to counter, but attack him when available. Keep in mind he is a Chozo not a huge monstrosity, and thus is like the minibosses. His whole body is vulnerable, and uncharged beams work (great) on him, assuming you can tap quickly.
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I do have one question about the ending -- why did the X parasite that was in Quiet Robe's body decide to help Samus at the end there?
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DoctorWhat posted:Samus is a kaizo ningen - an altered human. I'm sure an x-ray would be pretty gnarly. But you don't need the power suit to be screwed into her bones for the situation at the start of Fusion to be dangerous. Synthetic muscle could have been heat-fused to skin, or a surface-contact nerve uplink could have been at risk of overload. What, are you some kind of doctor or something
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I do have one question about the ending -- why did the X parasite that was in Quiet Robe's body decide to help Samus at the end there? My guess is that Quiet Robe, being Thoha, somehow had some sort of sentient control of his x reanimated body.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I do have one question about the ending -- why did the X parasite that was in Quiet Robe's body decide to help Samus at the end there? My read is The Thoha DNA = control over metroids, so that's why it made the metroid suit go away. From an survival perspective, maybe the X sees this as eliminating, or at least lessening the threat of a Metroid. Samus is probably still going to hunt any and all X, but at least she's not a super powerful rampaging Metroid creature? Hard to say if the X knew it was saving Samus or not. Otherwise, it had some of Quiet Robe's memories, and acted based on those, which feels maybe more what the emotional beat of that moment was going for. The game does mention the X can obtain the memories of those it infests, but I though the text crawl mentioned that happens to things infested alive, not after death?
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Oxyclean posted:My read is The Thoha DNA = control over metroids, so that's why it made the metroid suit go away. From an survival perspective, maybe the X sees this as eliminating, or at least lessening the threat of a Metroid. Samus is probably still going to hunt any and all X, but at least she's not a super powerful rampaging Metroid creature? Hard to say if the X knew it was saving Samus or not. Otherwise, it had some of Quiet Robe's memories, and acted based on those, which feels maybe more what the emotional beat of that moment was going for. The game does mention the X can obtain the memories of those it infests, but I though the text crawl mentioned that happens to things infested alive, not after death? The problem with this theory is that If it was the X in control and it wanted to stop samus, then they should have shut the hell up and let her drain all the ship power and trap her on an exploding planet
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Oxyclean posted:but I though the text crawl mentioned that happens to things infested alive, not after death? [/spoiler] Maybe he wasn't actually dead, or maybe there's a brief grace period where an X can infect a dead body that the brain is still fresh enough to read? I just finished the game and really do enjoy how much Dread was filled with Dread. EMMIs at the start were worrying to me, even though the checkpointing was generous enough that it wasn't ever a real threat. Just how disconcerting it was to go through much of the game without morphball and bombs. Even though there was plenty of abilities and sliding took the morphball place (except those times where you slid into a hole that ended up dropping you at least a square so you couldn't just turn back around, that caused more discomfort too). *gestures at the last zone, all of it*
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CainFortea posted:The problem with this theory is that If it was the X in control and it wanted to stop samus, then they should have shut the hell up and let her drain all the ship power and trap her on an exploding planet Does the X understand the planet is exploding and/or the predicament in general? The X focused on the Omega Metroid over Samus while on BSL, not intervening would have been just as effective there, since it would have wiped out the Metroid and Samus. But like I said, I do agree Quiet Robe's personality/memories being in play is probably the more likely factor since that just seems more the tone of the scene.
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It may just be me, but I feel like hitting the final boss with missiles in his golden aura form still makes him do his counter-able moves faster than normal. On the other hand he sure likes to be stingy with them if you keep missing the timing once too often.
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Oct 19, 2021 00:45
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So I'm stuck, again, I'm in Ferenia and I have the scanner ability thing but it seems like everywhere I can go is either blocked by a Green Door that I can't open, Super Bomb blocks I can't break or Cold Areas that will kill me. I'm probably missing something really obvious but I don't see it. I can go back to Ghavoran but there's only one way to go there but it seems too... out of the way and unintentional for be to backtrack that much at this point when I still have the EMMI in this area wandering around. edit: Figured it out. lmao sigher fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 19, 2021 |
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Oct 19, 2021 01:03
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I didn't realize the final boss was invincible in his golden form... i just spammed missiles at him the entire fight no matter what 
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Oct 19, 2021 01:17
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Kin posted:So, any pointers for the final boss? for phase 1, you're basically fishing for counter opportunities where you deal damage to him in the cinematic counter moments. dodge his attacks, and shoot beams into him when the shield is in shades of blue/red. After a bit, he'll warp to the side of the room, and charge a big room-wide beam attack. Duck undernearth it (or slide, or morph ball under it) to avoid it, and you'll go into a counter sequence, and if you haven't dealt enough damage yet to reach phase 2, then the shield turns gold, and it becomes functionally invincible. You can still counter his gut punch charge, and pester him with the beam until he does that or does a taunt that you can dash-counter into so you can deal damage to him. Phase 2, he starts flying, and you're just trying to deal damage to him wherever and whenever you can while dodging his attacks. He has a machine gun burst attack, and you just use space jump to jump around him a bit close to dodge it. Phase 1 can be beaten pretty quickly, especially if you spam uncharged wave beam shots into him whenever you get into a cinematic counter state, but phase 2 is gonna last a bit longer, because he doesn't give any opportunities to melee counter him and he's got more health in this phase than the first. Try to sneak in some charge shots whenever you can, but don't be too careless with tanking damage.
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RBA Starblade posted:The rest of the space dragons and whatever the giant lizard race that Kraid is are actually all really lovely people The Captain N comics had a member of Ridley's species as a respected Galactic Federation judge. Unfortunately, Ridley impersonated him to get Samus sent to space prison. (Once inside, Samus informed Kraid that he could spend a month in solitary or a month in the hospital. His choice.)
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I didn't realize the final boss was invincible in his golden form... i just spammed missiles at him the entire fight no matter what I did that at first to, then by the third time I just never fired anything outside the counter window
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Oct 19, 2021 01:57
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CainFortea posted:A weird thing I thought of playing this game. Some scenes we see the breakable blocks or the exploding alien organ thingies at an angle, and they look like they're 1 block tall, 1 block wide, but like 8 blocks long. Which makes me wonder if this time she doesn't turn into an actual ball, but is more like a big long cylinder. 
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Oct 19, 2021 02:28
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Got 100% in 9:40 (so about 10:00-10:10 even with the boss and cutscenes)  It actually feels like the harder, finickier shinesparks and training for how to break the game later. Also what the hell the giant lava tube does nothing at all
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Oct 19, 2021 02:39
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So uh... I've been playing this a little bit, and liking the 0% run. Really liking 
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chiasaur11 posted:The Captain N comics had a member of Ridley's species as a respected Galactic Federation judge. Unfortunately, Ridley impersonated him to get Samus sent to space prison.   Also even suitless Samus is a giant towering over her foes and kicking their rear end (this includes a metroid? they put a metroid in prison?)  YOUR CHOICE KRAID  They also showed up briefly in the cartoon and they were very, very different (but I guess more in line with Captain N Mother Brain)   CainFortea posted:A weird thing I thought of playing this game. Some scenes we see the breakable blocks or the exploding alien organ thingies at an angle, and they look like they're 1 block tall, 1 block wide, but like 8 blocks long. Which makes me wonder if this time she doesn't turn into an actual ball, but is more like a big long cylinder. 
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tonberi posted:So uh... I've been playing this a little bit, and liking the 0% run. Nice! Where are those hosted?
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mastajake posted:Nice! Where are those hosted? Hard run: https://twitch.tv/videos/1180606479 Normal run: https://twitch.tv/videos/1180386282
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The United States posted:Also even suitless Samus is a giant towering over her foes and kicking their rear end (this includes a metroid? they put a metroid in prison?)  both before and after other mi've also had this image burned into my brain from childhood and it's still canon as far as i'm concerned  quote:The Power Suit hides a strong, muscular woman.
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Oct 19, 2021 02:58
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Your Computer posted:really, the characterization of samus has been "You'll never be attacked by a chozo" Was engraved in my mind for decades. Prime and those loving ghosts shook but did not break my faith in those words. Raven Beak is a Torizo, change my mind.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I didn't realize the final boss was invincible in his golden form... i just spammed missiles at him the entire fight no matter what
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http://secondtruth.com/2010/09/samus-is-slowly-shrinking/ Your Computer posted:really, the characterization of samus has been     Your Computer posted:i've also had this image burned into my brain from childhood and it's still canon as far as i'm concerned FeyerbrandX posted:"You'll never be attacked by a chozo" Was engraved in my mind for decades. Prime and those loving ghosts shook but did not break my faith in those words. But yes, you'll never be attacked by a Chozo, because they'll all be dead, Samus will make sure of that 
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Your Computer posted:really, the characterization of samus has been Isn’t that the comic where they had the Last Metroid shot in the back by the Odious Comic Relief character?
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Unlucky7 posted:Isn’t that the comic where they had the Last Metroid shot in the back by the Odious Comic Relief character?  
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Oct 19, 2021 03:55
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The main idea I liked behind Houston was there being other bounty hunters out there with Great Value power suits.
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i've never read the comic, i just thought the metroid jail was funny sorry
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Your Computer posted:i've never read the comic, i just thought the metroid jail was funny sorry Don't worry. The Metroid Jail is a different comic entirely.
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Hogama posted:The main idea I liked behind Houston was there being other bounty hunters out there with Great Value power suits.    Wow space racism much mother brain
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FeyerbrandX posted:I assume Raven Beak hosed with the ini file for the varia suit which is why it didn't work with cold rooms this time. Considering the entire plot of Dread was Samus' Metroid DNA kicking into high gear, my read was that it was making her cold weakness worse, to the point where she needed the better protection of the Gravity Suit to cover for it.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I do have one question about the ending -- why did the X parasite that was in Quiet Robe's body decide to help Samus at the end there? My read on it was that Metroids are the ultimate predator of the X. So if the X were going to go extinct they were going to take the Metroid down with them. So they drained the Metroid DNA from Samus to achieve that.
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How far through the game am I if I just defeated Escue, grabbed the Storm Missiles, and am now up against the Twin Robot Chozo Soldiers?
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SalTheBard posted:My read on it was that Metroids are the ultimate predator of the X. So if the X were going to go extinct they were going to take the Metroid down with them. So they drained the Metroid DNA from Samus to achieve that. that is literally the opposite of how it works though. the metroid dna eats x before it has a chance to infect, that's why the metroid vaccine worked in the first place as per fusion's intro. the thing that made samus revert at the end was 100% the thoha genes from bird friend, which as he explained can control the metroid. so sammy presumably just got better control over her beast mode.
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Escobarbarian posted:How far through the game am I if I just defeated Escue, grabbed the Storm Missiles, and am now up against the Twin Robot Chozo Soldiers? Eh....2/3? 3/4? You are kind of in the home stretch, and the next two power ups you get more or less blow the game open for you.
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