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LastInLine posted:I know I'm a little behind the curve but I've never worked for a company that didn't fire you as soon as you put in your two weeks. I had one company where I worked a week after my notice, before that I worked EMS and they let me work a full 2 weeks. I have also been called up on my work provided cellphone to be fired with the phone service disconnected 5 min later (at the time they gave me the phone they said I could use it for personal if I wanted, good thing I didn't). Tis a land of contrasts.
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LastInLine posted:I know I'm a little behind the curve but I've never worked for a company that didn't fire you as soon as you put in your two weeks. It really depends on what your job is and how far you are up in the company. Any job where you’re managing clients or doing a lot of paperwork or anyone who’s running a team of people is going to get the two weeks so they can close everything out and transition their responsibilities to other people.
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I just want to say this again, all these stories about getting fired after putting in your two weeks are from america right? I'm pretty sure every sane country the idea you could get fired during your last two weeks is insane. at least in klanada, you actually have to either get paid for two weeks or have two weeks notice before they can lay you off, with only firing for obvious cause not requiring that.
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Oct 21, 2021 17:28
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One time I gave a company a whole month because I liked my coworkers and didn't want to gently caress them over. My boss told me not to tell anyone, defeating the purpose of notice. Of course, I did anyway but if I'd listened to him it would have been a massive morale killer: my TD had given notice for the same week and both of us would have left without any actual handoff
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Oct 21, 2021 17:31
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Ardent Communist posted:I just want to say this again, all these stories about getting fired after putting in your two weeks are from america right? I'm pretty sure every sane country the idea you could get fired during your last two weeks is insane. at least in klanada, you actually have to either get paid for two weeks or have two weeks notice before they can lay you off, with only firing for obvious cause not requiring that. Yeah. It’s pretty common in the US for some jobs, especially low level stuff like retail clerks or call center employees. Also some small business tyrants will just take it as a personal rejection and fire people on the spot. But if you’re working for a moderate sized company (where there’s an HR to keep the boss from throwing a tantrum and firing you on the spot) and you’re not on the bottom rung then you’ll usually get the two weeks
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Ardent Communist posted:I just want to say this again, all these stories about getting fired after putting in your two weeks are from america right? I'm pretty sure every sane country the idea you could get fired during your last two weeks is insane. at least in klanada, you actually have to either get paid for two weeks or have two weeks notice before they can lay you off, with only firing for obvious cause not requiring that. You can fire people instantly for no reason. That's what's so funny about American employment law: they can fire you for no reasons, but there's also a bunch of reasons they *can't* fire you for.
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30.5 Days posted:You can fire people instantly for no reason. That's what's so funny about American employment law: they can fire you for no reasons, but there's also a bunch of reasons they *can't* fire you for. And yet people still gently caress that up lmao
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Actually have a funny story about that. Guy owned a restaurant and the person who did his books put in notice and he was super hurt she wanted to leave and fired her on the spot. Figured he could run everything. But he thought his point of sales software handled the remitting and return filing part of his sales tax instead of just the collecting part. So he spent like six months collecting but not remitting. Washington does not like when you do that, fyi
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Oct 21, 2021 17:40
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Yeah like at a lot of companies there's still the whole process you have in other countries of documenting issues and developing a case to fire for cause, not because it's legally required, but because otherwise managers will get the company into hot water because they're the dumbest people alive. My favorite manager moment was when my friend asked why she was passed over for promotion and it took like 5 tries because they kept admitting it was because she took long term disability during the pandemic. Note from a doctor and everything. Eventually she went to hr and just said "look wouldn't it be better for everyone if you gave me three months severance and I never talked to anyone about my time working here again?" And they agreed and it was a happy ending.
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Oct 21, 2021 17:41
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At my last job I initially gave a month's notice, but then they wanted me to start my new job earlier so I changed it to two weeks, which INFURIATED the CEO (small business, same one I mentioned before) and he was like YOU WILL WORK YOUR rear end OFF EVERY GOD drat MINUTE OF THAT TWO WEEKS YOU HEAR ME! He then called me back into his office 30 minutes later after my immediate boss had talked to him and was like "y'know what... I've calmed down, how about you take the two weeks off instead, paid...". As far as I can tell, my boss told him just how badly I could gently caress poo poo Up if I wanted to. That was neat 
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Shame Boy posted:That city is called "The State of Florida" and the government resolved to keep doing it on principle even though it was a giant money sinkhole. HashtagGirlboss posted:Don’t forget that the “city official” is now a US Senator lol of course that horrible story would be much, much worse than I recall.
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Y'know this Onion bit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ Living in Florida is basically like that, but also people get hurt by the money hole somehow too.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:And yet people still gently caress that up lmao This really is the most hilarious thing about it
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The person who wrote a letter for Tuesday's Ask a Manager is capitalism.txt incarnate.A sociopath posted:I’m not comfortable with one of my new staff members and how overconfident she is. Her work is great and she needed very little training but she’s got very big britches.
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Kreeblah posted:HR allowed the use of the employee hardship fund and gave her $500 in gift cards so she can get groceries and gas and catch up on bills. Ahahahahaha sure let me pay my bills with gift cards thanks That's gotta be fake though, what kind of company would have an "employee hardship fund" at all
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Oct 21, 2021 18:10
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it's okay to fire Jane. workers who do a good job and don't require much training are many in number, easy to find
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Shame Boy posted:Ahahahahaha sure let me pay my bills with gift cards thanks It's better not to call it the "let's not get ourselves sued fund" in front of the rabble.
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Oct 21, 2021 18:16
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Shame Boy posted:Ahahahahaha sure let me pay my bills with gift cards thanks Maybe they gave her iTunes cards so that she could cover any taxes she owed the IRS.
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30.5 Days posted:Yeah like at a lot of companies there's still the whole process you have in other countries of documenting issues and developing a case to fire for cause, not because it's legally required, but because otherwise managers will get the company into hot water because they're the dumbest people alive. My favorite manager moment was when my friend asked why she was passed over for promotion and it took like 5 tries because they kept admitting it was because she took long term disability during the pandemic. Note from a doctor and everything. they should really add "how not to get your company sued" to MBA coursework Dreylad has issued a correction as of 18:23 on Oct 21, 2021 |
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Kreeblah posted:The person who wrote a letter for Tuesday's Ask a Manager is capitalism.txt incarnate. 
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That ask a manager story really drives home how loving stupid managers are. Like this lady pulls out the email chain & coins start spilling out of HR's mouth like a loving slot machine, and this guy can't figure out what is really going on.
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Oct 21, 2021 18:25
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If that is real, that employee is being exceptionally kind to that company. I think I would just stop showing up to work after the second time they missed my paycheck.
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Shame Boy posted:Ahahahahaha sure let me pay my bills with gift cards thanks ~My Union~ has one Anyway props to Jane
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Ardent Communist posted:I just want to say this again, all these stories about getting fired after putting in your two weeks are from america right? I'm pretty sure every sane country the idea you could get fired during your last two weeks is insane. at least in klanada, you actually have to either get paid for two weeks or have two weeks notice before they can lay you off, with only firing for obvious cause not requiring that. well until up to about a year ago, managers and small business tyrants basically assumed that there was a never ending supply of unskilled labor willing to work for peanuts so the thought of not being able to replace someone was basically unheard of. one personal experience is when i worked at a restaurant, the boss kind of liked me, which was fine. i was indifferent towards him, but he really hated this one particular waitress, Kim. Anyway Kim didn't care for the boss much either but she was a waitress there for over a year and eventually found another job and in the interest of not being a dick, Kim did what she was supposed to do and gave 2 weeks notice. The day after she did that, the boss called her at home and non-chanataly said "yea i dont think im gonna need you next week" so that was about 5 or 6 shifts including weekends just poofed.
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yeah, i've worked in at a restaurant, it's the wild west. still, if she had like photos or something that proved she had those shifts till she quit, she might be able to get some money, in lieu and all that.
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LastInLine posted:I know I'm a little behind the curve but I've never worked for a company that didn't fire you as soon as you put in your two weeks. Ours used to frog march us to the door instantly when you handed it in. Clear your table, hand in your badge, whole network account deleted by next morning. Now since we've been understaffed the last 5+ years, its 'sure but can you do the full next two weeks?' and those who agree just spend the time playing games. We also had a non-compete clause saying we couldn't work in the same industry for 6 months. Used to scare us, the peons. Then it was dropped when a good chuck of the upper management just up'ed and hosed off to a direct competitor, some literally starting that next week at the new place.
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Abongination posted:Drug testing is a big money maker with a lot of investment from those that dictate that people need to be tested. cf Florida and Rick scott I believe e: oh nvm
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Milo and POTUS posted:cf Florida and Rick scott I believe lol, although to be fair I don't think anyone mentioned that Rick Scott's wife was part of the company that did the drug testing.
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So I kinda keep an eye on AI killing machines because they scare me. And this company makes a few that are currently being used to kill people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bj8kZ8_Ne4 So I was wondering when we'll see these types of machines deployed in the US. I figured they'll probably start out non-lethal, and then expand from there as it becomes more normalized. Welp. https://www.theverge.com/2015/8/26/9211165/north-dakota-armed-drones-tasers North Dakota has legalized the use of drones shooting tasers and spraying tear gas.
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spacetoaster posted:So I was wondering when we'll see these types of machines deployed in the US. Didn't the US police strap a gun onto a drone a year or two ago to shoot at someone?
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happyhippy posted:Didn't the US police strap a gun onto a drone a year or two ago to shoot at someone? They blew up teh Houston cop shooter by putting a bomb on a bomb robot and blowing him up.
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Boywhiz88 posted:They blew up teh Houston cop shooter by putting a bomb on a bomb robot and blowing him up. Dallas, not Houston. E: 5 years ago https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485262777/for-the-first-time-police-used-a-bomb-robot-to-kill
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happyhippy posted:Didn't the US police strap a gun onto a drone a year or two ago to shoot at someone? Probably, but the thing about those STI drones is that they have an autonomous AI mode for finding their own targets and killing them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqv9yaPLhEk
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https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/director-squid-game-says-about-capitalism-actually-about-communism
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Boywhiz88 posted:They blew up teh Houston cop shooter by putting a bomb on a bomb robot and blowing him up. Wile E Coyote poo poo. His name was Micah Xavier Johnson for the record  .spacetoaster posted:So I kinda keep an eye on AI killing machines because they scare me. And this company makes a few that are currently being used to kill people. Watch Israel. They will be the first to use it for internal control, and they have fairly good ones that were used when Armenia got invaded.
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skooma512 posted:Watch Israel. They will be the first to use it for internal control, and they have fairly good ones that were used when Armenia got invaded. They're already doing it with automated machine gun turrets, friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ7ZjdBpElU
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I just do not loving understand how the people who work on this poo poo sleep at night.
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Thanatosian posted:I just do not loving understand how the people who work on this poo poo sleep at night. Engineers man. Engineers. Some souless goul in the government says: "Hey, can we make an autonomous robot that kills people?" And then the engineers are like: "Oooh! A problem to solve!"
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when I was a kid I loved weapons and weaponry and big explosions and stuff and I would have liked to make bigger explosions and better weaponry if offered the opportunity. i assume some people just always feel that way into adulthood
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I'm a little late with quitchat but here's my story: drat that'd be a nice loophole for the company "you can't quit today, we don't have the forms. come back tomorrow." *comes back tomorrow* "you can't quit today, we don't have the forms. come back tomorrow." etc etc
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