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Samovar posted:I'd never even heard of this RWBY thing until now. I had heard about it before the Hbomberguy video because a guy in my D&D group kept talking about how awesome it was. This led me and another friend from the group to watch the first episode, at which point we both simultaneously come to the conclusion that the first dude had inexplicably terrible taste in media.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 17:39 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 01:46 |
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I listened to a couple of episodes of Mary Cagle's podcast discussing RWBY with her friend and co-host and it sounded like the most absolute trite crap imaginable, and I can't believe it's gone on for 8 seasons and counting now.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 20:35 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:It doesn't have solid character design, it has generic character design which lets people create their uninspired OCs. What in the world are you talking about Like character design is basically the thing that carried the show. That and the fact that gun scythes and shotgun gauntlets are really cool.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:09 |
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nine-gear crow posted:I listened to a couple of episodes of Mary Cagle's podcast discussing RWBY with her friend and co-host and it sounded like the most absolute trite crap imaginable, and I can't believe it's gone on for 8 seasons and counting now. I think the most obvious thing that went wrong with RWBY was just that apparently nobody had any kind of real vision for the show. They just decided to make an anime and no one involved had a story they wanted to tell or characters that they wanted to develop.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:31 |
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Saagonsa posted:What in the world are you talking about I think the issue here is that there are different standards for character design that people in the discussion are working with: RWBY has reasonably good character designs within the limitations it sets for itself, making effective use of colour and clothing to make its characters visually interesting. The problem I think that some people have is that the show falls into the "paper doll syndrome" you see in some anime where the characters all have the same basic proportions and bodyshape, being defined more by their accessories and hairstyles than the over all physicality of their form. With RWBY, at least, this is more the result of the limitations of the technology they're working with, but I'm personally not a huge fan of the basic template they use for characters so the designs don't really do it for me.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:37 |
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NorgLyle posted:I think the most obvious thing that went wrong with RWBY was just that apparently nobody had any kind of real vision for the show. They just decided to make an anime and no one involved had a story they wanted to tell or characters that they wanted to develop. Yeah, RWBY was "we should make an anime with the cooo fights guy!" as the entire pitch and Rooster Teeth just happens to have enough cash and viewers to keep it from collapsing. If this was an indie Kickstarter project, they would have ran with the remaining money after the second trailer.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:41 |
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Acute Grill posted:Yeah, RWBY was "we should make an anime with the cooo fights guy!" as the entire pitch and Rooster Teeth just happens to have enough cash and viewers to keep it from collapsing. If this was an indie Kickstarter project, they would have ran with the remaining money after the second trailer. Which is kind of funny as now they're owned by Warner Brothers but still trying to pretend they're a garage operation.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:49 |
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Acute Grill posted:Yeah, RWBY was "we should make an anime with the cooo fights guy!" as the entire pitch and Rooster Teeth just happens to have enough cash and viewers to keep it from collapsing. If this was an indie Kickstarter project, they would have ran with the remaining money after the second trailer. Make Team RWBY part of a smaller school and the underdogs. Make most of the other schools evil Hunger Games District 1 type things so you have a constant outlet both for Monty Oum's seeming desire to add new characters with fancy new weapons all the time and a ready made source of 'Bad Anime Girls To Punch and Kick'. Spin whatever other plot out of that setup. Also, Sakura Taisen figured out in Game 1 and OVA 1 that nobody wants to actually watch Generic Male Protagonist in the show. Put him in the games, sure, so players can control him and date their choice of waifus but in the show shove Blonde Guy With A Sword into the back of every scene and focus on the characters that are going to get people watching and make you merch money.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:54 |
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the blonde guy with a sword was surprisingly one of the more interesting characters to me because of how low the bar was set once each other character opened their mouth of course then his love interest gets fridged to pump up his "character development" more lmao
Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Oct 24, 2021 |
# ? Oct 24, 2021 21:57 |
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lunar detritus posted:RWBY has its problems but the hatedom around it is really weird considering the show is inoffensively mediocre. I'm of the mind RWBY trades between trashy fun and boring (its very mealy-mouthed attempts at political commentary aside) but there's two different critical branches of RWBY-indulgers. There's the people who fall in that hbomberguy range of "it has some cool ideas, lots of dumb ideas, and ultimately fails to really be compelling" and then there's the more extreme wing of "nitpick every animation error and get insensibly mad at the show." I get the feeling that second cluster is part of the wider group of people who do that with every children's cartoon. However, it's particularly visible with RWBY because the fruits there aren't so much low-hanging as already-fallen-and-half-rotten-on-the-ground. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 24, 2021 |
# ? Oct 24, 2021 22:02 |
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One more week til Hallowe'en, and Flash In The Pan has a returning guest to talk about spoooooooooky animations! This one was particularly fun, and the cartoons were both pretty dang good, too.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:07 |
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I have a video: Kuncan Dastner did a video commentating on a handful of content creators who did the whole 'squid games but REAL LIFE?!?!?!' thing and how badly they missed the point of the show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYrEGJzPiq0
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:19 |
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Mix. posted:I have a video: Kuncan Dastner did a video commentating on a handful of content creators who did the whole 'squid games but REAL LIFE?!?!?!' thing and how badly they missed the point of the show I only saw the one hosted by Critikal, which felt alright if not a bit odd considering the source material. I had no idea it was that much of a trend. (and of course anything MrBeast does is just terrible anyway)
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 23:29 |
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In video discussion, I couldn't decide what to put on for noise behind video games earlier, and Part 2 of Quinton's iCarly thing was in my suggestions so I was like "Whatever" and put it on. I've got to say, the joking "I just don't know who created these Nickelodeon shows!" bit is pretty lovely when you've spent 7 hours talking about the show. I get how talking about the pedophile with the foot fetish would bring down what's supposed to be a fun retrospective series... but it's also kind of bad to just play clips of Miranda Cosgrove being contrived into sticking her big toe in a bath tub faucet so that she can spend a whole episode's B-plot with her bare foot bottom propped out of the bathtub and facing the camera and just not remark on that poo poo at all. Especially when you have a whole jokey aside near the end where you go "Hmm... am I forgetting anything? Hmmmm NOPE!" And now he's saying on twitter he's working on what looks to be a 6 or 7-hour video of Victorious as a lead up to an eventual multi-hour Sam and Cat video: https://twitter.com/Q_Review/status/1452379374309687297 And it's like come on dude.... how much do you really need to dig into all of these interchangeably mean-spirited teen sitcoms?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:10 |
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did quinton get cursed by the fae that requires him to make 50 hours of content about every show miranda cosgrove touched by nickelodeon or else they'll take his true name forever what the hell
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:24 |
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I don't know about anyone else but this is definitely putting me off his channel. I thought he did a good job with his mix of subjects but these super long live action Nick show crap is not interesting to me at all.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:36 |
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Mission creep is a hard thing to avoid
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:37 |
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Yeah I think I'll just wait for PopArena to get around to those shows. Should get there in another 5-10 years yeah?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 00:39 |
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Mix. posted:did quinton get cursed by the fae that requires him to make 50 hours of content about every show miranda cosgrove touched by nickelodeon or else they'll take his true name forever what the hell no i think he just sucks rear end
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:09 |
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Alacron posted:Yeah I think I'll just wait for PopArena to get around to those shows. I shudder to think of all we’ll know about Dan Schneider’s Nick years by then.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:16 |
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muscles like this! posted:I don't know about anyone else but this is definitely putting me off his channel. I thought he did a good job with his mix of subjects but these super long live action Nick show crap is not interesting to me at all.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:29 |
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I really think the fact that he made this iCarly retrospective a subscriber push goal is what ultimately destroyed Quinton. The fact that this was a reward for his audience for reaching a subscriber milestone meant he set his own expectations for the video incredibly high, which I think (And as people have speculated on) has led to Quinton feeling like he needs to put out a lot of content about this show, regardless of if there's actually that much to say about it or not. I'm a bit too old to be in the show's demographic and was never really a fan of live action teen sitcoms to begin with, so my own standards are obviously a bit skewed, but it seems like if you're doing a retrospective on iCarly then talking about how it was made by a pedophile foot fetishist is the most interesting possible thing you could discuss in the video.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:38 |
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:(Apologies if I missed this already being posted) It perplexes the hell out of me how a channel and creator who defines themselves by their rational rigor could fail such a simple ethics test as "don't take money from people who produce products you report on." Like, I cannot fathom a more obvious conflict of interest.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 01:40 |
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Samovar posted:I'd never even heard of this RWBY thing until now. https://i.imgur.com/nWcr9V5.mp4
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 02:18 |
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I mean, some anime, yes. but then stuff like mob psycho exists so truly we live in a complex world
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 02:23 |
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Almost as if you can judge an entire medium on broad generalizations.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 02:58 |
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The United States posted:No anime is just as perplexingly mediocre Also, that show was an anomaly for how incredibly terrible it was. The entire production staff was full of people that hadn't worked on a tv show before, and the director had only worked on live action shows before.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:08 |
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Imagine having a genre of entertainment around for more that a century and still being capable of making bad products. Anyway, time to take a big sip of water and put on the live action Cruella movie and if that one won't play I can alwayd pick Space Jam: A New Legacy or Mortal Kombat instead!
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:09 |
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it's easier to still act like it's 2004 and generalize an entire medium. next up in my outdated edgy act, furries sure are gross, right folks?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:10 |
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mob psycho is great >
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:24 |
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RareAcumen posted:Imagine having a genre of entertainment around for more that a century and still being capable of making bad products. Somehow Cruella is the most insulting of those 3 movies while undoubtedly being the objective best of the three. God drat did Cruella suck.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:24 |
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Oh so we're at the "broad generalizations bringing out the ardent defenders" phase of anime discussion again, I see.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:36 |
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Mokinokaro posted:Not touching that particular thing because it's become the latest target of the moron Star Wars reactionaries because a female writer on the team dares to have opinions. You're not interested because reactionaries hate it?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:37 |
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In conclusion, anime is a land of contrasts! Now let's return to our spirited debate about the Zak Snyder isekai.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:39 |
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The United States posted:No anime is just as perplexingly mediocre this show looks badass whats it called
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:45 |
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Alaois posted:this show looks badass whats it called I believe that's Ex-Arm
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 03:53 |
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The Ex-Arm manga is deeply mediocre, at least the anime version is memorable
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 04:26 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Oh so we're at the "broad generalizations bringing out the ardent defenders" phase of anime discussion again, I see. It's the same three jokes over and over again. 'ooh it's a nation of perverts that can't draw a good cartoon haw haw' It's boring. At least talk about the other ways that they gently caress up, like their denial of previous warcrimes or what they're doing to pizza over there. That's ripe for discussion.
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 05:06 |
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RareAcumen posted:It's the same three jokes over and over again. 'ooh it's a nation of perverts that can't draw a good cartoon haw haw' It's boring. At least talk about the other ways that they gently caress up, like their denial of previous warcrimes or what they're doing to pizza over there. That's ripe for discussion. corn and kewpie mayo on pizza is a treasure
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 05:10 |
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# ? May 29, 2024 01:46 |
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RareAcumen posted:'ooh it's a nation of perverts that can't draw a good cartoon haw haw' yeah but enough about america we're talking about anime
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 05:16 |