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Minrad posted:its incredible how hilariously unaffordable life is in america if you try to avoid plastic when possible. like every low or non plastic option for *anything* is always more expensive because the entire supply chain is built on the cheapest (meaning plastic) option with no real alternatives. I have tried to find a blanket like blankets used to be, cotton blanket with that strip of polyester or whatever at the top and I swear they don't exist anymore or something.
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Oct 27, 2021 17:18
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Rectal Death Adept posted:the best thing about the hyper focus on the dumbass equations of (Human Specific Carbon Emission Amount) + (Time) = (Temperature) that currently defines most of our conversation on climate change is that it ignores all of the natural feedback loops, non-carbon emissions and untraced emissions that are also happening. Yeah but carbon is a problem with vaguely plausible (impossible) Hollywood movie status quo preserving solutions and all the rest isn't so we'll just laser focus carbon and assume the rest will fix itself.
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Oct 27, 2021 17:36
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Shifty Nipples posted:I have tried to find a blanket like blankets used to be, cotton blanket with that strip of polyester or whatever at the top and I swear they don't exist anymore or something. i gave up on finding non-handmade blankets that weren't mostly some kind of polyester, but now I can't even find one that doesn't make my teeth itch to touch
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Oct 27, 2021 18:02
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Protip: get a cheap all wool blanket, it will be scratchy and maybe ugly because it's cheap, and put it in a cotton duvet cover. Warm, not itchy, and no plastic. This may still be difficult depending on where you live unfortunately.
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Oct 27, 2021 18:15
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Can anyone link me up the old thread? I want to keep it around for reference. Someone is asking me about forest fires right now and there's good stuff in it about them - i.e., natural good fires vs unnatural bad fires, expected fire vs unexpected fire, etc.
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Oct 27, 2021 18:46
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Can anyone link me up the old thread? I want to keep it around for reference. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3884239 cheers
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Oct 27, 2021 18:51
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Neat, thanks for sharing. What is meant by "increased internalizing behaviors (Whyatt et al. 2012)"? It's this one referenced: https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1103705 "(emotionally reactive, anxious/depressed, somatic complaints, withdrawn)" basically you know, brain no worky so good
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Oct 27, 2021 18:53
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Enfys posted:a city in Ireland removed a bunch of mature trees from public spaces and then spent €350k on 5 robot trees to improve air quality love to solve all my problems through the miracle of technology; everything is good and nothing can go wrong
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Oct 27, 2021 19:22
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BIG HEADLINE posted:This is honestly worth a watch if you have 45 minutes to kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehmmzbi3UI I quite enjoyed that. Thanks!
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Oct 27, 2021 19:34
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Rectal Death Adept posted:the best thing about the hyper focus on the dumbass equations of (Human Specific Carbon Emission Amount) + (Time) = (Temperature) that currently defines most of our conversation on climate change is that it ignores all of the natural feedback loops, non-carbon emissions and untraced emissions that are also happening. eh i would say the best thing is how we've already emitted Pliocene-era levels of CO2 and kicked off a mass extinction event but the focus is on adaptation or mitigation and not managing human extinction reading parable of the sower finally and the bits where the govt is issuing updates on the space program as all the major coastal cities succumb to famine and sectarian violence feels right. wish i could see the IPCC updates issued from the last survivors in siberia and the canadian shield. carbon capture technology to turn this ship around any day according to COP97 lmao
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Oct 27, 2021 19:37
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IAMKOREA posted:I don't know if I would call plastic monomers like ethylene and propylene "byproducts", they are specifically created in reactors by dehydrogenating ethane and propane. And ethane and propane aren't toxic, they actually burn pretty cleanly. that said yes, the actual toxicity of some basic thing like say ethane->polyethene reduced into nano/microplastics is extremely unknown compared to something like plasticizer-made plastics which have more measurable metabolites. they are probably relatively-safe themselves. but i would also question whether there's a difference in breathing a few ethane molecules vs eating dehydrogenated and catalyzed ethane; and saying that one burns clean doesn't imply that a different form and different route is actually okay. in any case there's clearly a wide set of widely-used variety (either some monomers themselves, or chemical plasticizers) that is unquestionably bad, and then another wide set of other more say... inert... nano-micro varieties of extremely unknown long-term exposure. double but i would also say that it seems like a no brainer to say it's all worse than if we hadn't produced zilliontons of it crushed into fine dust and spread at the very highest mountains to deepest ocean trenches at all
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Oct 27, 2021 19:55
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Xaris posted:various bisphenols are not plasticizers though, they are also monomers, and they're appearing to be not so good for everything either. Agreed on all counts, good point about bisphenols, I just wanted to encourage being more specific to avoid I LOVE SCIENCE! D&D derails, not even now but in the future and in other threads.
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Oct 27, 2021 20:06
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welp, there’s a burning cargo ship carrying 57 tons of potassium amylxanthate being abandoned at puget sound’s entrance
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Oct 27, 2021 21:02
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Tekne posted:welp, there’s a burning cargo ship carrying 57 tons of potassium amylxanthate being abandoned at puget sound’s entrance 
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Oct 27, 2021 21:12
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positive: its a biodegradable compound negative: its water soluble and deadly
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Oct 27, 2021 21:18
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if it wasn't for the dark ages we would have ruined our climate by 1600
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Oct 27, 2021 21:20
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Real hurthling! posted:positive: its a biodegradable compound also the cause for the fire, because I guess it’s one of those lively compounds that explodes in the open air news says the crew abandoned ship but they’re planning to tow it back in when the weather calms down, though the smoke is definitely going to make the air spicy for a few square miles even if the water isn’t polluted
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Oct 27, 2021 21:29
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Oxxidation posted:also the cause for the fire, because I guess it’s one of those lively compounds that explodes in the open air gotta tow it outside of the environment
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Oct 27, 2021 21:35
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Torpor posted:gotta tow it outside of the environment A few tens of tons of pollution into the ocean can't do anything. There's too much water. It'd take gigatons to do real damage. Wait. poo poo.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:07
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Complications posted:Yeah but carbon is a problem with vaguely plausible (impossible) Hollywood movie status quo preserving solutions and all the rest isn't so we'll just laser focus carbon and assume the rest will fix itself.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:31
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Shifty Nipples posted:I have tried to find a blanket like blankets used to be, cotton blanket with that strip of polyester or whatever at the top and I swear they don't exist anymore or something. My dad bought a place in portugal & in the basement was a trunk with a couple of proper old school blankets. They must be 50+ years old & they are heavy, scratchy & warm as gently caress.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:32
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This seems cool https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thousands-sea-creatures-wash-up-25298945
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Oct 27, 2021 23:06
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kyojin posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiQR981H_9U king crimson still winning for accuracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OvW8Z7kiws quote:Cat's foot, iron claw
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Oct 27, 2021 23:35
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Unless posted:king crimson still winning for accuracy these old guys have been pretty on the mark. more recently they were opening their concerts with a little “we told you so in the 80s” "unacceptable posted:Irreducible is the word for today
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Oct 27, 2021 23:41
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A selection of popular fast food items sampled in this study contain detectable levels of replacement plasticizers and concerning ortho-phthalates. In addition, food handling gloves contain replacement plasticizers, which may be a source of food contamination. These results, if confirmed, may inform individual and regulatory exposure reduction strategies. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00392-8 so the gloves at mc donalds are just raining chems all over the food
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Oct 28, 2021 00:46
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holy gently caress lol lmao
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Oct 28, 2021 00:52
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Real hurthling! posted:so the gloves at mc donalds are just raining chems all over the food
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Oct 28, 2021 01:02
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Real hurthling! posted:A selection of popular fast food items sampled in this study contain detectable levels of replacement plasticizers and concerning ortho-phthalates. In addition, food handling gloves contain replacement plasticizers, which may be a source of food contamination. These results, if confirmed, may inform individual and regulatory exposure reduction strategies. well just eating Big Macs isn’t enough to cause obesity so they needed to kick it up a notch. basically famine from good omens
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Oct 28, 2021 01:04
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Xaris posted:well just eating Big Macs isn’t enough to cause obesity so they needed to kick it up a notch. basically famine from good omens that book owned, collab of the century
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Oct 28, 2021 01:06
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Unless posted:king crimson still winning for accuracy Been feeling the sentiment of "epitaph" since the day I became a politically conscious person https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXrpFxHfppI The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools. Tomorrow, I fear I'll be crying, indeed.
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Oct 28, 2021 01:07
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Real hurthling! posted:so the gloves at mc donalds are just raining chems all over the food of course
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Oct 28, 2021 01:13
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Real hurthling! posted:A selection of popular fast food items sampled in this study contain detectable levels of replacement plasticizers and concerning ortho-phthalates. In addition, food handling gloves contain replacement plasticizers, which may be a source of food contamination. These results, if confirmed, may inform individual and regulatory exposure reduction strategies. Lmao that owns, dual mechanism obesity pump
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Oct 28, 2021 01:17
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Real hurthling! posted:A selection of popular fast food items sampled in this study contain detectable levels of replacement plasticizers and concerning ortho-phthalates. In addition, food handling gloves contain replacement plasticizers, which may be a source of food contamination. These results, if confirmed, may inform individual and regulatory exposure reduction strategies. yum
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Oct 28, 2021 01:33
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It is becoming increasingly clear that all plastics must be destroyed.
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Oct 28, 2021 01:44
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Stopped at the grocery store after my shift tonight and had a hearty lol when I walked through the Organic Foods aisle and saw that practically everything was contained in plastic
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Oct 28, 2021 02:33
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the plastic pill is the one that will break the most brains IMO
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Oct 28, 2021 02:35
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Homocow posted:the plastic pill is the one that will break the most brains I expect it's broken 7+ billion not counting animals already wait you meant metaphorically never mind
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Oct 28, 2021 02:41
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SKULL.GIF posted:Stopped at the grocery store after my shift tonight and had a hearty lol when I walked through the Organic Foods aisle and saw that practically everything was contained in plastic (also it costs like 10-cents extra per container to use glass and transport it and breakage loss probably adds a little more ontop of that).
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Oct 28, 2021 02:48
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Homocow posted:the plastic pill is the one that will break the most brains disagreed. no one cares and boomers will be dead (of premature cancers) by the time it matters to them. instead we'll just hear some occasional pearl-clutching articles on motherjones and maybe huffpo once in awhile and just be a general aggregatized trend that's like 'oh well that's too bad, i feel okay though, *slurp*'
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Oct 28, 2021 02:48
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no I'm saying plastic pills will literally destroy our brains I'm already mostly plastic
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Oct 28, 2021 02:54
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