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zegermans posted:One thing Europeans suck about is spaying/neutering. Every time I go to Austria I just see dog balls everywhere. Why would you cut off a dog's balls? Do you just let them run around outside?
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actionjackson posted:false ok, you are partially correct: MDF is better for manufacturers. For longevity, strength, ability to resurface, plywood is better high end cabinet boxes and other fine woodwork use plywood. MDF is for mass production and fumigating your home w formaldehyde offgasses
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neither dog balls nor furniture wood change the fact that cars are in fact, bad
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might gently caress around and buy a brompton
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carbrain emissions
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mila kunis posted:wheres the we cant have transit because large dogs guy. show yourself coward Boji freakin owns, this thread is the Boji appreciation station
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lil poopendorfer posted:ok, you are partially correct: MDF is better for manufacturers. For longevity, strength, ability to resurface, plywood is better I have no idea about wood stuff that isn't furniture, but plenty of high end furniture uses MDF. however they do it with a really nice, thick veneering. my media unit is from this collection, and I'd hardly consider treku to be "mass production" unless you are using a really strict definition of that. like if you're talking about one old danish dude making each piece by hand over a year then maybe, though a lot of that stuff is solid wood, perhaps because they are being strict to the original design (i.e. stuff from finn juhl, carl hanssen and son, etc.) https://www.treku.com/en/about-us/ https://www.dwr.com/living-media-storage/aura-media-unit/1198.html?lang=en_US (I paid 880 lol)
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I make furniture. MDF is garbage for anything that will be touched or seen or have the remotest chance of contact with water. Manufacturers use it because it is highly consistent, machinable, cheap, and dimensionally stable. It makes really good speaker boxes. That is all.actionjackson posted:I have no idea about wood stuff that isn't furniture, but plenty of high end furniture uses MDF. however they do it with a really nice, thick veneering. Dolphin has issued a correction as of 15:45 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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are you talking about just MDF, or veneered MDF? there's a furniture company based here called room and board, definitely higher end and modern stuff, and pretty much all the small furniture makers they work with do veneered MDF. I've never heard of any issues.
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actionjackson posted:are you talking about just MDF, or veneered MDF? there's a furniture company based here called room and board, definitely higher end and modern stuff, and pretty much all the small furniture makers they work with do veneered MDF. I've never heard of any issues.
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Dolphin posted:MDF is fairly weak structurally and will eventually give way to the elements no matter how you treat it. It breaks down under heat and moisture, and even carefully protected can only be reliably expected to last 10-15 years which is a problem for a material that can't really be recycled. that's why I asked about veneering. I certainly wouldn't want real wood because of the stability issues.
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You wouldn't want the material humans have been engineering furniture out of for thousands and thousands of years, that can last several lifetimes, is sustainable and easily disposable, non-toxic, hard, durable, water resistant, and easy to repair?
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lol that's quite a loaded question. I'm not going to use solid wood on a major furniture piece in a part of the country that has enormous humidity swings
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I mean do what you want but that furniture is all going to be in a landfill within 20 years.
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I can understand how there is a concern about wood cracking over time from swelling/shrinking, but is that really something that wood workers haven't considered in their designs? Also staining/sanding/finishing/veneer's etc don't mitigate those problems? Also cars started being the worst when they stopped making them out of wood.
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Dolphin posted:I mean do what you want but that furniture is all going to be in a landfill within 20 years. I have wood cabinets (maple), they came with the place which was built in 2005, and most of the doors and drawers have developed warpage over time. So they don't close evenly, or are extremely loud when they close. Which is not surprising, because it's wood, and I live in an area that sees temps everywhere from -30 to 110.
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Dolphin posted:I make furniture. MDF is garbage for anything that will be touched or seen or have the remotest chance of contact with water. Manufacturers use it because it is highly consistent, machinable, cheap, and dimensionally stable. It makes really good speaker boxes. That is all. I basically agree with this. Plywood retains the strength of the wood grain and makes it better by layering it perpendicularly. MDF is just pressed & glued wood pulp. Tbf I don’t know poo poo about fancy furniture but as a wood material MDF is low grade. Still, that’s the way the wind is blowing these days so whatever. So long as you like your furniture that’s the important part  Plus I get the impression that the expensive part of high end furniture is generally the design/exclusivity and maybe even some kinda Veblen good effect
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as i was dropping my kid off at daycare today, taking him out of the elaborate and expensive safety seat in my car, i found myself thinking for the millionth time how insane it is that we deform our lives completely around cars, which despite all our efforts are STILL insanely deadly for children, rather than try to reduce our need for them. bonkers. sick society.
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before cars if your toddler ran out of the house you'd be like "oh crap he might fall and hurt himself" now you're like "oh no timmy might get ground up into mince meat"
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lobster shirt posted:as i was dropping my kid off at daycare today, taking him out of the elaborate and expensive safety seat in my car, i found myself thinking for the millionth time how insane it is that we deform our lives completely around cars, which despite all our efforts are STILL insanely deadly for children, rather than try to reduce our need for them. bonkers. sick society. it fuckin owns that everyone drives their kids to/from school now bc it's too dangerous not to due to all the goddamn cars
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lobster shirt posted:as i was dropping my kid off at daycare today, taking him out of the elaborate and expensive safety seat in my car, i found myself thinking for the millionth time how insane it is that we deform our lives completely around cars, which despite all our efforts are STILL insanely deadly for children, rather than try to reduce our need for them. bonkers. sick society. maybe you just need the extra large suv with bull bars.
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train good. car bad. https://twitter.com/thegallowboob/status/1453885187863965699?s=20
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ArmZ posted:train good. car bad. today: corn on the tracks tomorrow: deer heads on the tracks
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had to drive my car. i managed to get everything i needed at one of those god awful strip malls, so I parked in the middle so I could easily walk to everything. saw someone pull out on one side of the strip mall, drive over to the other side of the strip mall, and park again
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20 years from now plywood furniture can be redeemed for 10 skulls, MDF only 5 skulls. a car can be traded for your execution
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Did he have 50 greyhounds with him? I heard that excuses loving car culture
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I don't understand people who spend 10 minutes hunting for a parking spot as close to the doors as possible instead of just finding an open spot and walking for 20 seconds longer
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SKULL.GIF posted:I don't understand people who spend 10 minutes hunting for a parking spot as close to the doors as possible instead of just finding an open spot and walking for 20 seconds longer
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SKULL.GIF posted:I don't understand people who spend 10 minutes hunting for a parking spot as close to the doors as possible instead of just finding an open spot and walking for 20 seconds longer then you don't understand America 
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expecting people to walk from the far end of the parking lot is fatphobic and ableist
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actionjackson posted:had to drive my car. i managed to get everything i needed at one of those god awful strip malls, so I parked in the middle so I could easily walk to everything. saw someone pull out on one side of the strip mall, drive over to the other side of the strip mall, and park again 
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we could just segregate the walkers and bikers from the car and suv folk and let natural selection take its place
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i dated someone just after high school, who insisted on driving up and down the same two rows of parking waiting for a close spot to open up. in retrospect this was a missed red flag
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for me, not getting creamed by giant fuckoff suvs blasting up the parking lot is a bit of a consideration, so i do try to stay close to the rest of the pack. like a baby zebra.
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sat on my keys! posted:it fuckin owns that everyone drives their kids to/from school now bc it's too dangerous not to due to all the goddamn cars lol we have a big front yard and my wife doesn't want our kid to play in it ever because what if he runs into the street and gets murdered by a driver. which, fair, but why is this situation allowed to persist!!! front yard is nothing but a time suck, the kid can't play there so it just exists for me to mow. bad society. and neighborhood deed restrictions do not allow fences for front yards lol
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Mr. Sharps posted::)
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SKULL.GIF posted:I don't understand people who spend 10 minutes hunting for a parking spot as close to the doors as possible instead of just finding an open spot and walking for 20 seconds longer
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and also yes it's hilariously stupid. whenever i go to costco or something im taking the very first noteble open spot i see instead of like going into the gaping maws of giant suv death. spending even longer than that trying to find that one open spot closer is just really dumb. also cars are dumb. death to cars.
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