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I’m sure he can find someone to indulge that for him in his private life, he doesn’t have to do it on the field.
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Shinjobi posted:I for one love that OBJ became this glorified super WR all because he posterized the Dallas Cowboys defense it wasn't just because of a catch lol he was really really good on his first years and broke the record for "fastest WR to reach x reception or yards" like three times IIRC
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OBJ was legitimately incredible from his rookie year in 2014 until he shattered his ankle in early 2017 (in the same game where Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall (lol) also got hurt and the season was basically over in a flash). Fun fact about that is his ankle was first injured in the preseason of 2017 thanks to a dirty tackle by a Browns end of roster DB. Then he looked good in his return 2018 and even put up 1000+ yards, but the team was so awful that he was mostly known for his weird ESPN interview and basically forcing his way out. Anyway now it’s 3.5 years later and he clearly still has talent, the question will always be fit. I think he can succeed wherever he goes, but he can just as easily flame out again. That’s my Odell take thanks for reading
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Nov 11, 2021 14:00
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What are his stats pre/post Boatgate.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are his stats pre/post Boatgate. That was prior to the 2016 Wild Card game, so everything from 2017 and after in this post: RASHIBA WALLACE posted:OBJ was legitimately incredible from his rookie year in 2014 until he shattered his ankle in early 2017 (in the same game where Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall (lol) also got hurt and the season was basically over in a flash). Fun fact about that is his ankle was first injured in the preseason of 2017 thanks to a dirty tackle by a Browns end of roster DB. Then he looked good in his return 2018 and even put up 1000+ yards, but the team was so awful that he was mostly known for his weird ESPN interview and basically forcing his way out. To go a bit further on the Giants in general, their offensive line was a massive problem then. They were still trying to force Ereck Flowers to be a left tackle with little support and he clearly wasn’t suited to that, while noted TFF favorites like Marshall Newhouse, Bobby Hart, the aging husk of John Jerry, and others got significant snaps on the line in those years. They couldn’t run block at all, and their pass blocking was barely any better, so seemingly all the Giants did was run quick slants and similar short passes because Eli was often under pressure on even those plays. Odell could make those quick passes into something special, but it wasn’t really sustainable and the front office did little to help. The 2014 and 2015 teams had good passing numbers (They’re two of Eli’s best seasons) but the line got worse and worse, and their defense was terrible those years. In 2016, the team was carried by the defense playing out of its mind and a bunch of free agents, but after that, it all fell apart. Ben McAdoo’s play calling once he became head coach wasn’t good, overly relying on 11 personnel and just terribly designed running plays with a bad offensive line, and got worse in 2017 when the defense wasn’t among the best in the league. As mentioned, OBJ was never healthy that season, but came back in 2018 and looked mostly okay before being traded the following offseason.
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Nov 11, 2021 14:44
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Nov 11, 2021 15:04
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Kind of figured Darnold was solidifying his future as a high end backup this season, but woof. He's cratering towards sub-UDFA rookie. https://twitter.com/CTowersCBS/status/1458309780007706624?s=20
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Nov 11, 2021 15:17
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He made 30 million dollars to "play football" and now gets to go sell insurance at his alma mater or whatever. Maybe Sam is smarter than all of us.
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Nov 11, 2021 15:18
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Nov 11, 2021 15:19
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Alaois posted:don't draft usc or ohio state qbs USC at least had Carson Palmer within our lifetimes and, from a pure comedy stand point, Mark Sanchez. Ohio State on the other hand 
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Nov 11, 2021 15:23
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No Butt Stuff posted:He made 30 million dollars to "play football" and now gets to go sell insurance at his alma mater or whatever. Matt Flynn is the all-time winner of the low effort QB career. He ended up making $59K per pass attempt over a 9 years in the league for a total haul over $21M.
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Nov 11, 2021 15:25
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man it feels like yesterday when the Seahawks got their QB of the future in Matt Flynn but drafted another QB just in case...
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fsif posted:Kind of figured Darnold was solidifying his future as a high end backup this season, but woof. He's cratering towards sub-UDFA rookie. I think GM's are broke brained enough that he will still get a cushy backup job somewhere.
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:itshappening: https://twitter.com/jonmalexander/status/1458811702510817284
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Nov 11, 2021 16:04
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Next they’ll try to coax Ted Ginn out of retirement as well.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:05
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fartknocker posted:USC at least had Carson Palmer within our lifetimes and, from a pure comedy stand point, Mark Sanchez. Fields is Ohio State and seems to be trending towards good
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Nov 11, 2021 16:08
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Nov 11, 2021 16:09
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If I were Cam I'd jump on this opportunity immediately.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:12
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:If I were Cam I'd jump on this opportunity immediately. This might be the worst offensive line he's played behind though, and that says a lot. I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to get involved with that again. Selfishly, of course, I want him to come home.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:15
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RumbleFish posted:This might be the worst offensive line he's played behind though, and that says a lot. I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to get involved with that again. I dunno. Feel like the whole country is watching and will second guess him if he doesn't pounce.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:17
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Qwijib0 posted:Matt Flynn is the all-time winner of the low effort QB career. He ended up making $59K per pass attempt over a 9 years in the league for a total haul over $21M. And he won both collegiate national championships AND a Super Bowl. The life.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:18
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I mean if Drew decided to come back for the last 8 games I'd jump too, so go for it Cam.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:19
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i wasnt watching football at the time but what happened to cause Cam to leave in the first place
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I dunno. Feel like the whole country is watching and will second guess him if he doesn't pounce.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:21
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Relentlessboredomm posted:i wasnt watching football at the time but what happened to cause Cam to leave in the first place Injuries made him very bad. It's actually depressing, even as an nfc south rival, to see how much of a shell he is of his former self.
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i really think that if the panthers could have drafted Sewell, or maybe taken Slater (which obviously looks worse since he's balling out and Horn got injured, though he looks like a stud), and solidified the interior of the line, and gotten a little luckier with injuries, he could have been league average. I really thought this was a wildcard team with the way the defense was playing and he was able to manage the offense. And really, before the eagles game, he only had one bad quarter against the cowboys. He was stepping up in the pocket, he looked comfortable, he was throwing good balls, the whole nine. Once CMC went down and defenses started heavy blitzing and sitting on the routes, he has just fallen apart. And to make matters worse, theyve had new oline injuries every single week, and the players they're trotting out there right now are not starter caliber. Brady isn't a competent enough playcaller to work around it, and even if he was they might not have the linemen to execute anything. Whatever it is, Sam is done. I know every AFC East fan was licking their chops waiting for him to regress, but he looks like a completely different player now than he did the first month of the season. He looks worse than clausen. I don't mind the money; it's not real in the NFL and Tepper is a poo poo zillionaire. I'm also not even that upset about the cap space. The panthers won't be stopped from doing anything in 2022 by their cap number, and that's before the eventual shuffling of various contracts and extensions. The 2nd round pick hurts. But that coupled with the extension sort of show the panthers were really convinced they could fix him. If he turned out to be a Tannehill like reclamation, it looks good. Obviously it looks terrible now. I see the argument about not picking up the option then just tagging him if you have to, but that money is about the same. Obviously if he played well this year he'd probably be getting a new contract regardless. the panthers organization under tepper has put a major emphasis on mental health and wellbeing. They have multiple in house psychiatric and psychologist. Looking back now it sorta seems like they were trying to boost him up. They really kept him on a short leash in the preseason, they extended his contract, they might have over traded for him. They didn't add a veteran backup so he never had any reason to look over his shoulder. On one had it's admirable that they care about that kind of thing, but on the other that's not the type of player you need to be investing in, especially at the QB position, especially when the offensive line is more a philosophical concept than actual players. i am overall happy with rhule and fitterer. They've built a very good, young defense in short order. Phil snow seems to be acclimating well to the NFL, and has shown marked improvement in his second year. I really like what Fitterer has done with the defense, and how he has addressed the secondary. I think the Panthers understand what the NFL is now and have positioned themselves well in a relatively short time period. However, they really swung and missed on the offense this year. They've overemphasized the weapons and have ignored the offensive line. Best case scenario, the offensive lien is on the lower end of average this year. It doesn't matter how good the WR or RB are if there's no one to block. And even though Sam was their third choice, and they did everything they could to avoid getting to that, they mishandled it. I do think Brady is gone though. He hasn't shown me anything at all. And even this year, like last year, he was struggling in the end zone. They just covered it up this year with a bunch of Darnold keepers, and that's eventually what's gotten him hurt....if we believe that. The season is over for the Panthers and it's a shame. CMC looks like he's damaged goods, and you're losing a cheap year of a dominant defense. Looking forward, I really think their best move is throwing everything at the offensive line and trying to get a veteran, even if it's just someone that can run the offense for a year while they try to find an answer at QB. I would not be surprised to see them trade some big names from the offense, like CMC or Moore. Panthers have good young WR/RBs who are cheap, and they need picks. https://twitter.com/jonmalexander/status/1458811702510817284?s=20 Cam deserves so much better than dying behind this line. I do not want this. Relentlessboredomm posted:i wasnt watching football at the time but what happened to cause Cam to leave in the first place Cam had some injuries that neither Rivera nor he dealt with appropriately. New regime came in and Cam had not been healthy in 2 seasons. They wanted a fresh start, and Hurney went out and got Bridgewater. Cam is almost certainly washed at this point.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:If I were Cam I'd jump on this opportunity immediately. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I dunno. Feel like the whole country is watching and will second guess him if he doesn't pounce. Just letting you know I got the joke even if no one else did
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this is loving shameful https://twitter.com/josephperson/status/1458820052321542146?s=20 he cannot have success here. The pieces aren't in place to protect him. You're trotting him out there to put fans in the seats.
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Nov 11, 2021 16:38
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Diva Cupcake posted:He's had no other prospective offers this year as far as I'm aware so if he passes, he's basically in the retirement tier scrapheap. Its a SB joke OP
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Yeah, the Patriots were just abusing the Panthers oline, they lost their center on the first play... it'll be ugly for Cam. That said, Darnold kept escaping the pressure and throwing the most garbage rear end passes imaginable, so maybe Cam can just chug for 4 yards instead on those plays and that'd be a monumental upgrade.
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HappyHippo posted:Just letting you know I got the joke even if no one else did 
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Cam deserves better. But anything is better than Darnold at this point
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Kalli posted:Yeah, the Patriots were just abusing the Panthers oline, they lost their center on the first play... it'll be ugly for Cam. If recent history is any indication, he'll be able to scramble and either get caught by a LB or throw it into the turf in front of CMC's feet
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bows1 posted:Its a SB joke OP
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Tim Whatley posted:But anything is better than Darnold at this point There’s room for decline!
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I'd be floored if $cam didn't immediately take the first offer from carolina. His ridiculous antivaxx attitude, playing like absolute poo poo ever since leaving, and getting flushed down the toilet in preseason for a rookie is exactly why he has gotten absolutely nothing until now. He has no other option to get back to the nfl until begging to be a training camp body for someone next year.
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Asproigerosis posted:I'd be floored if $cam didn't immediately take the first offer from carolina. His ridiculous antivaxx attitude, playing like absolute poo poo ever since leaving, and getting flushed down the toilet in preseason for a rookie is exactly why he has gotten absolutely nothing until now. He has no other option to get back to the nfl until begging to be a training camp body for someone next year. $cam is a bit harsh he was an honorable opponent who recognized the mighty hooves coming down upon him and yielded at the appropriate time. True nobility.
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