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i finished the show i wish i hadn't because god drat that was some C-tier poo poo
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:i finished the show
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Nov 13, 2021 11:25
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Even before starting the latest episode i realized, that i was baffled that i apparently already had watched 8 episodes. How? It seems like almost nothing of consequence happened overall. At least nothing, that could not have been told and made better by doing it in 1-2 episodes max. Episode thoughts Noooooooo they killed the huntress! And with her holy bow at that. Those bastards! I guess i finally clicked why she was my favourite: She seemed to be the only semi-relevant person with an actual agenda and feelings. A horrible agenda and destructive feelings, but at least understandable. All the other characters are so aloof and detached that i have no choice but to root against them. They had a slight chance to create an interesting arc with the clone-clone Cleon, but blew it immediately back to status quo. Gaaah. I will finish this season and maybe give Ep 1 of season 2 a chance but i'm absolutely convinced, that some writers at SyFy could churn out 100 episodes of way more entertaining space pew-pew with the money they spent for one episode of this convoluted crap.
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Nov 13, 2021 11:28
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Lol now even the Cleon story is poo poo It was sci-fi Now it’s Sci-Fi
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Nov 13, 2021 11:29
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Honestly, Hari just coming out of the box at the end, I'm Jerry Seinfeld just getting out of the theatre right there, just give me a new season of For All Mankind, there is no way of redeeming this nonsense.
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Nov 13, 2021 12:29
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Coxswain Balls posted:Started watching this show and wanted to see if anyone said anything about this because holy crap was that fight awful. I didn't get nauseous but I had to grab a click counter to see how bad it was. The cuts were happening so fast that I definitely missed a bunch but it was almost a hundred cuts for that one fight scene. My problem with the action is no one gives a gently caress. Ir's just an inconvenient task to perform before you move on to the next scene. The protagonist I'm supposed to relate to isn't nervous, apprehensive or scared before or shocked or frazzled afterwards. Just casually shoots 10 people and walks away. Is she a robot? She's not veteran special forces - she's basically the game warden in a rural village. I'm supposed to like this person?
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Nov 13, 2021 12:30
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:i finished the show At least the similar train wreck Raised by Wolves gave me a few laughs in later episodes from things like Space Snake Rebirth and the dark souls character design. This show is like a different level of frustration like how all the big "reveals / plot twists" in the last episode were both unsatisfying and cringe-worthy.
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Nov 13, 2021 12:41
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DaveKap posted:I have plenty to say about this episode but I think the most important thing is that when the Huntress got shot through the neck and fell over, I said out loud to my computer monitor "please stay dead so the stupid can be dead with you." Huntress clones will be at the center of every Seldon Crisis going forward 
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Nov 13, 2021 13:46
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This comment might be really dumb, so I was holding off on this, but it seemed like her square haircut was designed to evoke a military buzz cut
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Nov 13, 2021 13:49
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And they say they'd like to do eight seasons. That'd be a fun ride.
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Nov 13, 2021 14:06
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Combat Pretzel posted:And they say they'd like to do eight seasons. That'd be a fun ride. I'd happily watch 8 season of this. Its great content for posting about
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Nov 13, 2021 14:42
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Rutibex posted:I'd happily watch 8 season of this. Its great content for posting about Like the TV watching version of doing the Spiral religious walk / torture from the previous episode.
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Nov 13, 2021 15:47
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I feel like the nanites would've healed other cleon's slit throatPowered Descent posted:Dawn's-eye view of the mural: I like how the stuff that would theoretically be behind the red birds is revealed magically, also on the right the red in the cape is visible in the first pic 
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Nov 13, 2021 18:28
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Steve Yun posted:Lol now even the Cleon story is poo poo 4000 Dollar Suit posted:I feel like the nanites would've healed other cleon's slit throat I wasn't bothered by this so much. If you live in a world where people can have healing nanobots, surely you'd come up with a counter to that. I could imagine Empire's secret police having daggers that could project a nanobot suppression field or something.
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Nov 13, 2021 18:51
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That feels like something written by a colorblind person but executed by non-colorblind people who have no idea what it's like "if something has colors it's literally invisible to you, is that it? OK got it"
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Nov 13, 2021 20:44
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DaveKap posted:Don't worry, you aren't done; there's another episode left! dammit DAMMIT
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Nov 13, 2021 20:48
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Data Graham posted:That feels like something written by a colorblind person but executed by non-colorblind people who have no idea what it's like Even looking at the images posted, I still can't see what Dawn was freaked out by.
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Nov 13, 2021 20:53
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Data Graham posted:That feels like something written by a colorblind person but executed by non-colorblind people who have no idea what it's like  The painting is made of weird nano super-paint. It actually was two different paintings and it just changes when it detects Dawn putting on space-glasses. Dusk doesn't know how to paint something so it would have that effect on a colour blind person either so he just cheated.
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Nov 13, 2021 20:53
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twistedmentat posted:Even looking at the images posted, I still can't see what Dawn was freaked out by. he could originally see only three of the birds Dusk painted, then he put on the magic thingies and could see all six
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Nov 13, 2021 20:55
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twistedmentat posted:Even looking at the images posted, I still can't see what Dawn was freaked out by. He was freaked out by the evidence that Dusk knows that he shot more birds than he claimed because he’s colorblind and could see the birds based on movement rather than color (which he tried to hide but that dude found the ones he hid in the bushes).
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Nov 13, 2021 20:56
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i still dont understand why the botanist girl tried to kill Dawn if the goal was always to tie him onto a chair and suck out his nanobots
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Nov 13, 2021 21:01
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:i still dont understand why the botanist girl tried to kill Dawn if the goal was always to tie him onto a chair and suck out his nanobots Alternate answer: You can still draw nanobots out of a dead body. True answer: Show bad. Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Now it’s Sci-Fi SyFy™ DaveKap fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Nov 13, 2021 21:03
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It’s not a very well written television show, op
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Nov 13, 2021 21:04
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The laser rifle battles look like they’re out of a low budget Stargate spinoff The costumes on the show were good until they had to mass produce rubber mold Anachreon battle suits
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Nov 13, 2021 22:41
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Centrist Committee posted:It’s not a very well written television show, op I don’t care! I’m going to tell everyone how much I don’t care! That’s how much I don’t care!
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Nov 13, 2021 23:20
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I haven't post about this episode yet. They had to use a stupid "baby's first Total Recall plot twist" to ruin that Trantor plotline. All they had to do was run the course of deviant clone concept, just let the actors do their things. Even the Brother Dawn actor is competent enough to pull off the emotion. Just give me a normal character I can root for god drat it. We are getting to the point that its more entertaining to read the mad comments on this thread than watch the actual show content. Maybe for next week I will skip the show and go straight to the angry comments. They have managed to go 9 episodes without ruining the Lee Pace story, I got a feeling the showrunner is going to outdo himself next week. stephenthinkpad fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 00:40
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I was kinda hoping that one consequence of the storyline being sincere without the twist would be that it'd lead to seeing more of Trantor outside the palace than just one episode, like there'd be a subsequent Trantor-wide search, but nope, back to the palace next episode
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Nov 14, 2021 00:52
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I hate when I pause a TV show, say something stupid like "That door opened up, but Salvor is going to sit there doing nothing until the Anacreons show up and try to stop her" and then it turns out I'm right. Why is the writing so bad in this show? You'd think with books to base the show off of they could find a way to make it good like The Expanse.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:06
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Holy poo poo, i usually come to these threads to read the hot takes with a grain of salt. But uh yeah, writing bad y'all.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:09
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Cojawfee posted:You'd think with books to base the show off of they could find a way to make it good like The Expanse. "But the books aren't full of typical basic-bitch TV tropes. Its a space book with no space battles for christ sake. We got to spice it up a bit or no one will like the show!" ~TV Executive
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Nov 14, 2021 01:13
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Rutibex posted:"But the books aren't full of typical basic-bitch TV tropes. Its a space book with no space battles for christ sake. We got to spice it up a bit or no one will like the show!" The thing is, they could have had space battles and still stuck to book accuracy. The Four Kingdoms near Terminus seceded violently from the Empire, and regularly fought with each other during the early period. A plot focused on Anachreon's struggles for independence and domination would have slotted in nicely between the Seldon intro and Hardin's rise, and it would have made Hardin's force-without-violence approach stand out that much more against the usual fighting.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:29
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Data Graham posted:He was freaked out by the evidence that Dusk knows that he shot more birds than he claimed because he’s colorblind and could see the birds based on movement rather than color (which he tried to hide but that dude found the ones he hid in the bushes). Oh! Okay, that makes sense, I thought he saw that Dusk had painted "run bitch run!" on the wall and I was missing it somehow.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:59
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Who the hell is editing this show? The last Mexican stand off scene is terrible. One second the actress has her hands up, the next they're down, then they are staring to the right, then they are staring to the left. This poo poo is late night SyFy levels bad.
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Nov 14, 2021 02:14
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Rutibex posted:"But the books aren't full of typical basic-bitch TV tropes. Its a space book with no space battles for christ sake. We got to spice it up a bit or no one will like the show!" The Expanse TV was actually better than the books since the writers got a chance to improve weak aspects of the books and were involved in the series since the launch season. This series pretty much ignored the concepts and themes that made The Foundation book series a compelling read.
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Nov 14, 2021 02:18
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etalian posted:The Expanse TV was actually better than the books since the writers got a chance to improve weak aspects of the books and were involved in the series since the launch season. Yeah I think they hosed up with the format. Each crisis should have been two episodes long, like a two-parter twilight zone or black mirror episode. It needs to feel like a series of self contained movies. The whole thing should have been planed for two seasons not eight. Instead they are trying to make a typical long-form TV show with persistent characters and it ruins the feel.
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Nov 14, 2021 02:34
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I don't think people even need space battles to be entertained. The Expanse has done pretty well without constant space battles, I don't even remember BSG having battles or fights every episode. When I think of the best parts of GoT it was usually a couple of characters sitting around a table having conversations about Serious Things. Remember Varys and Littlefinger having a chat in front of the throne and it was all about what they were saying and what they implying? That was the good poo poo. The show runners here obviously think the audience are idiots. That's the only reason I can think of why they would feel the need to remind us of the events with the space elevator falling even though it happened just at the start of the season. Or having a voiceover reminding us of the Gardener's plan for Dawn to escape- just minutes after she'd already explained it.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Or having a voiceover reminding us of the Gardener's plan for Dawn to escape- just minutes after she'd already explained it. Last episode: Robot Lady: I had a vision. I'm glad you did too, I can't think of anything worse than going there and not having one because it means you don't have a soul. Day flashes back to being in the cave, where he is not having a vision Robot Lady (voiceover): I can't think of anything worse than going there and not having one because it means you don't have a soul
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Nov 14, 2021 02:47
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Jerusalem posted:Last episode: I think they're targeting the audience who watched Dunc and complained that they never tell you what Spice is. Zazz Razzamatazz posted:When I think of the best parts of GoT it was usually a couple of characters sitting around a table having conversations about Serious Things. Remember Varys and Littlefinger having a chat in front of the throne and it was all about what they were saying and what they implying? That was the good poo poo. Agreed, it's why I'm less than excited for House of the Dragon cuz I suspect it's gonna be all dragons and battles all the time like the last few seasons of GoT.
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Nov 14, 2021 03:04
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twistedmentat posted:Oh! Okay, that makes sense, I thought he saw that Dusk had painted "run bitch run!" on the wall and I was missing it somehow. I mean, basically he was  he was taunting him saying “I know what you’ve been trying to hide”. Which is an interesting question, why would he do that? Just to be a cruel dickhead before killing him and replacing him with a Dean clone? Why paint their failure into the mural? They even made a big deal out of “why would we ever want to immortalize your existence”
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DaveKap posted:It was a stun gun, not an actual gun. The best part is that all of this followed several beats where she had every opportunity to just drug him or otherwise incapacitate him, but instead she let him wander around her house waiting for the dramatic reveal. I laughed a lot at this scene because not only is it lovely, cliched writing, but it's the wrong loving cliche. It's the twist where someone wants revenge and they want the person to know who's about to kill them, except... she doesn't want revenge, and she pities him, and she's not particularly happy about killing him? But anyway, let me betray you in the most shocking and inept way possible before strapping you to this chair to suck out your nanobots. Also, let me release you from this chair before I kill you, instead of just sucking out your nanobots and shooting you in the back of the head. edit- it's Bond villain writing except the villain keeps inexplicably releasing Bond
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